Lance Crown and the Host of the Wind Spirit Sylph (Lance vs Yuno)

[Arkenis]

Probably, but the main discussion is about if Lance can get a hit on Yuno

Only through Seconth spells for mid/high tiers

High tiers are 6-B though we may have some 6-A-High 6-A God tiers

any good matter manip?

 

[AnAverageUsername]

any good matter manip?

For whom? For Lance or for God tiers?

Well if its the former, does erasing space and sending anything back to the void as EE count?

 

[Arkenis]

For whom? For Lance or for God tiers?

Well if its the former, does erasing space and sending anything back to the void as EE count?

not good enough.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

any good matter manip?

No
Whats the verse? DGM?

 

[Arkenis]

No
Whats the verse? DGM?

anyway who's the guy who regenerated and picked up his head in mashle, u make a page for him?

 

[Arnoldstone18]

I didn't say that Lance could react, maybe I forgot to say it, but generally Wizards in Mashle take extreme beatings like having multiple fractured bones and damaged organs, so I was mainly implying that Lance could maybe take enough hits before he can cast Graviole. Also, is there a delay between Yuno's spells?

Yeah but spirit storm is a continuous blast that would engulf Lance. Since Mana Zone is raising the 5.4x gap even higher won’t this fight end in 1 or 2 hits?

I mean Lance is getting damaged continuously as he is engulfed within Spirit Storm. That’s why I said it ends in 1 spirit storm hit. I don’t think Lance will get back up easily, and if he is trying to get back up there is nothing stopping Yuno from finishing him off with virtually any attack.

Eh, as stated above, wizards can take deadly beatings and still keep fighting.

yeah but has Lance even been beaten by someone >5.4x superior? The mole with those boxing gloves seems comparable or ever so slightly superior to Lance. But I don’t think there is anyone who has given Lance that much of a beating. I don’t think you can compare a couple of tankable punches to torso to a greatly superior and continuous blast to the entire body. I am not saying you are comparing those two but still you’ve not said what kind of beating Lance can take comparable to an amped spirit storm.

Even if Lance is alive or not KO-ed, at most he will physically struggle to get back up allowing Yuno to finish him off.

I can say that's smart, though how long would it take for Yuno to resort to that?

Oh he doesn’t need to use that, it’s just an added bonus to ensure his victory here.

also I have no idea when he would resort to After image but Yuno will see Lance struggling to get up and finishes him off with basically any thing. Although I strongly believe one spirit storm is enough to incapacitate if not kill Lance.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

anyway who's the guy who regenerated and picked up his head in mashle, u make a page for him?

Yeah, Delisaster, he is one of the main antagonists. His regen is something like Mid to Low High, but I can even see some possibly for being far higher

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Yeah but spirit storm is a continuous blast that would engulf Lance. Since Mana Zone is raising the 5.4x gap even higher won’t this fight end in 1 or 2 hits?

Eh, maybe, but if Lance does have the possibility of surviving just a little while, could he perhaps use Graviole to push away the spell? Since Graviole isn't just limited to slamming the target into the ground, but also forcing gravity to switch directions

I mean Lance is getting damaged continuously as he is engulfed within Spirit Storm. That’s why I said it ends in 1 spirit storm hit. I don’t think Lance will get back up easily, and if he is trying to get back up there is nothing stopping Yuno from finishing him off with virtually any attack.

Yeah, I saw what the attack looks like and I understand why you're saying it ends in one hit. Though, I don't know if I've asked this, does Yuno start off with it right away as his first attack?

yeah but has Lance even been beaten by someone >5.4x superior? The mole with those boxing gloves seems comparable or ever so slightly superior to Lance. But I don’t think there is anyone who has given Lance that much of a beating. I don’t think you can compare a couple of tankable punches to torso to a greatly superior and continuous blast to the entire body. I am not saying you are comparing those two but still you’ve not said what kind of beating Lance can take comparable to an amped spirit storm.

Eh, hard to say. Charles and Lance were both Divine Visionary candidates, so it's hard to say if they were superior to eachother or not. though when Lance brought out the Secondths, he won instantly. He was only held back by his Sister-Complex.

Even if Lance is alive, at least he will physically struggle to get back up allowing Yuno to finish him off.

Yeah I'd say it would be a struggle if Yuno started with that.

Oh he doesn’t need to use that, it’s just an added bonus to ensure his victory here.

also I have no idea when he would resort to After image but Yuno will see Lance struggling to get up and finishes him off with basically any thing. Although I strongly believe one spirit storm is enough to incapacitate if not kill Lance.

I see. Well I will wait for Life of King ti find the motivation to make coherent counter arguments. I'm currently busy though, so I'll count you as a vote.

 

[Arkenis]

Yeah, Delisaster, he is one of the main antagonists. His regen is something like Mid to Low High, but I can even see some possibly for being far higher

could I see his page or sandbox if u have one made?

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Maybe giving Lance prior knowledge would have made this match less apparently one sided

 

[Arnoldstone18]

This match is not one sided at all

Lance has the abilities to one shot Yuno and vice versa

giving one of them any advantage would make this match a stomp

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

could I see his page or sandbox if u have one made?

I don't have a sandbox for him for now

But you can have sure that he can solos bc

 

[Arkenis]

Yeah I could see Lance winning tbh. the gravity hax is good, has greater LS, can easily teleport to evade attacks faster than him. his torture pole can be useful unless yuno has some wide sweeping power null but other than that it's kinda hard to say who wins outright.

 

[Arkenis]

But you can have sure that he can solos bc

 

[AnAverageUsername]

This match is not one sided at all

Lance has the abilities to one shot Yuno and vice versa

giving one of them any advantage would make this match a stomp

Ah, it just sounded one sided because of how things were worded. Either that, or I misread again

 

[AnAverageUsername]

This is why we have Innocent Zero

Yeah I could see Lance winning tbh. the gravity hax is good, has greater LS, can easily teleport to evade attacks faster than him. his torture pole can be useful unless yuno has some wide sweeping power null but other than that it's kinda hard to say who wins outright.

So who are you voting for? Or are you voting an incon?

 

[Arkenis]

This is why we have Innocent Zero

So who are you voting for? Or are you voting an incon?

Want others opinions. so far its just been u and Arnold mostly

 

[Arnoldstone18]

can easily teleport to evade attacks faster than him

When has this happened?

 

[Arkenis]

Cool ass guy

 

[AnAverageUsername]

When has this happened?

I think this may be confusion, but Lance can teleport. It just hasn't been seen in combat and was used to teleport to a cliff from Easton.

 

[Arkenis]

When has this happened?

I mean teleportation tends to be that way is what I'm more so rerferring to, tends to take a simple reaction to something and boom you're hundreds of meters away. Lance just seems to do it rather fast as well though that wasn't even in battle.

Pic for reference

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

The teleport is not combat applicable

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Ah, it just sounded one sided because of how things were worded. Either that, or I misread again

It’s probably just my debating style. One can one shot the other.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

It’s probably just my debating style. One can one shot the other.

I guess why this match is fun. Its perfectly even and just comes down to circumstance, right?

 

[Arnoldstone18]

precisely

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

But you can have sure that he can solos bc

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I exaggerated a bit ngl

 

[Arkenis]

Yeah I mean both verses are pretty strong. The devils hearts are prob the main issue Mashle characters would have prob.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Yeah I mean both verses are pretty strong. The devils hearts are prob the main issue Mashle characters would have prob.

Just add Finn in the match and they become trivial.

 

[Deceived3596]

The devils hearts are prob the main issue Mashle characters would have prob.

You know who it wouldn't be an issue to?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Wanked fodder

 

[Deceived3596]

Wanked fodder

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[Arkenis]

Wanked fodder

Sound upset Allen solos Lashle

 

[AnAverageUsername]

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Are you going to vote?

 

[Deceived3596]

Are you going to vote?

I'm currently neutral, but leaning towards Lance.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

I'm currently neutral, but leaning towards Lance.

Huh, would you like to state your reasonings?

 

[Deceived3596]

Huh, would you like to state your reasonings?

I'm leaning towards thinking Lance would active his Gravity Manipulation and crush Yuno before Yuno can kill Lance, but on the same token Yuno could kill Lance before he can get his Gravity Manipulation off with his Wind Magic + Mana Zone.

That's why i'm currently indecisive but slightly leaning towards Lance.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Thanks for the explanation, really helpful. Should more Black Clover supporters be called in to get more activity?

 

[Arkenis]

Thanks for the explanation, really helpful. Should more Black Clover supporters be called in to get more activity?

Yeah.

 

[Arkenis]

I voted for Yuno btw.