Madara Uchiha VS Ji Ning

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

It affects the soul as well so it’s layered since it worked on the DK, SD and Merlin who resist mind hax

Prove it affects the soul, and also Merlin doesn't resistance only DK and SD, and their resistance are equal so they don't really have layers

 

[speedster352]

Prove it affects the soul, and also Merlin doesn't resistance only DK and SD, and their resistance are equal so they don't really have layers

It’s on their respective profiles please take a look. Like I said madara uses limbo and seals Ji into the gedo statue or chibaku tensei or paralyzes home with black receivers from a safe range.

 

[XDragnoir]

He has black recover rods and etc to pin JI down and seal him. His susano can fling ji away with air lashes or other ranged attacks since he out ranges Ji badly

Ning would block all the black rods or air slashes tho.

It was because of AP and LS Madara has the LS advantage so chibaku tensei will work Madara knows other sealing jutsu. He can just make a clone go and seal Ji while he is being held down by limbo.

Why would he use any of them? He doesn't what Ning can or can't do at all, i doubt he even used any of his sealing techniques in this key.

 

[speedster352]

Ning would block all the black rods or air slashes tho.


Why would he use any of them? He doesn't what Ning can or can't do at all, i doubt he even used any of his sealing techniques in this key.

The limbo clones will hold him down they have the LS advantage. The black rods will paralyze ji then sealing with gedo statue or chibaku tensei

 

[XDragnoir]

The limbo clones will hold him down they have the LS advantage. The black rods will paralyze ji then sealing with gedo statue or chibaku tensei

Ning doesn't need his body to block tho, he has telekinesis and can summon the elements with a thought, holding his arms does absolutely nothing to stop his defenses.

 

[Planck69]

Is anyone other than speedster going to bother defending Madara? Because really, we're getting nowhere with him.

Voting for Ji Ning btw.

 

[XDragnoir]

Is anyone other than speedster going to bother defending Madara? Because really, we're getting nowhere with him.

Voting for Ji Ning btw.

LMAO, i am having fun, this fight will not be added anyway cause i doubt Madara will get a wincon.

For real, Speedster is peak entertainment.

 

[speedster352]

Ning doesn't need his body to block tho, he has telekinesis and can summon the elements with a thought, holding his arms does absolutely nothing to stop his defenses.

Susano will block it then JI gets sealed by Gedo statue or chibaku Tensei

Is anyone other than speedster going to bother defending Madara? Because really, we're getting nowhere with him.

Voting for Ji Ning btw.

You mean by ignoring my arguments typical. If you want go get the naruto supporters

 

[Planck69]

Susano will block it then JI gets sealed by Gedo statue or chibaku Tensei

You mean by ignoring my arguments typical. If you want go get the naruto supporters

The fact that you claim this but the literal sentence above that is a reiterated argument that's been addressed to death is transcendent comedy.

But yeah, I'll wait for any Naruto supporters.

 

[speedster352]

The fact that you claim this but the literal sentence above that is a reiterated argument that's been addressed to death is transcendent comedy.

But yeah, I'll wait for any Naruto supporters.

It was not addressed just saying that he doesn't use it when there are manga scans that he uses limbo and seals with the Gedo statue. Anyway Madara fra

 

[Planck69]

LMAO, i am having fun, this fight will not be added anyway cause i doubt Madara will get an incon.

For real, Speedster is peak entertainment.

OK, you were right. This is too good.

 

[Deceived3596]

Madara FRA

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I was asked to clarify Madara's moveset. To be clear, I'm not here to vote or argue, as I'm personally very burned out from VS Threads. However, I'll answer any questions regarding Madara and help out where I can.

Uhhh, so this looks to be Revived Sage Madara with the Rinnegan, right?
His in character moveset is primarily comprised of Chakra-Based Absorption that allows him to absorb any techniques comprised of chakra (or chakra like energies for the purpose of vs matches, I suppose), the Susano'o (his Mangekyō Sharingan key will do a good job of explaining what the Susano'o does), the Gedo Statue which allows him to use chains that power null, bind and weaken those it grabs, as well as seal others within it, Limbo which produces invisible and intangible identical clones which can escape the danger sense of Naruto (however they return to Madara after an unspecified timeframe for a very brief recharge period), and Telekinesis as seen in here and in here.
Of course, he also has a few passive abilities as well, like Sage Mode's enhanced senses, sensory capabilities, and danger sense, his regeneration, and the Rinnegan's Enhanced Senses.
Naturally, he also has the standard Shinobi shenanigans you'll find in his first key.

So yeah, this is pretty much everything he used in this particular key. It should be noted, however, that Madara was using the best possible moves in order to capture the Bijū quickly and efficiently. This does not mean that he won't use his other abilities in the previous keys if the need arises. He's a very intelligent fighter, so if he finds that some of the aforementioned moves are ineffective, he'll immediately change strategies.

Anyway, I hope that helped.

 

[speedster352]

I was asked to clarify Madara's moveset. To be clear, I'm not here to vote or argue, as I'm personally very burned out from VS Threads. However, I'll answer any questions regarding Madara and help out where I can.

Uhhh, so this looks to be Revived Sage Madara with the Rinnegan, right?
His in character moveset is primarily comprised of Chakra-Based Absorption that allows him to absorb any techniques comprised of chakra (or chakra like energies for the purpose of vs matches, I suppose), the Susano'o (his Mangekyō Sharingan key will do a good job of explaining what the Susano'o does), the Gedo Statue which allows him to use chains that power null, bind and weaken those it grabs, as well as seal others within it, Limbo which produces invisible and intangible identical clones which can escape the danger sense of Naruto (however they return to Madara after an unspecified timeframe for a very brief recharge period), and Telekinesis as seen in here and in here.
Of course, he also has a few passive abilities as well, like Sage Mode's enhanced senses, sensory capabilities, and danger sense, his regeneration, and the Rinnegan's Enhanced Senses.
Naturally, he also has the standard Shinobi shenanigans you'll find in his first key.

So yeah, this is pretty much everything he used in this particular key. It should be noted, however, that Madara was using the best possible moves in order to capture the Bijū quickly and efficiently. This does not mean that he won't use his other abilities in the previous keys if the need arises. He's a very intelligent fighter, so if he finds that some of the aforementioned moves are ineffective, he'll immediately change strategies.

Anyway, I hope that helped.

Exactly Madara will use limbo to restrian JI and seal JI with gedo statue or chibaku tensei

 

[Planck69]

I was asked to clarify Madara's moveset. To be clear, I'm not here to vote or argue, as I'm personally very burned out from VS Threads. However, I'll answer any questions regarding Madara and help out where I can.

Uhhh, so this looks to be Revived Sage Madara with the Rinnegan, right?
His in character moveset is primarily comprised of Chakra-Based Absorption that allows him to absorb any techniques comprised of chakra (or chakra like energies for the purpose of vs matches, I suppose), the Susano'o (his Mangekyō Sharingan key will do a good job of explaining what the Susano'o does), the Gedo Statue which allows him to use chains that power null, bind and weaken those it grabs, as well as seal others within it, Limbo which produces invisible and intangible identical clones which can escape the danger sense of Naruto (however they return to Madara after an unspecified timeframe for a very brief recharge period), and Telekinesis as seen in here and in here.
Of course, he also has a few passive abilities as well, like Sage Mode's enhanced senses, sensory capabilities, and danger sense, his regeneration, and the Rinnegan's Enhanced Senses.
Naturally, he also has the standard Shinobi shenanigans you'll find in his first key.

So yeah, this is pretty much everything he used in this particular key. It should be noted, however, that Madara was using the best possible moves in order to capture the Bijū quickly and efficiently. This does not mean that he won't use his other abilities in the previous keys if the need arises. He's a very intelligent fighter, so if he finds that some of the aforementioned moves are ineffective, he'll immediately change strategies.

Anyway, I hope that helped.

It did quite a bit. I hope you don't mind a few more questions;

1. What exactly qualifies as a chakra-like energy for the purposes of energy equalization? Ning uses elemental ki, which he absorbs from the environment and refines into himself but isn't actually naturally occurring in living creatures and can be refined into a liquid for consumption or trade, as well as divine power, which is unique to Fiendgods and is harnessed from stars.

Asking because this is an important part of how Madara's moves would interact with Ning's.

2. What exactly would Madara open with when encountering a physically non-threatening opponent? Ji Ning looks like a 1.6 m tall pre-teen canonically.

 

[speedster352]

Exactly Madara will use limbo to restrian JI and seal JI with gedo statue or chibaku tensei

It did quite a bit. I hope you don't mind a few more questions;

1. What exactly qualifies as a chakra-like energy for the purposes of energy equalization? Ning uses elemental ki, which he absorbs from the environment and refines into himself but isn't actually naturally occurring in living creatures and can be refined into a liquid for consumption or trade, as well as divine power, which is unique to Fiendgods and is harnessed from stars.

Asking because this is an important part of how Madara's moves would interact with Ning's.

2. What exactly would Madara open with when encountering a physically non-threatening opponent? Ji Ning looks like a 1.6 m tall pre-teen canonically.

Here

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

It did quite a bit. I hope you don't mind a few more questions;

Not a problem.

1. What exactly qualifies as a chakra-like energy for the purposes of energy equalization?

Well, chakra is comprised of physical and mental energies that occur in all living creatures in the verse. It also comprises both of their life-force and literal souls. From my experience, spiritual-like energies have usually been equalized with chakra.

Ning uses elemental ki, which he absorbs from the environment and refines into himself but isn't actually naturally occurring in living creatures and can be refined into a liquid for consumption or trade, as well as divine power, which is unique to Fiendgods and is harnessed from stars.

That sounds a whole lot like Nature Energy; a form of energy that is naturally occurring in the atmosphere, soil, plant-life, etc. With certain training, people can learn to absorb this form of energy and combine it with chakra in order to create Senjutsu or Sage Chakra.

Madara's absorption covers Nature Energy and Senjutsu chakra.

Also, I should clarify: Madara's absorption is contact based, so he can't absorb Ning's energy from a distance.

2. What exactly would Madara open with when encountering a physically non-threatening opponent? Ji Ning looks like a 1.6 m tall pre-teen canonically.

I think his most in-character starting move for a non-threatening opponent, or an opponent he doesn't respect or views as fodder, would likely either be the Susano'o, Sharingan genjutsu, or Fire Style. The most likely one is the Susano'o. He'll probably throw a Susano'o blade at them or something.

 

[speedster352]

Not a problem.

Well, chakra is comprised of physical and mental energies that occur in all living creatures in the verse. It also comprises both of their life-force and literal souls. From my experience, spiritual-like energies have usually been equalized with chakra.

That sounds a whole lot like Nature Energy; a form of energy that is naturally occurring in the atmosphere, soil, plant-life, etc. With certain training, people can learn to absorb this form of energy and combine it with chakra in order to create Senjutsu or Sage Chakra.

Madara's absorption covers Nature Energy and Senjutsu chakra.

Also, I should clarify: Madara's absorption is contact based, so he can't absorb Ning's energy from a distance.

I think his most in-character starting move for a non-threatening opponent, or an opponent he doesn't respect or views as fodder, would likely either be the Susano'o, Sharingan genjutsu, or Fire Style. The most likely one is the Susano'o. He'll probably throw a Susano'o blade at them or something.

After he sees him regen he will trow out limbo restrain JI and seal him with Gedo statue

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Though I should mention, Madara can see an opponent's energy and assess their strength with his ocular powers, so he's unlikely to be fooled into believing his opponent is weak.

 

[speedster352]

Though I should mention, Madara can see an opponent's energy and assess their strength with his ocular powers, so he's unlikely to be fooled into believing his opponent is weak.

Exactly so his win cons is limbo and sealing with the Gedo statue

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

That has nothing to do with what I said, but ok

 

[Zaratthustra]

Funny thread.

But Madara never went for sealing bare once and that was for getting the Bijuu in the Gedo Statue which you know is the vessel for the chakra so I doubt it will seal human beings.

 

[speedster352]

Funny thread.

But Madara never went for sealing bare once and that was for getting the Bijuu in the Gedo Statue which you know is the vessel for the chakra so I doubt it will seal human beings.

That's what he starts off with or chibaku tensei

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Funny thread.

But Madara never went for sealing bare once and that was for getting the Bijuu in the Gedo Statue which you know is the vessel for the chakra so I doubt it will seal human beings.

Nah, it can seal physical objects in general.

 

[Zaratthustra]

Well, these are the treasures of sage of six ramens so it has the chakra of Kurama... well not here yet..

But sincerely, Madara is not someone to use Sealing in his fights. Likely till something truly is dangerous but in the end is just an assumption from what ive seen of his fights through the series. He would rather use katon faster or his fan - uchiha fan reflection and melee with the fan or whatever weapon he gets his hands on (like he did on his reveal vs the army) and then once he gets more serious use Susanoo.

 

[speedster352]

Well, these are the treasures of sage of six ramens so it has the chakra of Kurama... well not here yet..

But sincerely, Madara is not someone to use Sealing in his fights. Likely till something truly is dangerous but in the end is just an assumption from what ive seen of his fights through the series. He would rather use katon faster or his fan - uchiha fan reflection and melee with the fan or whatever weapon he gets his hands on (like he did on his reveal vs the army) and then once he gets more serious use Susanoo.

Once he uses his ranged attacks and he see Ji regen he will resort to hax. It's that simple

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Well, these are the treasures of sage of six ramens so it has the chakra of Kurama... well not here yet..

Regardless of their contents, the Gedo Statue actually sealed the gourds themselves as well.

But sincerely, Madara is not someone to use Sealing in his fights. Likely till something truly is dangerous but in the end is just an assumption from what ive seen of his fights through the series. He would rather use katon faster or his fan - uchiha fan reflection and melee with the fan or whatever weapon he gets his hands on (like he did on his reveal vs the army) and then once he gets more serious use Susanoo.

Madara doesn't have his Gunbai anymore in this key.

 

[speedster352]

Once he uses his ranged attacks and he see Ji regen he will resort to hax. It's that simple

Regardless of their contents, the Gedo Statue actually sealed the gourds themselves as well.

Madara doesn't have his Gunbai anymore in this key.

here

 

[Zaratthustra]

Sigh, you dont need to quote others when they just said it.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

 

[speedster352]

Can we start voting since we have win cons for both? I vote madara fra

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

There's not a single proper argument made for Madara tho, Uchiha only explained what he will do and how Madara's abilities works

 

[speedster352]

Once he uses his ranged attacks and he see Ji regen he will resort to hax. It's that simple

There's not a single proper argument made for Madara tho, Uchiha only explained what he will do and how Madara's abilities works

Here

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Here

How tf is that a proper argument? LOL

 

[XDragnoir]

Susano will block it

Ning can one shot Susano'o even if we are using his 6C end, but since the OP didn't say anything i think we are using Ning's H6C end? Just makes things easier then.

 

[speedster352]

Ning can one shot Susano'o even if we are using his 6C end, but since the OP didn't say anything i think we are using Ning's H6C end? Just makes things easier then.

Same thing limbo, Gedo statue sealing gg

 

[XDragnoir]

Same thing limbo, Gedo statue sealing gg

But Ning has speed amps so he will be too fast for Limbo clones, and can the Limbo clones even restrain massive targets? Ning can grow to be 10m tall.

 

[speedster352]

But Ning has speed amps so he will be too fast for Limbo clones, and can the Limbo clones even restrain massive targets? Ning can grow to be 10m tall.

They were mopping the tailed beast with punches so don't worry about that. Then Madara seals with Gedo statue or chibaku tensei

 

[Planck69]

Has Madara ever even used those things on opponents that weren't Bijuu?

 

[speedster352]

Has Madara ever even used those things on opponents that weren't Bijuu?

That's all he did in this key