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Luke Skywalker vs Kaguya

Nachos 2019 said:
Still vote incon, because her main move is eternity manip, but i'dont know if it would be her first move
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If it's not her first move than she gets mindhaxed before she can use it.
 
Hey guys. Just gonna jump in here. Kaguya can resist his mind hax. Drinkers of the Hourai Elixir are not only unbound to death but this applies to their mental and spiritual states too. Meaning if Luke was able to mind hax her it, would still recover just as her physical body would.
 
Sarvaughan said:
Hey guys. Just gonna jump in here. Kaguya can resist his mind hax. Drinkers of the Hourai Elixir are not only unbound to death but this applies to their mental and spiritual states too. Meaning if Luke was able to mind hax her it, would still recover just as her physical body would.
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Has that worked on universal mind hax? Because if not then Luke just laughs at any attempts to recover from it.
 
Her mind regenerating has nothing to do with it being controlled

That's not even a proper resistance feat, that's regenerating your mind
 
I'm saying that her mind is unbound to manipulation. I was just adding the regen effect to it's abilities.

"Drinkers become an existence completely independent of even the concept of reality, thus making one not subject to the bounds of life, death, or even manipulation.(Nourishment such as food, water, or sleep does not impact her body at all). This makes them completely indestructible, and it extends to their mental and spiritual states just as much as their physical state, as shown with Mokou, Kaguya, and Eirin who are all shown living a carefree life free of mental exhaustion even after 1300 years.


From the Touhou Wiki
 
Actually it's pretty interesting, basically, "she stay her mind in an eternal state and she reject all changes"

@Sarvaugha I advise you to create a thread about, and it's better if you found scan, I know, Touhou wiki is pretty good but it's always better with scans
 
It's immune to manipulation in her own verse

Take her out of it and there are plenty who can manipulate it.

Luke can mindhax non-sentients anyway
 
That doesn't really make sense, manipulation in own verse. That like saying any resistance in a verse would only apply to that verse's powers. And non sentience is by far not the same as someone who exists beyond laws of reality.
 
Uhh

Yes it would absolutely apply to that verses potency if they only cap out at a certain range.

Heck Touhou Mind Manipulation isn't that great from what I remember, not even planetary

You being immune to manipulation on a planetary scale in your verse means nothing when characters outside of the verse who's manipulation is vastly more potent.

Luke in this case, is strong enough to mindhax characters with planetary resistance to mind manipulation.

If it doesn't make sense, I can point you in the direction of multiple threads that accept this.
 
Touhou's mindhax was planetary but it was never focused on one person iirc so everyone just has basic resistance
 
The moon affects humans on a planetary scale and nearly all touhou characters resist it easily, Kaguya being completely immune to it. Koishi is able to affect others who resist the Moon's effect and Reisen completely no sells her mind manipulation. So yeah, touhou mind hax is fairly strong. A mind that's affected by eternity to remain in the same state isn't just some resistance a strong mind had will bypass. That requires a whole set of reality/ causality warping.
 
That's it?

So her immunity to Mind Manipulation is immunity at its most basic level?

Yeah, Luke thinks
 
How is an eternity manipulated mind a basic immunity? Unless Luke can warp reality to change that, he's not getting past it
 
NLF when Luke literally is equal to people who can mindhax the entire universe

literally, our planet's population of billions is completely dwarfed by just one of the star wars galaxies having several Quadrillion
 
Sarvaughan said:
How is an eternity manipulated mind a basic immunity? Unless Luke can warp reality to change that, he's not getting past it
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Universe level mind hax tells that level of mind hax to f off.
 
Sarvaughan said:
How is an eternity manipulated mind a basic immunity? Unless Luke can warp reality to change that, he's not getting past it
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If an Eternity manipulated mind is only one person, that's not even that great, and warping reality to break a resistance that small is certainly not required
 
To activate it it is. But the Hourai Elixir was made using Kaguya's powers thus why those who drink it are affected by her eternity manipulation. This explains their immunity to conventional death and their mind/soul retaining it's state
 
And so Luke now has causality manipulation to tell eternity to f off? Also question, does this key of Luke have that feat?
 
Except their immunity to Mind Hax is immunity to it on its most basic level

People that Luke can Mind break have planetary resistance and thus have better resistance then Kaguya herself.
 
Assuming Kaguya is immune to Mind Manipulation on such a scale is huge NLF.

It's inconclusive anyways. Whoever thinks first
 
This is like saying someone with universal potent soul manipulation nopes someone with no soul or said soul doesn't exists in reality
 
Which is a horrendous comparison as she actually has a mind but it's manipulated to have resistance

He mind breaks resistances bigger then gets, so if he thinks, she's Mind haxed
 
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