Kagura (SK) vs Cole MacGrath

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

I'll switch to Evil Cole if this turns out to be unfair.

Kagura (Senran Kagura) (Final Key) vs Cole MacGrath (Second Key)

Win via KO, incapacitation, or death. SPEED EQUALIZED

Kagura's AP: 2.85 gigatons

Cole's AP: 2.09 gigatons

 

[Schnee_One]

Hmm.......

Kagura has a very solid advantage in AP considering the difference in how casual her feat was compared to Cole's, she's a better fighter, and her Danmaku is comparable in terms of range.

Cole beats her out pretty well in terms of versatility as well as actual range, plus has really good Regenerationn.

IDK

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Bump

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Using projectiles usually is a bad thing against Cole. Being a better fighter should be negated by the fact that lightning really likes to make you dance like a giddy idjat.

Curious about telekinesis though.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Using projectiles usually is a bad thing against Cole.

You're going to have to elaborate a lot more than that. We're talking about a danmaku-amount of large, reality warped shards with kilometers of range all seeking out and impaling him. Some as large as buildings.

"Using projectiles against him is a bad idea" is not going to cut it.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

>Large as buildings

Ooof

I mean I'm just generalizing it and waiting for a response now. But to detail, he can absorb projectiles with his shields. From lasers, bullets and ice bolts. Building sized projectiles is a no-no.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Apologies, "building-sized" may have been overselling it. I've added a link to her using them in a cutscene. Still, quite a bit larger than bullets or lasers. Plus they're reality warped constructs, probably not something that can be absorbed.

There are gifs of some of her other attacks in her gallery too.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Damn those are some awesome shots. Yeah anything bigger than Cole's shield he'll likely just have to dodge. Realty warped constructs as in physical things or energy?

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

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[Arrogant_Schmuck]

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[Arrogant_Schmuck]

I guess I should answer your question, yeah? Honestly it's not really made clear what exactly they are. The SK Wiki describes them as swords, blades, rifts, beams, etc.

Btw here are a couple more clips of her attacks.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Yeah was waiting for that.

Anyway those are tough combos for Cole since he can't block most of em with shields. AP advantage hurts. But Cole does have the lightning storm to fall back on to rain from afar. But even then she's strong and has danmaku.

Voting tie.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

They both have the same range and she loves to spam danmaku. If lightning storm is a last resort it could be too little too late; she also has forcefields of her own to help with the lightning strikes.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Lightning Storm really isn't a last resort though.

 

[Schnee_One]

Forcefields don't block lightning storm, they actively bypass shields

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Well still, really, it's pretty much got to be his opening move or else he's going to be bombarded with projectiles he can't block with his shields according to Ciruno. His page says Lightning Storm can destroy barriers after hitting them once, but it doesn't say it can straight up ignore them. And she can have another one up without any cooldown. Teleportation as well can help her avoid lightning strikes.

 

[Schnee_One]

Ciruno said if the Projectiles are extremely large, some of the projectiles aren't that big.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

I didn't say he can't block all attacks. Also Cole can still dodge too for any bigger ones or use shockwaves to push himself away. Having a range advantage makes large projectiles easier to predict.

Also lightning storm is continuous. Have to be able to resist a lot of heat in order to succeed on that.

Also teleportation is nice but Cole has also dealt with teleporters.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Ciruno said if the Projectiles are extremely large, some of the projectiles aren't that big.

They're also not that small. The description of Polarity Wall/Shield says it can stop bullets. Plus, a danmaku amount of projectiles, not to mention at a decently higher AP?

Having a range advantage makes large projectiles easier to predict.

They're both several kilometers.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Cole's sheilds can also stop rockets I'm pretty sure.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Ciruno said if the Projectiles are extremely large, some of the projectiles aren't that big.

Also, assuming you're talking about this one



Those are still about the size of her body.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Bump

 

[DMUA]

If Cole really had to he could probably just crouch behind his shield. Nothing really stopping him from using that tactic besides Game Mechanics

Even if he can't really use his shield, he has shockwaves to reflect projectiles pretty well

Kagura definitely has plenty of firepower but I don't know if they can end the fight with a single attack like Cole can with his Class G restraining grenades

 

[Schnee_One]

TBF Kagura is casually stronger then Cole going all out with Lightning

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Still going on a tie here with all those reasoning

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

I don't think shockwaves are deflecting projectiles that size besides maybe the ones in the most recently posted gif

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

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[Arrogant_Schmuck]

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[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Bump

 

[DMUA]

Cole is going to be 7-B again so if we're finishing this thread we'd need to do so at the speed of fast

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Did lightning math get rejected?

 

[DMUA]

Horribly

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

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