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Matthew Schroeder said:I mean, yeah. But that can't be applied to a Vs Profile as that's quite clearly a NLF that doesn't work under how Vs. Threads are set, in neutral universes and whatnot.
WeeklyBattles said:WoG means nothing if it contradicts feats. Death of the author is very commonplace here.
As someone who's read the series recently, I think this seems like the most reasonable line of thinking regarding this ability.Monarch Laciel said:Calling it an NLF is also not a reason not to add the ability to the profiles when it's clearly something. Assume it won't work against anyone higher than 3-D or even 4-D depending on where the Tier 2 stuff goes, like all non-physical hax, and call it passive plot/fate manipulation. There, done
DexWald said:I kind of disagree with something from Part 4; more precisely with Kumagawa being able to spawn screws inside of people.
Even without pseudo time erase he is able move too fast for a human eye (his speed is maximum comparable with Medaka). With Jakugou he just threw screw at her without lookng at her with too fast enough speed (most likely via All-fiction) for her to notice that. She is a normal human after all even with her superability to manipulate the air.
It isn't plot manipulation. Zenkichis Devil Style is the ability that is created to counter it, which is how he won the elections against Medaka.Monarch Laciel said:I actually agree with The Hero being a passive plot manipulation making things work out in the character's favour.
^This.Antvasima said:Well, I personally think that the quadrillions of skills were intended to be taken literally, but are obviously impossible to prove, as it is impossible to portray them all.
The theory of narrative causality/the protagonist always wins was also treated as a very literal concept within Medaka Box.
I agree about that the exact tiers are uncertain, but let's not treat the series unfairly either.
Did you call me? OvOKepekley23 said:That's an ALF (All-Limits Fallacy)
What do we need for that? I can find scans of Ajimu saying that because she is a minor character she cannot beat someone like medaka (main character) even if she used all of her abilities.Antvasima said:So is anybody willing to provide scans that prove that it is plot manipulation, rather than probability manipulation?