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Kevin VS Jigsaw: A cancer patient attempts to murder an eight year old

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Both are physically 10-C with five days of prep time.

Yeah that's it lol

A grown man gets the shit beaten out of him by an eight year old:

A grown man beats the shit out of an eight year old: 2

A grown man and an eight year old beat the shit out of each other: 1
 
The setting. Ex. CC vs Kevin had a setting, where CC had to kill Kevin during the night, Kevin was inside his house etc.
 
I think Kevin will be the one who goes through Jigsaw's traps more quickly. If he can get to Jigsaw without ******* dying, he can kill Jigsaw pretty easily.
 
Ehhhh.... I don't think so. He's smart, but, if adults have trouble with this, I doubt he's gonna get out of this one. Same applies to Jigsaw though. He's extremely slow. Kevin easily works around that and blows his brains out with a hand-made pendulum or something.
 
Kevin is, like, a genius, though. He also has knowledge on traps.

It also depends on who goes through first. If Kevin is smart and waits for Kramer to come to him, even if Kramer gets through, Kevin can kill him pretty easily.
 
He has prep, which if we assume he has time, he can get all that stuff put up before he is unable to more. Or he could just hold Billy the Puppet, or any gun, and just kill Kevin when Kevin has to come to him.
 
...of course, this is assuming Kevin can get to him before he ******* dies

Also, Jigsaw doesn't directly kill people IC
 
Well the battle takes place at the end of his life, but logically the prep would take place before that.
 
Seems like that is kinda cheap ngl, choosing what part of life he is in. I mean he was going to live at the end of Saw 3 if he hadn't had his neck slit, but still. He was in a wheel chair and needed help setting things up from his apprentices.
 
But you are making a lot of dictations which kinda make this a bit messy though, like stating John before his operation and is going to die, giving a man who was in a wheel chair prep and then saying John will not kill people directly (and which it is technically true, as detective Tapp lived from having his throat slit, and while John states this himself, that slice he did to Tapp would have killed him), etc. Plus this is SBA, meaning John will be willing to kill Kevin, so killing him directly is an option (even though it already was). John, while is physically dying, he will likely be able to manipulate Kevin, who often had a change of heart for the people who scared him in the first two films when they started talking to him. Another thing that John has going for him is that he knows people so well. John has stated that he puts traps, and plans everything out so meticulously, that when partnered with his knowledge of the human mental state, makes it where all outcomes aren't left up to chance. He knows how it will playout, and this was even used in the films to created multiple games far far far after his death. While it didn't stop his own death, he had planned that out as well. Every possible action Kevin will take would have been methodically thought out by John, and while it isn't to the point of Precog or reading body movements, he knows what Kevin will do which allows him the chance to manipulate the boy and get him close enough to stab, or again use a gun or just have Billy, which if Kevin even approaches will send massive bits of shrapnel into his face and kill the boy. John also can just set up various shotgun traps even though he is bound to a wheel chair, which should easily take out a kid who was never the most agile or studious. Trips a line in his haste to kill an old man and BOOM a kid dies. Also the poison would be relatively easy to set up as well, and again, he has the antidote. John isn't going to chase Kevin, Kevin will have to come to him. John was bed ridden going by what you are going by. So his only defense physically is words, and probably the explosive Billy the Puppet. Bombs are also easy to set up, as they are already made. They would kill the kid as well. As for saying Kevin is a genius, no, defiantly not. A decent trap maker, yeah, but doesn't mean he will see a thin hidden trip wire or know a puppet will explode. Also he is a scaredy cat, so this entire situation will throw him off greatly. John could also set up a door that will only open if Kevin wears a shot-gun collar, and could also rather easily make it where if Kevin tried to approach him, the shot-gun collar would explode, or if Kramer flat-lined it would explode. Other traps could be similar to Pound of Flesh, where if Kevin wanted to kill Kramer he would have to cut of part of himself. Eyehole Magnums would also be relatively easy to set up. John could also have acid set up to dunk on Kevin if he does certain things. There are so many options that would be quite easy for even wheel chair Kramer to do I have to give it to him.
 
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