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paint.netbtw guys what app that you all using for pixelscaling?
Very well, I concedeAlex came in here looking for blood and lusting for violence
Nice to have such a thorough breakdown tho
Thank youpaint.net
Since when we eyeball stuff? A calc can be made, then we use the calc.why not just eyeball the feat itself without thinking about calculating it?
Dodging light speed beam not Automatically being light speed Reaction, it could be Slower or Faster, so we need Calc to find the closest to actual Speed.If there is a genuine concern with the methods of how this calculation is done, why not just eyeball the feat itself without thinking about calculating it?
In this case, why not just call this a lightspeed reaction feat for Naruto barely dodging a beam of light at close range?
Was about to say this.Dodging light speed beam not Automatically being light speed Reaction, it could be Slower or Faster, so we need Calc to find the closest to actual Speed.
I thought this was my tag@suprememrk
Not as great as Yakuza memes TBHI thought this was my tag
I felt like posting "They're the same picture" meme upon seeing the OP
Anyone has something to say before my calc is considered the one that we will use?Crossed out my calc due to the stuff Alex pointed out.
Guess I'm knocked out bois, it's USk vs M3X now.
We haven't even gotten the evaluations done yet.This Thread is still going? Jesus.
In case no one knows why I crossed my calc out, basically Alex said that the scene where we see Naruto and Madara looking at each other while Limbo blocks the staff is not the correct scene to measure the distance, because Naruto's head moves forward due to the recoil of the block, the only correct scene to measure the distance between the Beam and Naruto is when we see the beam actually closing in to the staff itself, M3X basically having taken care of that via the Pythagoras theorem under Alex's instructions.Yeah I mean, Alex already said that the calc using the scan that shows Naruto and Madara isn't reliable anymore. Mitch gave the ok for my calc and KLOL's, but now KLOL said this:
So in your opinion it doesn't change the fact that a character that evades light doesn't mean React's speed is as fast as light but in my opinion the second Calc is not neat if it's not dodging light not as fast as light then any fiction that avoids light attacks is also not direct as fast as the lightDodging light speed beam not Automatically being light speed Reaction, it could be Slower or Faster, so we need Calc to find the closest to actual Speed.
Exactly. Using that scene means they are calculating the distance between Naruto and the staff. The scene I used is to measure the distance between Naruto and the beam. We don't actually have a frame of the beam hitting the staff. We see the beam going to touch the staff, next frame Naruto already dodged and the staff is cut in half.Using the scene where we see the laser in relation to Nard’s head seems like it’d yield the most accurate results to me.
Dodging Light Speed mean you have Light speed Perception, reaction speed its Depend to Movement, and Distance of course.So in your opinion it doesn't change the fact that a character that evades light doesn't mean React's speed is as fast as light but in my opinion the second Calc is not neat if it's not dodging light not as fast as light then any fiction that avoids light attacks is also not direct as fast as the light
Uh, dodging is both of those things, you thinking of "perceiving", even then you don't need the exact same rating as the object to see it, you can do that with relativistic perception speed, it will just be faster the slower your perception is.Dodging Light Speed mean you have Light speed Perception, reaction speed its Depend to Movement, and Distance of course.
Pick between Mex’s and USklav’s since KLOL’s got neggedJust pick which version of the calcs in the OP is better?
Yes Perceiving, if your movement are fast the object that you see will be slower on your perception, but dodging an projectile its depends of the Distance for Knowing The Reaction Speed, you know what i mean.Uh, dodging is both of those things, you thinking of "perceiving", even then you don't need the exact same rating as the object to see it, you can do that with relativistic perception speed, it will just be faster the slower your perception is.
Important stuff to read:Anywho, can I get a summary of what's to do here, please?
Welp, to defend my calc...
Exactly. Using that scene means they are calculating the distance between Naruto and the staff. The scene I used is to measure the distance between Naruto and the beam. We don't actually have a frame of the beam hitting the staff. We see the beam going to touch the staff, next frame Naruto already dodged and the staff is cut in half.
Using the scene of the feat is not only the only possible way to measure the distance correctly, but also the most accurate one, since we see the attack.
@Fastestthingalive50 ofc,we will see about that.
@MRKest#3
There is something in getting the distance from the manga panel,
the distance showed here:
is different by the distance here:
And going by the speed lines, it is probably because at the former panel he didn't stop moving, as the angle in the latter wouldn't make something that is the size of the upper part of an arm seems like it is only separated by a few centimeters.
ofc, the anime shows that his head didn't change position by a big amount, but it also has some discrepancies with the manga, such as Nard's jacket being in a different position at the moment he thought "he did it again".
Here is down:
Whereas here is up:
Suggesting that he would have thought that in a frame similar to this one where the jacket is also up:
Or the distance between the jacket and the circle being bigger:
Not saying that it is wrong wrong, since as I said the anime shows that his head didn't change position by a big amount, but it is something that should be taken into consideration when calculating feats when the media itself shows some discrepancies.
So, I think my calculation is safer because we can perfectly calculate the distance between Naruto and the staff, being able to dimension laterally so it is much more accurate than using angsize.
Naruto did not dodge the beam when it hit the staff.
Not quite.I looked at the frames, and we have:
1) Naruto preparing the dodge as the beam is touching or just about to touch the staff.
2) Naruto has dodged, and the beam goes through where his head was before he moved.
So to me, the "distance between Naruto and the staff" is the same as "the distance between Naruto and the thing he is dodging". I think that the distance measured from the side-shot using Naruto's full height as comparison is better for the calc.