Suzaku Kururugi vs Luke Skywalker (Code Geass vs Star Wars)

[Doggo]

I've decided to pit my favorite Sci-Fi series against my favorite mecha anime

Luke Skywalker vs Suzaku Kururugi

Return of the Jedi Luke and Lancelot Albion Suzaku will be used
Speed is equalized
Both are in character but are willing to win
The battle takes place in a destroyed city


Jedi Knight:
Knight of Zero:​

 

[Arkansalter2]

Yeah so an issue... if Suzaku gets touched by that lightsaber of his, that's GGs.

 

[Doggo]

Yeah so an issue... if Suzaku gets touched by that lightsaber of his, that's GGs.

He is riding a big mech that has range attacks. Luke will have to hit the cockpit to win. Even if he goes CQC, Suzaku uses two huge swords; if he sees Luke cut them, he will proceed to range spam.

 

[Arkansalter2]

if he sees Luke cut them, he will proceed to range spam.

Luke has dealt with ranged a myriad of times before. The ranged spam is easily deflected by either force barrier, force deflection, or the lightsaber.

 

[Doggo]

Luke has dealt with ranged a myriad of times before. The ranged spam is easily deflected by either force barrier, force deflection, or the lightsaber.

He would struggle to do that when Suzaku's Lancelot has higher AP than he does. Also, the projectiles Suzaku shoots are massive, courtesy of being a mecha character. He can shoot energy beams from the mech's wings, each blast having a ton of AOE. Even if Luke deflects them, the shockwaves when they land on his surroundings will mess him up. If Luke tries to cut a bullet from the VARIS (his big gun), his saber will take some time to cut it, because it's a huge, solid bullet. We see Sabers take time to cut through thick doors, so a huge bullet will have the same effect. Also, I don't think Luke's saber will be effective against his weapons. We see Lancelot's sword clash against the Radiant Sruge, which melts mechs with radiation. We also see his bullets overpower the radiant surge, which struggles to melt his bullets.

How high is Luke's LS btw? Suzaku seems to be baseline class M.

 

[Doggo]

Suzaku massively upscales from 575 tons btw, if Im correct Luke is around 400 tons rigth

 

[Phsccarvalho]

He would struggle to do that when Suzaku's Lancelot has higher AP than he does. Also, the projectiles Suzaku shoots are massive, courtesy of being a mecha character. He can shoot energy beams from the mech's wings, each blast having a ton of AOE. Even if Luke deflects them, the shockwaves when they land on his surroundings will mess him up. If Luke tries to cut a bullet from the VARIS (his big gun), his saber will take some time to cut it, because it's a huge, solid bullet. We see Sabers take time to cut through thick doors, so a huge bullet will have the same effect. Also, I don't think Luke's saber will be effective against his weapons. We see Lancelot's sword clash against the Radiant Sruge, which melts mechs with radiation. We also see his bullets overpower the radiant surge, which struggles to melt his bullets.

Force Stasis

 

[Arkansalter2]

How high is Luke's LS btw? Suzaku seems to be baseline class M.

Lukes LS seems to be upscaling from 62 million KG.... which is 62000 Metric tons, far above baseline class M
Luke should TK carry if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Doggo]

Force Stasis

Solid wincon, but he doesn't start with it. It also has a limited range; Suzaku can fly away beyond Luke's ability to slow/freeze.

Lukes LS seems to be upscaling from 62 million KG.... which is 62000 Metric tons, far above baseline class M
Luke should TK carry if I'm not mistaken.

Damn. Suzaku can fly, but he won't be able to overpower his TK. Luke can also disarm his mech by pulling his weapons away. Suzake can still fire energy attacks with his wings, tho, so he can still range spam, but Luke can easily drag him closer. Maybe I should use 2nd key Suzaku for the dura neg nuke....

I also want to mention, Suzaku massively upscales from his value; he might be able to bypass Luke's barriers with a single shot. The shockwaves of his attack will deal severe damage to Luke. Force stasis might be used to stop the projectiles, but from what we can see of Cal, it takes up energy (unless I'm misremembering Cal's games)

The size of Suzaku's mech also prevents Luke from cutting it effectively.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Solid wincon, but he doesn't start with it. It also has a limited range; Suzaku can fly away beyond Luke's ability to slow/freeze.

Luke can hold him via TK. From there he can do anything, force choke, pull him closer, destroy the armor, etc.

Damn. Suzaku can fly, but he won't be able to overpower his TK. Luke can also disarm his mech by pulling his weapons away. Suzake can still fire energy attacks with his wings, tho, so he can still range spam, but Luke can easily drag him closer. Maybe I should use 2nd key Suzaku for the dura neg nuke....

Do you have any videos so I can see how this character fights?

bypass Luke's barriers with a single shot.

Can it pass through abstract CM2 barriers?

Force stasis might be used to stop the projectiles, but from what we can see of Cal, it takes up energy (unless I'm misremembering Cal's games)

The size of Suzaku's mech also prevents Luke from cutting it effectively.

That's just video game mechanics, having a bunch of energy that consumes power.

About the size of the mecha, Luke can just copy Darth Vader by destroying the mecha with TK.

 

[Pyro9278]

Any projectiles directed at Luke would be anticipated via his Force Sense. I don't see anything preventing him from using TK (Telekinesis) directly against Suzaku rather than engaging in an unnecessary mech duel. If he doesn't incapacitate him immediately, he'd almost certainly do so after disarming and/or dodging Suzaku's attacks.

 

[Ebihara]

Would suzukua be willing to use FLEIJA? Maybe its a destroyed city.

 

[Doggo]

Would suzukua be willing to use FLEIJA? Maybe its a destroyed city.

Suzaku is using the Albion, the FLEIJA is only for the Conquesta

Any projectiles directed at Luke would be anticipated via his Force Sense. I don't see anything preventing him from using TK (Telekinesis) directly against Suzaku rather than engaging in an unnecessary mech duel. If he doesn't incapacitate him immediately, he'd almost certainly do so after disarming and/or dodging Suzaku's attacks.

The issue is, Suzaku can just dodge or block them. If he realizes he can't rely on range, his thick swords will allow him to clash with the Lightsaber; he can also use an energy shield directly attached to his arm, meaning it can't be removed unless Luke removes the limb (which will be difficult given the thickness)

Incap via Force Statsis or TK seems likely, but Force Statsis has a time limit. Suzaku can still fire projectiles from his wings if Luke restricts him with TK

 

[Pyro9278]

The issue is, Suzaku can just dodge or block them. If he realizes he can't rely on range, his thick swords will allow him to clash with the Lightsaber; he can also use an energy shield directly attached to his arm, meaning it can't be removed unless Luke removes the limb (which will be difficult given the thickness)

Incap via Force Statsis or TK seems likely, but Force Statsis has a time limit. Suzaku can still fire projectiles from his wings if Luke restricts him with TK

With the LS advantage, TK would likely be quite problematic. I don't foresee any real issues with him maintaining Force Stasis or TK - this key features a Luke with far greater Force mastery. Unless Suzaku spammed some kind of danmaku attack and forced Luke to constantly rely on Force Sense, I doubt Luke's TK concentration would actually be compromised.

 

[Doggo]

With the LS advantage, TK would likely be quite problematic. I don't foresee any real issues with him maintaining Force Stasis or TK - this key features a Luke with far greater Force mastery. Unless Suzaku spammed some kind of danmaku attack and forced Luke to constantly rely on Force Sense, I doubt Luke's TK concentration would actually be compromised.

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[Peppersalt43]

Bumping for interest

 

[Doggo]

So....

Luke:
-LS advantage
-Can sense where Suzaku's cockpit is
-Force stasis
-Precognition

Suzaku:

• AP advantage (massively upscales from his value and likely overpowers Luke's attempts to stop his attacks)
• Energy wing danmaku can counter TK hold
• Energy shield and swords can block the saber (Lancelot's swords are thick)
• The AOE of his projectiles would mess Luke up.

 

[Peppersalt43]

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[Rex_Eckles]

So....

Luke:
-LS advantage
-Can sense where Suzaku's cockpit is
-Force stasis
-Precognition

Suzaku:

• AP advantage (massively upscales from his value and likely overpowers Luke's attempts to stop his attacks)
• Energy wing danmaku can counter TK hold
• Energy shield and swords can block the saber (Lancelot's swords are thick)
• The AOE of his projectiles would mess Luke up.

Would Luke be able to deflect the projectiles with his lightsaber. You also might want to include for Luke that his lightsaber can cut through the mech's metal.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I doubt Luke's TK concentration would actually be compromised.

Force Choke is an option.

It was Luke's first move in RoJ. And as the video demonstrates, constant hand gestures aren't necessary.

Would Luke be able to deflect the projectiles with his lightsaber.

With the lightsaber, not because of the size of the projectiles, but with Force Barrier/Force Deflection, yes.

Although the AOE would be a problem, I don't see a hax explosion on Suzaku's profile.

 

[Wonder_of_Fantasy]

How durable is the cockpit against a Lightsaber's plasma? I can only think of Lightsaber Throw/TK being Luke's best option here.

Alongside what he gets from being Force Sensitive.

 

[Doggo]

Would Luke be able to deflect the projectiles with his lightsaber. You also might want to include for Luke that his lightsaber can cut through the mech's metal.

I mention the mech being a little too thick for Luke to cut easily; it took him time to cut the underbelly of an AT-AT during ESB. Also, Lancelot's swords can clash with radiation hot enough to melt other mech mechs, and he can just use a forcefield to block.

Although the AOE would be a problem, I don't see a hax explosion on Suzaku's profile.

CG profiles are outdated, damn....

but here are the showings


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How durable is the cockpit against a Lightsaber's plasma? I can only think of Lightsaber Throw/TK being Luke's best option here.

Alongside what he gets from being Force Sensitive.

It's mostly the thickness, but Luke can cut through it, although it will probably take him around 10 seconds, which is enough time for either force stasis to wear off or Suzaku to counterattack.

 

[Peppersalt43]

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