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- Speed equalized
- Funny Valentine has complete knowledge ove Rimuru abilities
- Funny has 2 years of prep
- Both in character
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This Is Rimuru Pre-Awakened Demon L'orI'm sorry but what in gods name can funny do here?
Vote CountedUntil I see a reason why Rimuru can negate Ticket to Ride, I'm voting Valentine.
1)speed equalized so no passives and I'm pretty sure Love Train would consider that as an attackI'm not gonna vote yet, but I still have a few questions:
1. Doesn't Rimuru have passive radiation hax? Would Love Train consider that as an attack?
2. What can Funny Valentine do against low-high regen and sleep/fear manip in this state?
3. Can't Rimuru use his busted analysis hax to win this?
1)speed equalized so no passives and I'm pretty sure Love Train would consider that as an attack
2)transmutation, Fusionism, Biological manipulation, BFR, Deconstruction,
3)he can do that only after absorbing the opponent
Huh really? Well even then Funny has knowledge over all of Rimuru skills so it should probably helpPassives still exists even when speed is equal, yeah
Eh well Funny has Knowledge over all of Rimuru abilities including passives so Idk if this would helpWhat? Just because speed's equalized doesn't mean passives don't work whatsoever. Love Train also only seems to work against "physical" attacks and such.
Yes it's in character, Love Train doesn't just negate attacks but it also transmute them into a misfortune and send them elsewhere in the Planet and it has like a small city range or a little bit lower :.What's the range of his transmutation/biological manip? Is it in character for him to do that while he's under the effects of Love Train? His BFR only works once his opponent is close enough to him, which Rimuru can counter with his adhesive manip and by hardening himself (unless Love Train's weird sucking-in-things ability can counter that). Deconstruction isn't mentioned anywhere on his page whatsoever, so that's out of the window.
What he did to Diogo wasn't Fusionism, here's the Fusionism feat (however he probably need to be in close range for that)His fusionism also doesn't seem to work on chars with low-high regen since he didn't completely and instantly obliterate Diego.
Eh well Funny has Knowledge over all of Rimuru abilities including passives so Idk if this would help
Yes it's in character, Love Train doesn't just negate attacks but it also transmute them into a misfortune and send them elsewhere in the Planet
What he did to Diogo wasn't Fusionism, here's the Fusionism feat (however he probably need to be in close range for that)
Based on that you vote Rimuru then?Even if he were aware of his passives, there's not much he can do about it since Steel Ball Run takes place somewhere around the end of the 19th century where there was nothing to protect yourself against radiation, especially magical radiation that's extremely toxic to organic life.
It still isn't shown anywhere if it can redirect or transmute something like magical radiation, only "physical" objects (can't really consider Johnny's nail gun thing physical since they're created by his stand). Seeing as how it can even pull things such as houses towards it, Rimuru wouldn't be able to save himself by hardening his body, so would his adhesive manip work in that case?
It seems that he does need to be somewhat close to activate it, but Rimuru should be able to use his water and adhesive manip + his regen to avoid Valentine.
Based on that you vote Rimuru then?
I believe Ticket To Ride would affect the Radiation.It still isn't shown anywhere if it can redirect or transmute something like magical radiation, only "physical" objects (can't really consider Johnny's nail gun thing physical since they're created by his stand). Seeing as how it can even pull things such as houses towards it, Rimuru wouldn't be able to save himself by hardening his body, so would his adhesive manip work in that case?
I'm not too familiar with the WN version, so I'm not sure if Rimuru can just consume Valentine, Love Train included, and BFR them into his Stomach.
I do believe it would be considered unfortunate for Valentine to fall asleep during a fight. Reminder it's anything that can be considered Misfortune in Valentine's favor that Ticket To Ride affects.After reading Pancake's explanation, I'm gonna have to disagree with my own arguments. Since Rimuru has no way of harming Valentine, nor did anybody answer my question about Rimuru's adhesive manip, the only thing that can be considered Rimuru's wincon here is his sleep/fear manip, which he will use right at the start of the fight (gonna need some Slime supporters to prove if I'm right or wrong on whether or not it's in-character for pre-awakening Rimuru to use this). Would Ticket to Ride consider this a form of harm?
Here is Valentine using his ability while only his head is being crushed. Besides, his ability doesn't discriminate when it comes to anything he can be pressed between. If that's not the case he can take off his jacket and lay it over the top of himself.Has Funny ever used his clothes to travel? I know he used a chair once, but doesn't it usually require something that could envelope his entire body?
Valentine found a reality where Diego was never affected by Scary Monsters, so if such differences can occur in parallel universes then he can escape Rimuru's Void by going somewhere it did not happen.Also I'm not entirely sure whether or not Valentine could escape from Rimuru's Stomach considering it doesn't act the same way as regular space; it's specifically designed to contain things within it IIRC. (I'm not sure whether it happened in the WN, but in the LN, Rimuru was also trapped in a similar isolated space, despite Rimuru being able to teleport just fine especially to places he's been before. He needed to analyze the entire structure's coordinates to break free).
Two ways he can overcome this:With Great Sage, it is also likely that she would identify the connection between Lucy and Ticket to Ride, and in the process of BFRing them, possibly separate them in different isolated space within his Stomach.
What????His stand functions differently from the typical 'teleport everywhere' spell. The Void Rimuru was trapped inside prevented use of Rimuru's 3-Dimensional teleportation spell, it hasn't shown the ability to guard against a 5-Dimensional teleportation ability.
Okay.
- Rimuru lacks any ability to let him get through Ticket To Ride's misfortune redirection, since none of his attacks are infinite.
- Valentine could escape Rimuru's Void because D4C's teleportation works differently from regular teleportation. The Void was only shown to prevent teleportation to a different place outside the Void, not preventing teleportation to the same place in a parallel universe.
- Valentine could kill Rimuru by using another Rimuru from a parallel universe, though it may be difficult to set up or execute.
I mean Valentine can also just BFR Rimuru thoValentine could kill Rimuru by using another Rimuru from a parallel universe, though it may be difficult to set up or execute.