High 4-C Tournament Round 1, Match 4 (Popeye vs Daewi Han)

[TechPrime0920]

So, the previous match was an stomp in Courage favour, allowing him to advance to the round 2!

Now we have an cartoon vs anime themed match, featuring: Popeye the Sailor Man and Daewi Han from The God of High School.... Defenitely an very weird match but that's fault of the bracket seed shuffling

First off, the rules:

• Speed is equalized
• Both at High 4-C, of course (RE: A Battle With The Gods Arc Daewi and Popeye with spinach effect are used here)
• Both with prior knowledge of each other

Who wins and why?
Popeye: 0
Daewi Han: 5
Inconclusive: 2

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Daewi scales to 0.81 Foe; Popeye rating come from assumption so he is baseline, i think.

 

[FinePoint]

Popeye: >=760.516 tenatons of TNT (No calculation, moved stars, should be at least baseline)
Daewi Han: ~19,440 tenatons of TNT

Daewi Han has a ~25.56x AP advantage, and can one-shot.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Popeye’s got transmutation, deconstruction, BFR, matter manipulation/fusionism, toon force that Daewi can’t resist. Also Popeye has Low-Godly regen which is gonna help him against Daewi one-shotting him.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Deconstruction link got nuked

BFR could help but not sure how fast he can pull it

Transmutation work by punching which can be countered by AP or range attack

Matter manipulation/Fusionism isn't that good and Daewi version is better

How good is his regeneration

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Deconstruction link got nuked

BFR could help but not sure how fast he can pull it

Transmutation work by punching which can be countered by AP or range attack

Matter manipulation/Fusionism isn't that good and Daewi version is better

How good is his regeneration

He could probably pull off his BFR pretty quick since he’s in a form in which he goes all out with his abilities

He could use his toon force, invisibility, fire manipulation, and much more to distract Daewi and go in for a punch.

Fair, Daewi’s matter manip is better


It’s low godly meaning Daewi isn’t going to win through AP. Also Popeye’s has an LS advantage.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

BFR seem to be avoidable via flight since Popeye can apparently climb back to animation frame

None of those gonna work via higher AP and enhanced senses

Spinach effect have time limit so that make it easier for Daewi to outlast him.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

BFR seem to be avoidable via flight since Popeye can apparently climb back to animation frame

None of those gonna work via higher AP and enhanced senses

Spinach effect have time limit so that make it easier for Daewi to outlast him.

Fair but Popeye could forcefully use his LS and throw him out of the animation frame if anything. Even if Daewi kept flying away, Popeye could just try to use it again when he gets the chance. (Funnily enough, Popeye can also fly to catch up with him)

Even if invisibility won’t work, his hax would at the very least distract Daewi long enough to to use transmutation on him.

Popeye can ALWAYS make more spinach and his regen can tank any attacks he might face.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

I don't think Daewi would even let Popeye get close to him, he would increase gravity to 1000x or blast him with various kind of attacks.

TBH, none of Popeye abilities is gonna faze him a bit due to his massive AP and versality, most of things thrown at Daewi is gonna get countered quite easily.

Low Godly is a problem, i could see Daewi sending Popeye to Mars/Jupiter with his abilities or this will be Incon.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

When Daewi first got his powers he accidentally threw Satan into the moon. This key is Daewi when he's at his best and has full mastery of his powers.

Popeye can't touch Daewi unless he wants him to since Daewi can put up a force barrier around him and with that AP gap, Popeye isn't going to break it.

Daewi might not be able to kill Popeye but he can sure as hell outlast him given the AP gap and Daewi's far more varied arsenal.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

When Daewi first got his powers he accidentally threw Satan into the moon. This key is Daewi when he's at his best and has full mastery of his powers.

Popeye can't touch Daewi unless he wants him to since Daewi can put up a force barrier around him and with that AP gap, Popeye isn't going to break it.

Daewi might not be able to kill Popeye but he can sure as hell outlast him given the AP gap and Daewi's far more varied arsenal.

Won’t Daewi get tired and drained eventually from using his powers since neither can do enough to permanently put each other down leaving him open? Plus doesn’t he have to actually say his powers out loud leaving him open as well? Also Popeye has hypnosis as well.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Common misconception, Daewi doesn't actually have to say the name of his powers out loud. He's used abilities without speaking multiple times throughout the series.

Also Daewi has fought for days without rest and has reached his absolute limit in stamina and still continued fighting. All this against armies of people and characters physically stronger than him. Popeye being 20x weaker will only make it easier for him.

Not to mention Popeye won't just be fighting Daewi but Haetae as well, who can heal all damage Daewi takes and fight independently from him.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Common misconception, Daewi doesn't actually have to say the name of his powers out loud. He's used abilities without speaking multiple times throughout the series.

Also Daewi has fought for days without rest and has reached his absolute limit in stamina and still continued fighting. All this against armies of people and characters physically stronger than him. Popeye being 20x weaker will only make it easier for him.

Not to mention Popeye won't just be fighting Daewi but Haetae as well, who can heal all damage Daewi takes and fight independently from him.

Ok thanks for clearing that up

Popeye also has very high stamina. He can continuously fight numerous navy men including those who are Bluto and Brutus who are compared to him and magical beings such as genies. Also his spinach can automatically replenish his stamina every time he eats it. Also just because Popeye is at an AP disadvantage doesn’t make the fight easier for Daewi at all.

Popeye has fought more than one opponent at once before and has fought magical beings before to.

Don’t get me wrong, Daewi can DEFINITELY survive against Popeye for a good while and has several advantages, however Popeye can just last longer than Daewi can. Popeye has his advantages including: durability, stamina (Due to being able to replenish it with spinach), LS, intelligence (Popeye is a genius in this state and is very experienced in combat), and has some win cons in terms of hax (BFR, transmutation, hypnosis, toon force, possibly deconstruction, and more) It’s only a matter of time until Popeye gets a hit on Daewi (And knowing Popeye, he will just beat the crap out of Daewi once he gets a leg up)

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Actually it does, since Popeye literally can't harmed Daewi without haxes and it won't take long for Daewi to figure out Popeye immortality.

Even so, Popeye haxes isn't as potent compared to Daewi when the latter can execute with a thought alone, more so he's willing to uses it the moment the battle start. Once more thing is Daewi fought against several martial artists around the world, god, demon, angel, etc, Daewi just outskilled hard here.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Actually it does, since Popeye literally can't harmed Daewi without haxes and it won't take long for Daewi to figure out Popeye immortality.

Even so, Popeye haxes isn't as potent compared to Daewi when the latter can execute with a thought alone, more so he's willing to uses it the moment the battle start. Once more thing is Daewi fought against several martial artists around the world, god, demon, angel, etc, Daewi just outskilled hard here.

What can Daewi do to get past Popeye’s immortality? There’s no way Daewi can permanently kill Popeye even with the AP and hax he has.

I would argue that the hax Popeye does has is arguably more effective then anything Daewi can do throughout the battle, IN THE LONG RUN. Daewi is going to be stumped on Popeye due to his immortality, regeneration, and invulnerability. All Popeye has to do is use his BFR or simply just get a hit of hax on Daewi which is inevitable since the fight would last forever and I simply don’t think that Daewi can go untouched at all for the whole fight. And even if we did say Daewi was more skilled, Popeye’s experience and intelligence is boosted by the spinach making him a genius so he’s bound to figure something out to beat Daewi. Plus Popeye gets madder against tougher foes meaning Popeye will find more solutions to beating Daewi.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I mean, Daewi isn't above just yeeting people into space like he did with Satan.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

I mean, Daewi isn't above just yeeting people into space like he did with Satan.

Neither is Popeye, especially since he’s got the LS advantage.

 

[Comiphorous]

Feels like Popeye has most (if not all) the advantages here.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

I’m voting Popeye btw

 

[TechPrime0920]

1 for Popeye

 

[Comiphorous]

I am also voting Eyepop

 

[Psychomaster35]

Popeye FRA

 

[Jamesthetaker]

As i said before, Popeye haxes are easy to deals with or Daewi just got better one, this also come down that Daewi isn't like any run-of-the-mill enemies Popeye've faced before. Daewi completely trump in every regards, a tap from him would reduce Popeye to bloody gore, save for the haxes.

Either Daewi send him to Mars/Jupiter or this become an Incon. Given how big the AP gap is and Daewi is one of the best fighters among humanity, it wouldn't take long for him to realized most of powers won't work and proceed to incapacitate Popeye instead.

I will take Incon for this matches.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

As i said before, Popeye haxes are easy to deals with or Daewi just got better one, this also come down that Daewi isn't like any run-of-the-mill enemies Popeye've faced before. Daewi completely trump in every regards, a tap from him would reduce Popeye to bloody gore, save for the haxes.

Either Daewi send him to Mars/Jupiter or this become an Incon. Given how big the AP gap is and Daewi is one of the best fighters among humanity, it wouldn't take long for him to realized most of powers won't work and proceed to incapacitate Popeye instead.

I will take Incon for this matches.

Popeye is anything but a run-of-the-mil enemy. Daewi can’t even kill Popeye getting rid of him in general without throwing him out into space which won’t likely happen due to Popeye being prone to use his haxs first thing such as BFR which disrupts the animation frame. (And even if he did fly off, Popeye uses his flight to catch up with him and uses his superior LS to forcefully throw Daewi out.

And literally every single one of Popeyes hax more is effective than you give him credit for (due to it being an automatic win for him in this situation) And Popeye with his spinach is the version of him where he isn’t afraid to hold back against his opponent. So Popeye will inevitably find out a way to defeat Daewi (especially with his genius intellect)

 

[Jamesthetaker]

I was saying the enemies Popeye've faced, even so he can't do anything without his haxes. Daewi wouldn't let Popeye touched him in the first place no less than grapple him. Assuming he did, throwing Daewi anywhere is futile because the guy can get back less than a minute.

The only haxes that is useful is BFR which can be counterd by flight, Hypnosis and Descontruction link got nuked btw. Popeye could throw anything at Daewi and got swipe off easily. This is an Incon at best since neither could kill the other.

 

[joshpiece]

Both with prior knowledge of each other

Daewi is too smart to lose with prior knowledge and a Massive ap advantage.
he will disintegrate him with 1 attack and has thought based attacks.

Has Popeye ever shown to use his hacks while getting destroyed over and over again. If not this is a massive stomp

Daewi whoops him over and over again while haetae heals him or he goes and lives his life while haetae kills him over and over again.

voting for Daewi

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Popeye can win with his hax, but considering this is prior knowledge Daewi, he's not going to let Popeye hit him even once. Daewi is not Mori, he is was more calculative and will think his options over before attacking. He can warp space as a barrier so Popeye won't touch him until spinach buff wears off.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Daewi is too smart to lose with prior knowledge and a Massive ap advantage.
he will disintegrate him with 1 attack and has thought based attacks.

Has Popeye ever shown to use his hacks while getting destroyed over and over again. If not this is a massive stomp

Daewi whoops him over and over again while haetae heals him or he goes and lives his life while haetae kills him over and over again.

voting for Daewi

Popeye is smarter than Daewi though. Sure Daewi is smart and calculative but can that really compete with a genius whom is listed smarter profile wise? Realistically, prior knowledge just gives more advantage to Popeye if anything given his intelligence and experience advantage.

There are millions of times where Popeye has gotten the crap beat out of him from Bluto, Brutus, and more before he had enough and used his strength, hax, and intelligence to get him out of many situations.

How can Daewi whoop him if he can’t even get past Popeye’s regeneration and immortality? And sure Daewi has got his own healing and help from Haetae, but what difference is it going to make if Popeye can just one shot either one of them with hax?

Honestly Daewi’s all of hax or even Haetae isn’t going to be effective at all on Popeye while Popeye legit can one-shot with hax. You’re making it seem like just because Daewi has the AP advantage and “better hax” makes this a stomp and there’s nothing Popeye can do which couldn’t be further from the truth. Popeye literally cannot be killed in this scenario, has better LS, only has to get a hit on his opponent, has prior knowledge, has a major intelligence advantage, can warp the battle field with BFR since it corrupts the animation frame, and has an infinite amount of stamina in this situation via making more spinach which automatically refills his stamina. Popeye has every advantage other than AP in this scenario and you’re making it seem like it’s a massive stomp.

Popeye can win with his hax, but considering this is prior knowledge Daewi, he's not going to let Popeye hit him even once. Daewi is not Mori, he is was more calculative and will think his options over before attacking. He can warp space as a barrier so Popeye won't touch him until spinach buff wears off.

Like I just said, Popeye has an intelligence advantage and isn’t just going to let the prior knowledge he has of Daewi pass by. Popeye can just corrupt the animation frame if Daewi decides to warp himself a barrier (which would put them in an infinite stalemate if he decided to keep the barrier up the whole fight) Also Popeye can ALWAYS make more spinach.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Why the heck did we even allow someone with Low-Godly into the tourney if he's just going to outlast everyone?

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Why the heck did we even allow someone with Low-Godly into the tourney if he's just going to outlast everyone?

I think there were several other characters with Low-Godly however people changed what characters they wanted. Also it never said that characters with Low-godly couldn’t be in the tourney and many characters can probably bypass the regen with particular hax. Also the fight would be the same if Popeye had mid-high regen (which many characters in this tourney do)

 

[Sir_Ovens]

No it wouldn't because Daewi could just vaporise Popeye on a sub-atomic level if he had Mid-High.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

No it wouldn't because Daewi could just vaporise Popeye on a sub-atomic level if he had Mid-High.

Ok true but Popeye might get ko’d by characters in the future that have the hax to bypass his regen.

 

[Comiphorous]

what im taking from this, he cant get by popeye's Low-godly, and its going to be nigh impossible for him to incap popeye too...

 

[TechPrime0920]

Why the heck did we even allow someone with Low-Godly into the tourney if he's just going to outlast everyone?

I don't think Popeye can really outlast everyone on the tournament, that's why I allowed him
There are other characters that also have regeneration on this tournament

 

[Comiphorous]

Ashen one, SoC, Four, Courage, Eternal Champion, Popeye, Cell, Dabura, Mori Jin and Daewi Han all have Regeneration

:|

 

[Comiphorous]

Most of them with pretty high Regen too, i believe most of them are varying in mid to high

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Wait, can't Daewi just BFR Popeye? He has the range to do it. He just has to send Popeye to Jupiter's orbit.

 

[joshpiece]

Wait, can't Daewi just BFR Popeye? He has the range to do it. He just has to send Popeye to Jupiter's orbit.

With prior knowledge I think that’s a fair win con

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Wait, can't Daewi just BFR Popeye? He has the range to do it. He just has to send Popeye to Jupiter's orbit.

But like we said earlier, Popeye isn’t just going to let that happen with prior knowledge and a major intelligence advantage. Popeye uses his spinach to boost his intelligence and strategically outmaneuvers Daewi to get one hit (that’s all he needs) to use transmutation, deconstruction, hypnosis, etc. Plus Daewi isn’t going to have time to do that when the literal animation frame is corrupting all around him trying to BFR him. Despite how clever, strong, and ability heavy Daewi is, there’s no way he’s going to LS throw him that quickly when he’s got everything else to worry about. Plus what’s stopping Popeye from doing the same after he attempts to BFR him.

Basically what I’m saying is Daewi is going to have to worry about saving himself from being BFR’d and haxed to do anything about getting rid of Popeye. Popeye isn’t just going to sit around and do something stupid (neither is Daewi) but with the intelligence advantage and prior knowledge Popeye possess, he’s gonna figure out that he’s going to need to use major hax to kill off Daewi right off the bat. There’s also the fact that spinach buffed Popeye goes straight for the kill, so he’d probably use BFR right off the bat (Again, especially having prior knowledge and knowing that his best chance of throwing off his opponent is going straight for the deadliest stuff to do so)

 

[Sir_Ovens]

The fact that Daewi doesn't have to touch Popeye and just has to think to telekinetically launch him into the stratosphere? This and Haetae then potentially just blasting him away with a mouth laser?