Jujutsu Kaisen - Scale

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Why is Hanami rated physically lower than Jogo?

Jogo physically is Large Town

EDIT: Okay sorry, I forgot about Jogo's Tier. He is 7-A

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

And it has also been stated that Jogo is much stronger than Hanami

 

[Arkenis]

No

That's definitely not tanking, her back gets destroyed from that.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Errrr... Definitely scale. She after that attack literally fights for 2 chapters

 

[RageComment]

Hey it might be a bit extra, but should we have Keys for everyone without their Cursed Energy?
Like their base since the series does make distinctions between what characters can do when amp'd or not.
Also different characters have different base physical stats?

 

[RageComment]

But back to Nobara, getting KO'd by Mai's Rubber Bullet is a pretty huge anti-feat.
Also I think Eso's attacks are more hax than AP

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Hey it might be a bit extra, but should we have Keys for everyone without their Cursed Energy?

Nha, doing this is basically making a key with all the DB characters without Ki

 

[RageComment]

Nha, doing this is basically making a key with all the DB characters without Ki

I'd actually love that.
But with JJK it actually makes more sense because we are often given a sense of who is where physically without CE

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

But back to Nobara, getting KO'd by Mai's Rubber Bullet is a pretty huge anti-feat.

Mai's weapons are much stronger than normal ones. Come on, she could hurt Maki

 

[RageComment]

Mai amps her weapon bullets, but I don't see them as Large Town Level.
I don't see her Durability as Large Town Level.
I don't see Maki's hand to hand as Large Town Level
I don't see Maki's Durability as Large Town level.

I guess I just disagree with this whole scaling perspective.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Mai amps her weapon bullets, but I don't see them as Large Town Level.

Bro, this is fiction. Weapons are usually much stronger than usual. This character for exemple use a normal weapons in the verse, but his weapons is Building Level via feats

I don't see Maki's hand to hand as Large Town Level
I don't see Maki's Durability as Large Town level.

Maki >> Megumi about phisically

 

[Nullflowerblush]

No

Except there was no power behind that attack. It was a corrosive poison.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Except there was no power behind that attack. It was a corrosive poison.

Eso used this attack on Itadori even knowing that the poison is not effective, so probably the attack has destructive power

 

[Arkenis]

Also, @RageComment life of king made a calc for maki with her pc being mcb half into small town lvl, It's really not too far fetched that they would scale this high. with curse energy at least.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Eso used this attack on Itadori even knowing that the poison is not effective, so probably the attack has destructive power

Eso knowing that Yuji was unaffected by his poison at that point seems unlikely, given he believed the technique worked and gave both Yuji and Nobara estimates on their times of death.

 

[Arkenis]

The attack doesn't seem to be power based at all, him using it on yuji doesn't have to be based on power. It still causes pain from the poison so it still would be useful to catch yuji off guard.

Eso knowing that Yuji was unaffected by his poison at that point seems unlikely, given he believed the technique worked and gave both Yuji and Nobara estimates on their times of death.

this, he also just blatantly asks "How can you move". So he doesn't know if it effected or didn't.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Eso knowing that Yuji was unaffected by his poison at that point seems unlikely, given he believed the technique worked and gave both Yuji and Nobara estimates on their times of death.

I am referring to this scene

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Okay, if nobody is convinced by my proposal I think the best option is "Unknown" in Nobara durability

 

[Arkenis]

Should be fine. Although her being a second grade she should scale to other second grades shouldn't she?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Oh, forget what I said. Nobara able to takes attack from Nishimiya. Nishimiya is comparable to Panda via Nobara's statement

 

[Arkenis]

yea should be ok.

 

[RageComment]

Oh, forget what I said. Nobara able to takes attack from Nishimiya. Nishimiya is comparable to Panda via Nobara's statement

Not comparable at all.
Her being tossed by Panda during training does not scale to Panda's actual cursed energy strikes.

Nobara is not saying Nishimiya is comparable to Panada. She's saying she is used to having to roll and land on her feet from being blown away or thrown away.

 

[RageComment]

Also, @RageComment life of king made a calc for maki with her pc being mcb half into small town lvl, It's really not too far fetched that they would scale this high. with curse energy at least.

Maki with the Playful Cloud sure, but not the kick she did to Mai, not only would she be holding back, but she's also not using a top tier cursed weapon.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Not comparable at all.
Her being tossed by Panda during training does not scale to Panda's actual cursed energy strikes.

Nobara is not saying Nishimiya is comparable to Panada. She's saying she is used to having to roll and land on her feet from being blown away or thrown away.

She literally says that she is used to Panda's attacks and compares Nishimiya's cursed energy

 

[RageComment]

She literally says that she is used to Panda's attacks and compares Nishimiya's cursed energy

That's not what she said.
That is an inappropriate usage of the word Literal.
She says "I'm used to being tossed around!"

Which corresponds with her training of being used to rolling on her feet or being tossed from attacks.
Not tanking blows.

 

[Arkenis]

The statement is being kinda misinterpreted on your part @LIFE_OF_KING , it does just talk about her being able to keep getting up after being tossed and hit. It just seems like more of an endurance thing than durability to momo. Also momo is holding back up til that statement. So it's pretty quantifiable if momo scales to regular panda.

 

[RageComment]

I also don't think Miwa scales to Maki.
Maki wasn't using Playful Cloud so she wasn't at her strongest.
She's also trying not to kill.
Miwa was 100% on the defensive the entire time.
She even says if this wasn't a nonlethal fight, she would have gotten killed (1-shotted) twice.

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Maki's calc is too flawed, and I don't expect it to be accepted. It assumes a semi-spherical explosion that rose to the heaven, when it is just Hanami being pushed forward toward the river.

It is not like Panda was punching Nobara and sending her flying. She is just used to Panda carrying her and tossing her; they could be doing this for fun for all we know.

Also, are we forgetting that full-body amps is something exclusive to elite Sorcerers?
Normally sorcerers just focus the energy into their fists or a weapon, which makes the Mai rubber bullet a big anti-feat.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Also, are we forgetting that full-body amps is something exclusive to elite Sorcerers?

Sorcerers are actually able to protect the body with energy, but the difference is that a supreme grade sorcerers is able to make the energy flow through the entire body simultaneously

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

And well, I agree to "Unknown" for the Nobara durability

 

[Gitagon]

I still feel the physicals are clear as day.

Most characters physicals consist of body + curse energy. Simply possessing cursed energy gives curse users an amp over normal humans.

We already have a chat for both physicals and cursed energy for all the students from the author themselves.

With Megumi, its basically 8 + 10 while Nobara is 6 + 7 or something. It's not hard to see why Megumi is more durable even if you ignore all his durability feats.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

And well, I agree to "Unknown" for the Nobara durability

.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Bro, I have accepted that Nobara's durability is not higher than Megumi's a "long time ago"

EDIT: The guy deleted the comment. I am not schizophrenic

 

[Arkenis]

loll

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Can someone summarize the scale here?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Can someone summarize the scale here?

Low-Tier to Mid-Tier = Building to Large Town
High-Tier = Mountain Level
Top-Tier and God-Tier = Likely Large Mountain Level+

Jujutsu Kaisen sandbox

vsbattles.fandom.com

^The scale is on the blog. (The blog will still be updated, but this is basically it)

 

[RageComment]

I don't think this scale has been agreed on though

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Everyone agreed. The only thing that was not agreed upon is the durability of Nobara and Nishimiya comparable to Panda

 

[Dalesean027]

Everyone agreed. The only thing that was not agreed upon is the durability of Nobara and Nishimiya comparable to Panda

Yep also this may be a little nitpicky but on Maki's scale it says his sister instead of "her sister"

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I edited