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Lee Soo-Jin vs Issei Hyoudou
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the calc only resulted in 3 teratonsBurning Full Fingers said:
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^Multiplier
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Well, not anymore actually.
@Setsuna
Yeah, but I'm referring to Vali's feat in this case.
@Setsuna
Yeah, but I'm referring to Vali's feat in this case.
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I don't see how this is a stomp when one side just thinks first.Sir Ovens said:
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Issei gets my vote, honestly think he's way stronger then his profile suggests, based on Ddraigs statement of being able to destroy the world with brute force multiple times over.
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Issei fra.
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Did you guys not read anything above...?
He gets powernulled at the start and turned into a 7A.
He gets powernulled at the start and turned into a 7A.
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Does Issei get Ddraig
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Yep, but he needs some time to summon him. As in a certain amount of time needs to pass before Ddraig can come out.
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Even with what Ddraig said that he can destroy the world with brute force multiple times over can be hyperbole or over a period of time. Maybe it's true but the feat is non-existent. It would be like saying Madara's Susanoo can destroy all things in the Universe because he said so.
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He can requip cxc instantly, plus Issei already fought a guy that could nullify his power and destroy his armour (Rizvim Livin Lucifer), as long as the attack hits you'll still receive the full power of the attack using penetrate, Even if you nullify the attack completely and destroy his armour.Schnee One said:
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Isn't that still just one layer? For it to be power null, the humans would need to have naturally resisted power null but they still got nulled.Sir Ovens said:
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Now that I think about it, Soo-Jin may just be resistant to power null as opposed to power nulling power null. So Issei resists probably. Though, that still puts his CQC into question, as Soo-Jin won't fight at a range knowing that she lacks ranged options.
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SBA means they start at 4km, so that brings in the factor that she needs to close the distance.
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Issei is able to manipulate his attacks like they are part of his body, so he could move them out of the way.
Pailingual: It allows him to hear the voice of, and communicate with the breasts of females. He can listen to their thoughts and strategies, and is useful for gaining knowledge on their plans, techniques and possible weaknesses, eliminating the chance of getting caught off guard and allowing him to stay one step ahead of them. It ignores and bypasses resistances and countermeasures to conventional telepathy, as it is simply breast communication.
Pailingual is going to be helpful in avoiding her attacks and knowing what she's trying to do.
Pailingual: It allows him to hear the voice of, and communicate with the breasts of females. He can listen to their thoughts and strategies, and is useful for gaining knowledge on their plans, techniques and possible weaknesses, eliminating the chance of getting caught off guard and allowing him to stay one step ahead of them. It ignores and bypasses resistances and countermeasures to conventional telepathy, as it is simply breast communication.
Pailingual is going to be helpful in avoiding her attacks and knowing what she's trying to do.
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That isn't going to help much when she's fought on par with someone who was using a martial art made specifically to counter her own and only lost because said martial art literally increased your AP when you perform it.
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A martial arts that counters your moves is different from a technique that lets you know what your opponent is planning and thinking about.
@Burning
Can Issei use the Wyvern Fairies in this key?
@Burning
Can Issei use the Wyvern Fairies in this key?
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There isn't really much to think about. Soo-Jin has one strategy and she sticks to it, and that's to beat the shit out of her opponent. She's like this the entire time she was on screen. The only thing that would really be of importance to Issei would be her fighting technique, which, as I said, does nothing when she's fought someone who directly counters her fighting technique.
Also as elegantly as Dean put it in the latest few chapters:
Knowing a meteor is coming, doesn't mean you can escape death.
Also as elegantly as Dean put it in the latest few chapters:
Knowing a meteor is coming, doesn't mean you can escape death.
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I mean, if he knows she's about to punch him from the left, then he can dodge it easily as he knows where the attack is coming from. If she's blocking, then Issei will be able to hit her where her guard isn't up.
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That's the thing, Mo-Ri knew exactly what she was up to, but still couldn't counter properly because there was just no proper counter to her technique. He couldn't block in time, even though he instinctively knew what attack was coming, so he had to use Il-Pyo's martial art instead to counter her.
Even Mo-Ri himself was caught off guard and stated that he didn't know what technique he performed, only that he performed it.
Even Mo-Ri himself was caught off guard and stated that he didn't know what technique he performed, only that he performed it.
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Dunno if it's exactly the same from what you said, it seems like he knew what she was going to do but he did not have the specifications of how she would do so in detail, which is what Pailingual would do.
@Dragon
Divine Dividing is recorded in Ddraig's soul, so yeah.
Just to mention, he has speed amps as well, and his AP is a fair bit higher so she would not be able to kick his techniques away like that. He can technically redirect it back at her mentally or with the wyverns anyway. To make it worse, the wyverns can double the power of his attacks as they pass through them. Infinity Blaster + Longinus Smasher one shots people on his level and that's not taking into account the Ddraig manifestation and combination moves. There's also BPW and BWC. And I'm pretty sure she can't survive Blazing Inferno?
Still, Pseudo DxD doesn't have resistance to power nullification so the current debate should be pointless. Penetrate wouldn't bypass it unless it works similarly to SGC.
@Dragon
Divine Dividing is recorded in Ddraig's soul, so yeah.
Just to mention, he has speed amps as well, and his AP is a fair bit higher so she would not be able to kick his techniques away like that. He can technically redirect it back at her mentally or with the wyverns anyway. To make it worse, the wyverns can double the power of his attacks as they pass through them. Infinity Blaster + Longinus Smasher one shots people on his level and that's not taking into account the Ddraig manifestation and combination moves. There's also BPW and BWC. And I'm pretty sure she can't survive Blazing Inferno?
Still, Pseudo DxD doesn't have resistance to power nullification so the current debate should be pointless. Penetrate wouldn't bypass it unless it works similarly to SGC.
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