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Lucci CRT 3: The Payback War
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Well I didn't really feel like it but I guess I'll add it
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Added it.
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I see no actual blood at all (let alone a neck crack sound), and white eyed is common af in One Piece.
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It's definitely blood. You can see his beard in other panels and it's not on those spots.
Also, there is a sound, it's "crik"
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I've seen and shown literally all of those kinds of spots in one panel or another, although it's admittedly inconsistent.
From what I can find, those sfx are translated as boom, wham or whack, and the sound effects from Sanji hitting Oven are crik or crack. Do you have any evidence that this one is crack?
From what I can find, those sfx are translated as boom, wham or whack, and the sound effects from Sanji hitting Oven are crik or crack. Do you have any evidence that this one is crack?
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Cracking your neck means its injured?
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That is literally a fictional trope in the same vein as knuckle cracking. He cracked his own neck (which, at best, implies it was stiff after Luffy's punch), and it didn't even come after the panel you're talking about.
Also, once again, Luffy had Haki active and he didn't have any on his face. So taking relatively light damage from a punch like this just makes Lucci look more impressive.
Also, once again, Luffy had Haki active and he didn't have any on his face. So taking relatively light damage from a punch like this just makes Lucci look more impressive.
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Nah, we not changing shit
Lemme finish my reply
Lemme finish my reply
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Well alright then, suppose he didn't crack his neck.
But how exactly does he scale to base Luffy btw?
Not saying he shouldn't but I'm simply curious.
But how exactly does he scale to base Luffy btw?
Not saying he shouldn't but I'm simply curious.
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By all means go ahead, I need to see this.
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Yeah but like, how, is all I'm saying.
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Should we maybe ping people like Damage and Mitch?
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He clashed with G5 Luffy (who's way stronger than his base) and took Haki-amped hits from him.
Even if he wasn't anywhere near equal to G5 (which I don't exactly agree or disagree), he is not hundreds of times lower than base Luffy, who is immensely weaker than even a normal punch from G5 on pretty much any possible scale.
It is that simple.
Even if he wasn't anywhere near equal to G5 (which I don't exactly agree or disagree), he is not hundreds of times lower than base Luffy, who is immensely weaker than even a normal punch from G5 on pretty much any possible scale.
It is that simple.
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This whole CRT is to remove him scaling to Luffy via the clash and people still use it. Great.
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This is already giving me a headache man.
Not to mention KT is going to potentially buttfuck the entire thing in a few minutes because I criticized him on dickscord.
Can not possibly be worse
Not to mention KT is going to potentially buttfuck the entire thing in a few minutes because I criticized him on dickscord.
Can not possibly be worse
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Plus, you can still use certain feats to scale other characters above some characters without scaling to particular characters. For example, Metal Knight doesn't scale to Elder Centipede for causing EC pain, but he scales above Metal Bat because MB couldn't.
By this logic, you can still have Lucci be High 6-A via doing shit that's completely impossible for other High 6-As to do, and not scale him to G5.
In conclusion, your logic is terrible. Get wrecked.
By this logic, you can still have Lucci be High 6-A via doing shit that's completely impossible for other High 6-As to do, and not scale him to G5.
In conclusion, your logic is terrible. Get wrecked.
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What the **** are you talking about
Also I never said he can't be H6A or what ever they'll be when the scaling is changed, I just said not to scale him to G5
Also I never said he can't be H6A or what ever they'll be when the scaling is changed, I just said not to scale him to G5
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Implying KT gives a **** about this thread.
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Though that's right to a degree, I really do wonder what we would use for scaling if this is accepted.
I'd be fine with him getting a small downscale in most stats, though AP is dubious.
I'd be fine with him getting a small downscale in most stats, though AP is dubious.
I kind of pissed him off on dickscord and now he's basically dropping a ******* mortar on the CRT
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I'll wait on giving my opinion until KingTesticle posts his comment.
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Come out the closet already god damn
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Maybe don't piss people off then?
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Inb4 KT pulls up the mystical Databook Purple ( which he got from a crackhead in Arabia ) scan saying Lucci is god tier and scales above Rocks and had been sparing Luffy when he was fighting him ( he didn't use his 15 mile Conq Haki that can knock out Goku and Shanks in one fell swoop )
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It's harder than it seems with certain people.
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Ok, we're getting completely off topic.
I personally am not opposed to this thread (and even agree with the LS downgrade at least), just any sort of conception that Lucci doesn't even remotely scale to any form Luffy.
That's my final statement (even though I've said it like 5 times) until whatever KT has to say.
I personally am not opposed to this thread (and even agree with the LS downgrade at least), just any sort of conception that Lucci doesn't even remotely scale to any form Luffy.
That's my final statement (even though I've said it like 5 times) until whatever KT has to say.
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I'll unfollow this.
You new gen One Piece stans are disappointing.
You new gen One Piece stans are disappointing.
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Womp womp womp
Alright, thank you.
Also I feel he could maybe downscale, in stuff like dura, and POSSIBLY speed with stuff like Kamisori.
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I swear to god after this I'm making a discussion rule. I don't care if I gotta make it at 5 in the ******* morning I'm still making it.
Cause I was gonna let it slide until you did this shit. I'm sick of this shit.
These same bad arguments you keep using is actually pissing me off at this point. All you do is word them differently.
Saying "he should get fire manipulation", that getting declined, then saying "he should get the ability to ignite things into flames", and thinking that's gonna get accepted. That's what you keep doing.
Threads like this are the reason why I can't leave this verse, because I need to keep coming back to fix it cause yall can't handle it for a single ******* second when I'm gone.
There are politics in play that stop members of the world government from fighting Yonko if they aren't admirals or SWORD members, which you know, which you repeatedly ignore.
A regular ass member of the world government cannot fight a Yonko without the clearance of the world government higher ups because they risk starting a war, but then people like SWORD, who are undoubtedly far weaker than the Yonko they're allowed fight, are allowed to fight them, because they aren't tied to them, or won't be tied to them after. Going to war with SWORD is going to war with people who are out of the marines.
That's why Akainu wasn't scared for Lucci's life when he heard he was on bullshit with fighting Luffy, he said "it's a declaration of war at this point".
Even Jinbe who was watching them said that Luffy shouldn't fight them because of what he represents. He can't go on randomly fighting people anymore.
And if you think it's strength based, even GARP HIMSELF, the dude who fought ROGER AND THE ROCKS CREW still needed permission to go throw hands with BLACKBEARD'S CREW, NOT EVEN BLACKBEARD HIMSELF.
You never understood that there are politics at play in the series that don't involve strength. This isn't a musclehead verse like DBZ. People don't just blow each other up cause they can. People need to think about their actions.
God tier Yonko level King Awakened Luffy was on their side next to the same Lucci and they couldn't put down a single ******* Seraphim even when Luffy was in Gear 4th (same Gear 4th that pieced up Kaidou without Haoshoku haki).
You're just talking, memeing, and trolling at this point.
Katakuri and Luffy were relative in speed even though Luffy deadass couldn't touch Luffy for like an hour.
Go look at literally every fight in Wano. Including but not limited to
Like honestly is this your argument?
First, a thing called "Newton's third Law".
Lucci has shown that he is capable of emitting a certain output.
Because his hand doesn't shatter every time he throws a punch, he can withstand the force he emits.
Next, because he took hits from the ************.
He got kicked in his face by a considerably stronger move than his... you know... base ******* punches, and got up with relatively no damage.
Bleeding was never a non-factor in scaling. It was causing blood from, you know, wounds, not making them spit blood out.
Luffy in G5 doesn't have a "varies" rating for his lifting strength. He doesn't output different levels of strength when pushing.
This isn't "he summoned a specific type of power that he didn't have before when he used Bajrang gun", that's his regular level of ******* force he can emit when lifting.
Luffy and Lucci clashed. Striking strength.
Luffy and Lucci pushed at each other with their fists until they both shot each other far back. Lifting strength.
This isn't "his LS comes from Kaidou but Lucci scales so inconsistency", this is "his LS comes from his own LS feat, and both Kaidou and Lucci scale to it".
Cause I was gonna let it slide until you did this shit. I'm sick of this shit.
These same bad arguments you keep using is actually pissing me off at this point. All you do is word them differently.
Saying "he should get fire manipulation", that getting declined, then saying "he should get the ability to ignite things into flames", and thinking that's gonna get accepted. That's what you keep doing.
Threads like this are the reason why I can't leave this verse, because I need to keep coming back to fix it cause yall can't handle it for a single ******* second when I'm gone.
Instead of just calling us wankers, maybe your argument just... you know... ******* sucks.
Enlighten me
Incorrect, again, as ******* usual when it comes to Lucci.
There are politics in play that stop members of the world government from fighting Yonko if they aren't admirals or SWORD members, which you know, which you repeatedly ignore.
A regular ass member of the world government cannot fight a Yonko without the clearance of the world government higher ups because they risk starting a war, but then people like SWORD, who are undoubtedly far weaker than the Yonko they're allowed fight, are allowed to fight them, because they aren't tied to them, or won't be tied to them after. Going to war with SWORD is going to war with people who are out of the marines.
That's why Akainu wasn't scared for Lucci's life when he heard he was on bullshit with fighting Luffy, he said "it's a declaration of war at this point".
Even Jinbe who was watching them said that Luffy shouldn't fight them because of what he represents. He can't go on randomly fighting people anymore.
And if you think it's strength based, even GARP HIMSELF, the dude who fought ROGER AND THE ROCKS CREW still needed permission to go throw hands with BLACKBEARD'S CREW, NOT EVEN BLACKBEARD HIMSELF.
You never understood that there are politics at play in the series that don't involve strength. This isn't a musclehead verse like DBZ. People don't just blow each other up cause they can. People need to think about their actions.
Yeah, durability that none of them were able to pierce, and there being 4 of them.
God tier Yonko level King Awakened Luffy was on their side next to the same Lucci and they couldn't put down a single ******* Seraphim even when Luffy was in Gear 4th (same Gear 4th that pieced up Kaidou without Haoshoku haki).
You're just talking, memeing, and trolling at this point.
I don't see Lucci failing to react. I see Lucci getting dodged by a ************ with future sight.
Katakuri and Luffy were relative in speed even though Luffy deadass couldn't touch Luffy for like an hour.
Getting tagged is now not being able to react?
You know you can be relative in speed and get hit without being able to block right?
Go look at literally every fight in Wano. Including but not limited to
- Zoro vs King (said version of King who's far faster than Zoro)
- Luffy vs Kaidou (said Kaidou who's reactions scale far higher due to scaling to his Thunder Bagua)
- Big Mom vs Kid and Law (healthy amped Big Mom vs super injured ******* Law and Kid)
- Sanji vs Queen
- Marco vs King
- Yamato vs Kaidou
- Jinbe vs Who's Who
We can clearly see the ************ saw him. He was just accelerated by the slingshot to speeds he couldn't dodge.
Like honestly is this your argument?
Because of many different factors.
First, a thing called "Newton's third Law".
Lucci has shown that he is capable of emitting a certain output.
Because his hand doesn't shatter every time he throws a punch, he can withstand the force he emits.
Next, because he took hits from the ************.
He got kicked in his face by a considerably stronger move than his... you know... base ******* punches, and got up with relatively no damage.
Bleeding was never a non-factor in scaling. It was causing blood from, you know, wounds, not making them spit blood out.
I hope you know how lifting strength works.
Luffy in G5 doesn't have a "varies" rating for his lifting strength. He doesn't output different levels of strength when pushing.
This isn't "he summoned a specific type of power that he didn't have before when he used Bajrang gun", that's his regular level of ******* force he can emit when lifting.
Luffy and Lucci clashed. Striking strength.
Luffy and Lucci pushed at each other with their fists until they both shot each other far back. Lifting strength.
This isn't "his LS comes from Kaidou but Lucci scales so inconsistency", this is "his LS comes from his own LS feat, and both Kaidou and Lucci scale to it".
It doesn't. You need to reread the entire manga and formulate arguments better.
I'll be adding myself to the OP
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