Since this is the correct thread, I want to repost my case for the crossover scaling of AP for certain Konosuba characters.
First, simple context for the Alice's reactor:
"[Final Report]
Agent 6 has succeeded in damaging the relations between the Kingdom of Grace and one of its neighbors."
The said neighboring country mentioned above:
"We left Grace Kingdom in the early morning and arrived at the foreign nation of Toris just when the sun was setting. "
CWBD V2, Ch2.
Early morning definition: 6-9 a.m [
https://wgntv.com/weather/how-do-you-define-daytime-and-evening-times-in-a-weather-forecast/ ]
So it took around 10 hours of a car trip to
just one of the neighboring nations, Toris. With 10 hours you can drive all over France.
The blast would destroy the Kingdom of Grace, and
all the neighboring countries as already mentioned:
Oh? Is that how you want to play? All right then, give it your best shot. Even if you do manage to take me out, my generator will detonate, and this kingdom, as well as every neighboring nation, will be caught in the blast.”
-CWBD V5, Final Chapter.
In comparison the Tsar Bomb which is considered 7-B/7-A can hardly do anything to France:
So at the very least Alice's 6-B, Country Level, no? And if we go with the lowest estimate, that there're only two neighbors due to the plural, Toris and another one, and the other was from around the same distance, we would have at least 3 Frances being destroyed, and that's ignoring the actual size of the countries, and including only the distance it takes to travel between them.
And Lilith is Alice's creator, she made her reactor and other androids, there's no reason she doesn't have access to her own technology. So I'd say Lilith is definitely 6-B as well.
Another thing is the fact that Lilith is more powerful than the entire Kisaragi Organization if we exclude the other two Supreme Leaders, that despite Kisaragi being more powerful than all countries combined:
Combatants Will Be Dispatched!, Vol. 1
Currently, there are no countries that can overthrow this large organization with military strength. Although there is some resistance economically, it’s only a matter of time before it’s resolved.
Combatants Will Be Dispatched!, Vol. 5
While more agents start nodding in agreement, Alice throws a wrench into the plan.
“Requesting the assistance of the Supreme Leaders is a no-go. The report we recently sent resulted in more punishment for Lady Lilith. Finally fed up, she threw a fit and launched a rebellion. She’s been calling on mutants and agents to join her but hasn’t received any support so far, so she’s holed up by herself. Since only another Supreme Leader can deal with her, we won’t get any help from them until they have her under control.”
And we have a clear comparison between the Kisaragi Corporation, Lilith, and Konosuba.
Agent 22's job was to set the invasion of the Konosuba planet, Vanir finds this out with his power, and despite knowing of Kisaragi's power, which includes them being at least country level, he dismiss them as nothing relevant, mocking Agent 22 and leaving:
I’ve been living in the current location for five weeks. The strangeness of this planet is on another level. On a certain day, a mask-wearing, sturdy-looking man saw right through my identity. He said to me, “You took the trouble to come from such a faraway place, being a spy must be difficult.” I don’t know how he found out. I had no choice but to fire at him so that he could never speak of this. I was certain that I fired a bullet into the mask-wearing man’s heart, but that giant man wasn’t the least bit bothered while he laughed loudly as he left.
CWBD SS
We have also Lilith's interaction with an Angel, a servant of the Gods, of which Aqua had many working for her:
“ーAnd that’s why I was such an important person in heaven and regarded so highly. I had many angels reporting to me, and every day I was waited on hand and foot. I could get any sort of snacks and drinks that I wanted, and as many of them as I wanted. It really was a wonderful time.”
Konosuba Yorimichi.
“What’s wrong, Lady Lilith? You’re the sort who’d pick your nose and shrug if God himself came down and started lecturing you, right?”
“What the hell, Six?! No, I wouldn’t pick my nose. I mean, you can feel it, can’t you? Aren’t your instincts telling you that thing isn’t something humanity should be insulting…?”
Likely reaching the same conclusion I have, Lilith begins looking around nervously.
“Hey, Six, why don’t we head back to Earth? I feel like this planet’s got too many potential problems.
Between an angel—a being connected to the very creation of the universe—appearing at random and extremely advanced tech being hidden underground, I think we’re in over our heads."
CWBD V4, Ch2.
And Lilith continues:
While I wheel along the despairing Grimm, Lilith is lecturing Alice behind me.
“Listen to me, Alice. You’re an android, so I know you don’t have it, but people have this thing called instinct. And that was a presence that people simply cannot challenge. It’s brave to stand up to the powerful, but that was on a completely different level.”
CWBD V4, Ch2.
If it wasn't clear enough that Gods scale above the angel, the angel states herself to be a servant of the gods:
“I had only come to this doomed world on a whim. However…if you insist on committing this act of blasphemy upon a servant of the gods" CWBD V4, Ch2.
The author's intentions were very clear, he portrays the entities from Heaven and Hell as more powerful than country level Kisaragi.
Vanir or Aqua never displays this level of power, but we have to keep in mind that Aqua's powers are far from her peak, and Vanir doesn't use his true form, of which he fought the Gods in the past and didn't even lost a life, since he became Vanir II after being killed by Megumin, and the lore is that he shouldn't be a General of the Demon King because he's too powerful, fighting the Gods, while the Demon King only fight humans:
Konosuba V1
I might’ve fallen into the mortal world, causing my powers to be far from my peak, but I’m still a goddess…
Konosuba V17
Also, now that I’ve returned to Heaven, I’ll be able to use the full extent of my goddess power from now on. So you better watch how you treat me, otherwise you might receive divine punishment.”
Vanir Spinoff
Even though we had come to slay the Demon King’s general, we never thought that we would encounter an opponent of this level…
The figure before us is a duke-class devil, a great devil that had once fought against the gods with the future of the world at stake.
This type of existence shouldn’t be the subordinate under the Demon King that only fought against humans, but…!
So I'd say we make a separate key for the such of Aqua (full Goddess power) and Vanir (real body) as being at least 6-B, with the reason being: they're more powerful than Lilith and the Kisaragi Coorporation.
It's reasonable to assume the same applies to Eris as well, and her Goddess key gets the same update.
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