The issue is, it isn't better. Aside from not finding the distance between Naruto and the beam, but the staff and Naruto, he is using more pixelscaling steps, the one he used shouldn't be, and isn't more reliable than the scene of the feat itself.
If he moved back his arms would further straighten out horizontally, which is not what happens when you use a staff in a sword-like fashion and then end up pushing each other with your blades to gain more leverage (Naruto uses a staff but the principles are the same like in any other samurai flick where two bladesmen push against each other with their blades, heck, literally look up "sword clashing" and look for examples where swordsmen inch closer to each other in a show of wrestling strength with their blades). This is not an animation error, but rather Naruto trying to force his way through Madara's Limbo to test it out, and him trying to gain more leverage would absolutely require Naruto to inch his body closer to the staff to focus that pushing power.
And Alex and I already explained why it's not.
I know. I'll go back over everything on the thread to give a final evaluation, but right now it looks like your primary argument is relying on assuming off-screen movement from Naruto to change the distance.
What? All of it happens on-screen in the anime.
You can be more dishonest with every thread we argue about. Why do you think this calculation was accepted, and not mine? And don't mix things up, don't hide the context and don't be an asshole. These are two completely different situations. Dishonest.
You know I'm talking about scans, right? I am using two different frames. In the animation, there is a model for Naruto, he is the same in all the frames that he appears, because it is his model. There is no possibility that anything in my scan will be inconsistent if the angle does not change.
I agree with the sentiment here. It’s not about how many calculations he is doing per se but how many different images he is using to do so. Despite USK only showing one pixel scaling image, he is “technically” using three different “panels” for his calculation of which it is possible for the position of the character to have changed during the transition from one of those panels (Full body Madara and Naruto to Naruto partial body shot) increasing the margin of error. Additionally, he’s also using a calculation from a “Panel” where the feat occurs to a prior “panel” where the scene doesn’t occur. As I recall, more “scans” in a pixel scaling = less accurate
Except Step 2 is taken from M3X's calc which would mean USk would have to compensate and use that exact scene to calc the feat and not use the other side shot.
Yes but you not thinking Naruto moved is an assumption, that M3X’s calc doesn’t rely on. Thus it is inherently better.
I think it's the opposite way around, but I digress. As I said above; I think that more Calc Group members should be involved preferably. I'm only stating my honest viewpoint here.
M3X’s calc doesn’t have to worry about whether Naruto didn’t or did move tho. His calc takes Naruto’s position directly relative to the beam, as the beam and Naruto are in the same frame.
Would you mind calc'ing your own version then? It would solve most of our confusions then.
That wouldn't solve anything since there is no confusion to solve, just people supporting one thing over the other based on their own interpretations based off what the anime shows.
Just as M3X’s calc uses
I'm aware, I was the one who told him to use Pythagoras and did the px scaling of that scan.
We should just make a summary for now with the important messages as you did before and wait for the cgm, since we won't reach a conclusion without them check the calcs and thread, if USklaverei wishes to add something more then he is free to do so since one of the calc is his.
