From what I can see, Dante exists in an entirely different flow of time from the base world. This means that if Bites the Dust was used, only Kira would be reversed, leaving him without recollection of the past hour.
Maybe, but considering how it initially blitzed Jotaro I wouldn't be surprised if it could pull a surprise attack on Dante. Not saying it's the be all end all, but just that if it went off, it would be over for Dante.
It's his first key, so like 8-C.
As lad just said, resisting time res, doesn't mean much if it isn't you being affected. It'd be like arguing a dude deconstructing the floor wouldn't be useful because the foe has deconstruction res. Attack ain't targetting him to begin with. Not like it matters though, the time manip isn't the good part, the fate+transmutation aspect is what actually kills dudes.
Kira retains memory of the first activation. It's only when it goes off when BTD is no longer with on repeated usages, does he not retain memory of it.
Can Dante even see it.
Hm
I know, I'm just saying Dante probably wouldn't have his actions reversed if BTD was activated, since it says demons like him exist in a separate flow of time. It doesn't matter overall though since BTD isn't even available to Kira here.
He gets NPI with souls, so I don't think its impossible. I don't know how layered it is though.
NPI and ESP don't inherently scale together. Even if Dante could interact with it, he still might not be able to see it. Same for the other way around too, being able to see it might not mean he could interact with it.
Its his physiology doesnt he just have access to all low tier?
Yeah, but I was just wondering if just a normal death would suffice for Kira to win. Keep in mind, I don't know anything about DMC, but after looking at all the low tier Demon abilities, it sounds like that Demon's don't really exist in the physical realm but just inhabit bodies there. So, it seems like Dante would just die, come back, die, come back, over and over and over again unless we just want to say one death is enough for him to lose. Although I don't even know if he would die in the first place, since he has low-godly regen which can save him from being completely exploded by Killer Queen.
How does this work?
Not if it isn't layered, you can't hear, see, or sense a Stand otherwise unless they interact with something, but like no shit you'd know something is there if Plat punched out a wall.
Contact based transmutation that evaporates the body and destroys the soul without a trace. Works on anything it touches, but can also skip that step by having something he touched be touched instead, moving the "charge" from object A to B, like a coin, doorknob, etc.
Basically. Also there's Sheer Heart Attack, which is a remote bomb created from Kira's hand (I believe left hand?). It is autonomous and will track the closest object with the highest heat signature before exploding. It is also extremely durable, especially in this fight where it would be nigh-indestructible to Dante.
This would not kill Dante at all, you need to erase his name to affect or destroy his soul
"and destroys the soul without a trace." - literally what you quoted
He needs to destroy his name or affect his name to do that, basically Dantes name would be like a barrier that just tells Killer Queen to **** off
You said, "or", this feels like backpedal.
He gets vaporized, his name remains so he reforms and kicks his ass since now he is resistant to Killer Queen.
With what regen? Go give him High regen if you want to argue that.
Immortality Type 9 and Low Godly?? Dante is a demon?? Hello??
First key? Low tier demon physiology is only low godly via possession.
Yeah and Killer Queen lacks a means to stop Dante from reforming with it.
No he doesn't. The Rel punch ghost can literally just blow up everything he even attempts to use. And if it isn't quick enough anyway, it'd count as incap.
If it isn't literally magnitudes quicker than his own combat speed, it's useless.
KQ isn't really a sentient Stand (it is in JJ tho), SHA is but it runs on automated rules, and "Immense Will" that explicitly scales above everyone in the Morioh Group, stops stuff like pretty potent fear manip thanks to upscaling dudes who have supwill that negs such things.
You just gave reason why he wouldn't. Kira's killing intent, and Killer Queen, are not the same thing. I mentioned that above even, who cares if he can sense Kira's bloodlust if Kira himself isn't actually doing anything.
They're also exponentially quicker and can dodge or transmutate every bullet. He also has coins as standard equipment, and is prone to setting up stuff as bombs to attack outside his range.
Analyitical prediction of something he can't see or sense?
He upscales dudes who aren't effected by fear aura who paralyze and cripple those who already have supernatural will. He'd be fine.
Getting a lucky shot while avoiding a 7 ton bomb and a thing that's 128x quicker that can vaporize every attack or bullet is kinda tough lad.
To know. What layers would Dante need in order to see and interact with the Stand?
Based on what's accepted, at least +1 for both.
