Luffy fights a giant ship

[Paulo.junior.969]

k.

 

[Moritzva]

I believe there isn't a standard for if energy beams are blunt or not. Some lasers explode in fiction, others burn through your face. To my knowledge, it's 100% based off of what's shown.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Yeah, there's really no reason to assume Luffy's resistance to blunt force would also make him resistant to lasers and energy beams.

 

[Moritzva]

Does someone have clips of said lasers? Do they pierce and cut, or explode?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

I posted a clip earlier.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

They explode

https://youtu.be/9yZ6zkBJsd0

 

[BakiHanma18]

Luffy FRA, and I don't see how this is a stomp

 

[Moritzva]

If they explode, they're blunt. Thus, Luffy resists.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Grace+1, I guess.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

If they explode, they're blunt. Thus, Luffy resists.

Ok.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

So there's that argument out the window, glad to see someone gets it

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Then there's throwing Luffy out of the oxygen area and avoiding Luffy until Gear 4th runs out.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

You say that like he can't fly or gum gum his way back to the ship

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

He'll be too busy dying, since he's never shown to be able to survive in space.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He can fly, he wouldn't be thrown into space as a result

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

He's never shown to be able to fly in space, specially because he can't survive in space to begin with.

 

[Moritzva]

Space is ******* brutal.

As taken from this source-

• "Upon sudden decompression in vacuum, expansion of air in a person's lungs is likely to cause lung rupture and death unless that air is immediately exhaled. Upon sudden decompression in vacuum, expansion of air in a person's lungs is likely to cause lung rupture and death unless that air is immediately exhaled."

• "Contrary to how the lungs are supposed to function at atmospheric pressure, oxygen diffuses out of the bloodstream when the lungs are exposed to a vacuum. This leads to a condition called hypoxia, or oxygen deprivation. Within 15 seconds, deoxygenated blood begins to be delivered to the brain, whereupon unconsciousness results."

• "Data from animal experiments and training accidents suggest that an individual could survive at least another minute in a vacuum while unconscious, but not much longer."

Not to mention, due to a lack of actual matter in space, flying will be difficult, although I do not know how Luffy can fly.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Luffy's Pseudo-Flight comes from kicking off the air and bouncing off of it.

 

[Moritzva]

Well he obviously can't do that in outer space.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Yeah.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

he's not going to be in space to begin with as he will fly before he is in space

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

He'll be paralyzed. He can't fly unless he moves his legs.

Also, if Peridot keeps him imobalized for too long, Gear 4th runs out and he's ******.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He wouldnt be paralyzed when she throws him

 

[BakiHanma18]

He wouldnt be paralyzed when she throws him

But the TB paralyses, no?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Peridot was shown to be able to move targets around while they are paralyzed; granted, they are unparalyzed once she lets them go, but its unlikely she would do so after seeing that Luffy can fly during the fight. She could just fly the ship out of the oxygen area and drop him there, since unlike Luffy, Peridot is perfectly capable of surviving in space.

She could also just hold him until Gear 4th runs out.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

But the TB paralyses, no?

Yes but as soon as she throws them theyre unparalyzed

 

[BakiHanma18]

But the TB paralyses, no?

Yes but as soon as she throws them theyre unparalyzed

Could she just move him there, like, no throw?

 

[The_Calaca]

Yes.

 

[Moritzva]

...is that her only wincon?

Since manually carrying Luffy into outer space seems very OOC, and would incline me to believe this is a stomp.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Pretty much yes

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Could she just move him there, like, no throw?

Shr can only move things a few feet, she needs both hands to control the ship both manually and remotely, she'd have to throw him

 

[The_Calaca]

OoC wincon =/= Stomp.

I think we should create a discussion rule about this argument. It has been used so much times it's boring to repeat the same counterargument over and over.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

See therein lies the problem, its not even that it's ooc , its physically impossible for her

 

[The_Calaca]

She can easily outlast him if she gets the shot, tho.

 

[Moritzva]

Relying on the opponent to do absurd, out of character things for them to win is definitionally a stomp.

It's as if the argument for The God Emperor to not stomp Peridot via The God Emperor acting OOC and killing himself.

Out of character wincons, unless bloodlusted, are not wincons against stomps.

 

[The_Calaca]

If the wincon exists even if the character is not bloodlusted, then it's because they can do it. Not doing so because in-character style says no it's not an argument to prove a stomp.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Okay but here's the thing, if rendered immobile wouldnt Luffy just beat her with conqueror's haki?

 

[The_Calaca]

Oh, so now Haki works?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

why would haki not work?

 

[The_Calaca]

Yo

u tell me.