Legend of Zelda Upgrades: Part 2

[Antvasima]

I do not know, sorry.

 

[Lina_Shields]

Cal and I will figure this out.

 

[Blahblah9755]

Beamos show up in the second dungeon of both Twilight Princess and Ocarina of time, are there any profiles this shouldn't scale to but Epona?

Also isn't this combat speed, not movement/general speed? Since the calc is of Link slashing his sword. If so wouldn't Epona still scale to child Link's supersonic+ movement?

 

[Antvasima]

@Lina Thank you for the help.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Wait will all characters get upgraded or only the top tiers of the verse?

 

[DarkLordofShadows]

Only top tiers, obviously. They are the only ones who can scale to that.

Hylia, Links, Ganondorf, Demise, Majora, etc.

 

[Blahblah9755]

Only top tiers, obviously. They are the only ones who can scale to that.

Hylia, Links, Ganondorf, Demise, Majora, etc.

Except they aren't. The feat occurs in the second dungeon of TP, immediately after Link fighting evenly with Dangoro, who is clearly not a top tier. Beamos are quite often early game enemies.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Ocarina of time too...

and why is epona speed lower than child link movement speed?

 

[Grudgeman1706]

Ocarina of time too...

and why is epona speed lower than child link movement speed?

Link doesn't have relativistic travel speed, only combat/reaction speed. Epona is just a regular horse, and her being faster than Link running doesn't mean she's scale, her survin and dodging stuff is considered pis here.

 

[Blahblah9755]

Link doesn't have relativistic travel speed, only combat/reaction speed. Epona is just a regular horse, and her being faster than Link running doesn't mean she's scale, her survin and dodging stuff is considered pis here.

He's referring to child Link's supersonic+ movement speed, which Epona should logically scale to.

 

[Antvasima]

So, have the profiles had their statistics adjusted yet?

 

[Anonimoe7875]

All characters that had FTL are now Relativistic so... yeah

(But Yuga still have the Light arrows feat at his profile)

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for the information.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

But will Epona get scaled to Child Link movement speed? like all the cast >.>

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

@Anonimoe

Please have a bit more patience, remember that not every admin and/or mod have all the time in the world, specially when they are dealing with other threads and content revisions.

 

[Lina_Shields]

Let's just make sure: Does Child Link scale to the Beamos relativistic speed feat, or not? This is because the Child Link's section for speed is written as: Supersonic+ with Hypersonic+ reactions and combat speed.

Speaking of Link's speed, why is Link's speed rated as flat out Relativistic instead of being rated as Relativistic reactions and combat speed?

Grudge did say that "Link doesn't have relativistic travel speed, only combat/reaction speed", did he not?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Yes, he scales, as he is one who can perform the feat from dungeon two (Dodongo's Cavern) in Ocarina of Time.

The other thing is probably an error the one who made the changes well... Made.

 

[Lina_Shields]

I will wait for input from one more person before adjusting Child Link's speed to Relativistic, although a gif of Child Link dodging a Beamos beam would be handy to have.

 

[Blahblah9755]

Here's a video of child Link compared to a beamos' laser: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3GbKicciTRY

The person is making use of some glitches, but as you can see the beamos still has travel time, which wouldn't change, so child Link's sword slash (or any other action) could still be compared to the beamos' attack.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looking at the stadard profile format page, combat speed is usually the one listed right next to the speed rating. Also, Since Child Link also reacted to Beamos' beams, he does scale. @Lord Xcano mentioned above that child Link does scale when we mentioned Child Link reacting to them. @Cal also mentioned above that he agreed that Young Link scales, as well as the Temple bosses having Relativistic combat speed.

 

[Antvasima]

It should preferably be clarified that Link only possesses relativistic combat speed, yes.

I do not know about if child Link qualifies.

 

[Lina_Shields]

Child Link did manage to react to those Beamos beams, thus would he not scale?

 

[Antvasima]

I think that seems reasonable, yes.

 

[LordXcano]

Should I close this since everything seems done

 

[Antvasima]

No. The changes have not been properly performed, as the descriptions of the reasons for the speed scaling are inaccurate, since they have not been adjusted with the statistics themselves.

Howard said that he would fix it when he gets the time, but has not done so yet.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It does seem like everyone got relativistic. I changed Onox's reasoning to make it so it makes sense. And everyone else is scaled from King Dodongo, OoT Link, or TP Link.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks.

What about all of the characters with descriptions that they scale from Onox?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

They are faster than Onox. So that doesn't necessarily need to change. Which is why I only changed Onox's reasoning.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay then. However, if they are scaled from another character's feat, it may be better to mention that instead.