Lord Boros vs Pikachu *Intense Laughing* Here we go again.

[AquaWaifu]

What do you mean effciency?


He just puts up a barrier towards an attack he doesnt want to take. Unless he used it literally for the previous attak from before CSRC, it'll work, and hell it would even then still have a decent chance of working.

 

[Phoenks]

Is this still a discussion on why Boros does not stomp?

 

[KGiffoni]

What do you mean effciency?


He just puts up a barrier towards an attack he doesnt want to take. Unless he used it literally for the previous attak from before CSRC, it'll work, and hell it would even then still have a decent chance of working.

Efficiency meaning how good something is at doing its purpose, in this case, defend.

 

[AquaWaifu]

Its good enough to protect against stuff that can do severe damage. Like this is Pokemon, its kinda hard to get super detailed "limits" on what Protect can deal with. Usage in the games is mechanicl so thats useless, and anime and manga is....spotty I assume due to plot.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Boros FRA

 

[KGiffoni]

Its good enough to protect against stuff that can do severe damage. Like this is Pokemon, its kinda hard to get super detailed "limits" on what Protect can deal with. Usage in the games is mechanicl so thats useless, and anime and manga is....spotty I assume due to plot.

In this case, we say that Protect is capable of completly nulifying attacks that aren't far superior to the user of Protect.

 

[Phoenks]

uh, 1 more and thats grace for boros btw.

 

[AquaWaifu]

I feel like it should be above "arent far" that would make it kinda of useless.

 

[KGiffoni]

I feel like it should be above "arent far" that would make it kinda of useless.

Ofc not. Blocking anything your opponent may thrown at you? How is that useless?

 

[AquaWaifu]

I feel like someone who knows the supplementary material more than me should find instances of Protect working against stuff that could oneshot the user or vastly above their power.

 

[Phoenks]

Even if they survive will they be able to live on a completely destroyed surface?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Groudon can just make more land, so yes.

 

[HenryWong122]

Yes, and my 9 year old self was convinced that I could block Brick Break with Protect as well.

I don't know what game you were playing, but Protect works on Brick Break. https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Protect_(move)

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

>I don't know what game you were playing, but Protect works on Brick Break.

Weird, I remember bypassing protect with BB in emerald

 

[Bob8999]

in older versions of pokemon brick break broke through protect but those were really old games like blue, green, red, and yellow version i believe.

 

[HenryWong122]

in older versions of pokemon brick break broke through protect but those were really old games like blue, green, red, and yellow version i believe.

Protect wasn't introduced until gen 2. The bulbapedia page shows all the moves that aren't affected by the move.

 

[Inverted_Tempest]

Boros' Regenerationn isn't going to be helping him anymore if he uses a CSRC and they get amped to the point where they can survive it. They start off in a state where they practically get one shotted by it, but can amp to the point where they could get a W, the profile even makes note of it.

Again, it's not a stomp or impossible for them to win, Boros is just far more likely to be able to get a W off faster here.

 

[KGiffoni]

I'm pretty sure you can survive a hit more than 20x worth your durability if you have High-Mid regen.

 

[Bob8999]

in older versions of pokemon brick break broke through protect but those were really old games like blue, green, red, and yellow version i believe.

Protect wasn't introduced until gen 2. The bulbapedia page shows all the moves that aren't affected by the move.

im like 90% certain it was a thing in blue version but then again i havent played that in like 15 years.

 

[Inverted_Tempest]

I wasn't arguing them bypassing the Regen, I'm saying he would negate his Regenerationn factor after using the attack and lose from doing so.

 

[HenryWong122]

in older versions of pokemon brick break broke through protect but those were really old games like blue, green, red, and yellow version i believe.

Protect wasn't introduced until gen 2. The bulbapedia page shows all the moves that aren't affected by the move.

im like 90% certain it was a thing in blue version but then again i havent played that in like 15 years.

I'm 100% certain your wrong. https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Protect

 

[Phoenks]

Not even sure what we are discussing anymore

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

I would like to point out that Protect cant fully block Z-Moves, so i assume It wont be able to block an attack that is massively stronger than the user.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF6CfMMVofM

 

[KonoDioDDDa]

can Pikachu and Groundon use every move that are on their profiles?

 

[Phoenks]

i mean they should be able to

 

[Demon_Takumo_31]

I would like to point out that Protect cant fully block Z-Moves, so i assume It wont be able to block an attack that is massively stronger than the user.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF6CfMMVofM

I would like to point out that Electroweb (a move not design for protection) fully block a Z-Move.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvpO_VKmPbU

 

[KonoDioDDDa]

i think that pikachu and groundon can have an advantage, Groundon can buff himself with Bulk Up (i think to 4x) and heal with rest, both pikachu and groundon(he can learn electric moves) have a chance to paralize Borus, stastistc reduction and groundon moves become stronger in sunlight

 

[Bob8999]

rest puts groudon to sleep for awhile which would leave him and pikachu vunerable.

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Does the anime depict how Rest works? I can't recall any instance of it being explained or depicted. If there are no examples, you'd have to question how long a 'turn' is to figure out how long Groudon would be immobile.

 

[Bob8999]

i believe its used several times in the anime (cant think of specific examples but id bet money that a snorlax used it atleast once.). most of the time it seems to last atleast a few minutes.

 

[Phoenks]

still discussing?

 

[KonoDioDDDa]

Groundon can learn Sleep Talk, but i don't know if Groundon can use also the moves that he learn from TM's in this match, despite this i think that Pikachu and Groundon can have some advantage if they buff themselves

 

[KGiffoni]

Anything they do still can't bypass instant high-mid regen.

 

[GiverOfThePeace]

Boros FRA.

 

[Inverted_Tempest]

And we have reached grace

 

[Phoenks]

I doubt it will go the full 24 hours

 

[SuperAPM]

Um, Grace ended like 8 hours ago guys.

 

[Inverted_Tempest]

This can be added then.

 

[SuperAPM]

Boros' page needs to be unlocked then. Where do you go to unlock it?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

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