- 11,561
- 11,002
- Thread starter
- #81
Ok, I see where this discussion is going, an endless cycle
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Jujutsu Kaisen - Scale
- Thread starter LIFE_OF_KING
- Start date
-
- Tags
- jujutsu kaisen
- Status
- 4,932
- 1,662
I'm not talking about his domain. I'm talking about making a normal sized volcano if he's capable of making mutliple according to Nelliels and King.
Also yeah I know the volcanoes are tiny I'm agreeing that's why I posted that link
Also yeah I know the volcanoes are tiny I'm agreeing that's why I posted that link
- 11,561
- 11,002
- Thread starter
- #83
Im going to have to leave. I'll be back in a few hours.
- 1,127
- 369
Oh, he can't do that, they are arguing for him creating a real sized volcano only by Domain Expansion.
Leave that calc for one, we will need CGM or staff input on it, I addressed the other one:
- 4,932
- 1,662
Considering Jogo's whole objective in that battle was hit Sukuna ONCE, I highly doubt a multitude of small attacks would be pointless.
What's with this weird caveat that he can only make a normal sized volcano with his domain? Where is this said? Why're we even trying to argue that domains use the required energy to create their constructs when Gojo has stars in his domain?
What's with this weird caveat that he can only make a normal sized volcano with his domain? Where is this said? Why're we even trying to argue that domains use the required energy to create their constructs when Gojo has stars in his domain?
- 4,477
- 4,551
To respond to the OP:
I think every calc accepted but Jogo's Mountain, Kamo Blackout, and the new Bullet Catching feat for the anime are fine to use. For Black Flash specifically, since this is an attack I feel it best to just have it listed as attack speed with nothing else to add to that.
In terms of Ability:
While I mostly have no issue with the Toge abilities being given, I also think that instead of giving resistance to them, it would just be noted that by protecting your ears with cursed energy you can negate the abilities of cursed speech since that's a weakness to the ability.
I would also hold off on giving Domain Expansion to Geto since while it is said he takes their techniques, I don't think that inherently means he also gains their domain expansion. And Geto does actually lose access to that one curse spirit he had that once had a domain, so unless we're making a key for Pre-Toji fight Geto he wouldn't have it for that cursed spirit he once had.
In regards to Toji, I pretty much disagree with most of the abilities that would be added to him. What happened with him is Possession (a very specific form of possession) but Possession nonetheless. I also think the resistance to death and soul manipulation don't stand since he's not really resisting his soul being manipulated and his body can still die from what he does to kill himself at the end. Past that, I'm fine with the abilities of his weapons and listing his Memory Manipulation resistance as unconventional since it doesn't stop his actual memory from being manipulated it just allows him to ignore one of the effects of having his memory wiped through unconventional physiology.
I think that's pretty much everything.
I think every calc accepted but Jogo's Mountain, Kamo Blackout, and the new Bullet Catching feat for the anime are fine to use. For Black Flash specifically, since this is an attack I feel it best to just have it listed as attack speed with nothing else to add to that.
In terms of Ability:
While I mostly have no issue with the Toge abilities being given, I also think that instead of giving resistance to them, it would just be noted that by protecting your ears with cursed energy you can negate the abilities of cursed speech since that's a weakness to the ability.
I would also hold off on giving Domain Expansion to Geto since while it is said he takes their techniques, I don't think that inherently means he also gains their domain expansion. And Geto does actually lose access to that one curse spirit he had that once had a domain, so unless we're making a key for Pre-Toji fight Geto he wouldn't have it for that cursed spirit he once had.
In regards to Toji, I pretty much disagree with most of the abilities that would be added to him. What happened with him is Possession (a very specific form of possession) but Possession nonetheless. I also think the resistance to death and soul manipulation don't stand since he's not really resisting his soul being manipulated and his body can still die from what he does to kill himself at the end. Past that, I'm fine with the abilities of his weapons and listing his Memory Manipulation resistance as unconventional since it doesn't stop his actual memory from being manipulated it just allows him to ignore one of the effects of having his memory wiped through unconventional physiology.
I think that's pretty much everything.
- 3,814
- 1,199
4-A jujutsu Kaisen confirmed
Arkenis
They/Them- 17,266
- 8,002
Yea so what w
Um this is for Toji abilities and what he shouldn't get. Everything else on him I think is fine.
This is wrong, in the scan u posted Geto is literally manipulating it, you can see him pulling it towards him. So no on him getting resistance to conceptual manip
This was addressed already,
^
Um this is for Toji abilities and what he shouldn't get. Everything else on him I think is fine.
Arkenis
They/Them- 17,266
- 8,002
Who told you they were stars?
- 4,932
- 1,662
Ok what are they? Glowing dots?
- 3,814
- 1,199
Btw guys in regards to speed
This should be calculated
The anime gives the idea it happened around one frame of animation maybe two (Time stamp 1:20)
JJK likely runs in 24 FPS like other Anime so 1/24-2/24 seconds is the timeframe
This should be calculated
The anime gives the idea it happened around one frame of animation maybe two (Time stamp 1:20)
JJK likely runs in 24 FPS like other Anime so 1/24-2/24 seconds is the timeframe
Last edited:
- 1,127
- 369
Black Flash will be addressed later, it's doesn't count as an attack speed and I explained why, he wants to discuss things in order AP->Speed>Abilities.
No, I am not saying he can't do it, I am saying that this doesn't qualify for Conceptual Manipulation.
- 1,127
- 369
I addressed some of those listed abilities:
He doesn't have Mahito's techniques, he just combined his power with the power of other curses and the only thing he can use with that is Uzumaki.
Why conceptual manipulation? Curses are born from cursed energy as a result of negative emotion of regular humans because they can't control cursed energy.
It doesn't qualify as conceptual manipulation.
That's not true, you can still use Jujutsu inside other's Domain but it's not practical because they have an advantage of domains. Cursed techniques were used inside other character's domains many times in JJK.
Why does Toge have Spatial Manipulation in the first place?
Is that attack stated to be Spatial Manipulation?
- 4,477
- 4,551
And I very much disagree with you on this. And I know the order he wanted things gone over, but I wanted to first and foremost go over the OP.
Arkenis
They/Them- 17,266
- 8,002
Arkenis
They/Them- 17,266
- 8,002
That means they have a resistance to powernull dude.
- 4,477
- 4,551
He directly states that the true value of Uzumaki is when he takes a cursed spirity of semi-grade 1 or higher and extracted their cursed technique. He is then shown using Mahito's cursed technique. That's pretty clear cut of Geto now having Mahito's cursed technique.
I actually agree with that and just forgot to mention that I think Conceptual manipulation should go.
The domains do nullify cursed techniques however which is power null. Hence why it has powernull listed. As seen with all domains when battling against Gojo, they all nullify his limitless technique and they are even stated to nullify techniques. Everyone being able to use cursed techniques within them seems to point towards everyone simply having some form of resistance or the powernull only occurring on contact of attacks I think. Either way, that powernull is for sure a thing.
- 4,477
- 4,551
Recommend you roll those changes back, we're not supposed to add stuff to profiles without first doing CRTs, so I say save that in Sandbox and then rollback your changes so as to avoid trouble.
- 1,127
- 369
You are right, I forgot he used that one technique
Well, you will have to prove Black Flash scales to them then.
Gojo literally said that you can use Jujutsu to counter those, and he used it to repel an attack from Jogo. Stated himself, if you can use Jujutsu it means the Power Null is very limited or doesn't exist at all.
- 11,561
- 11,002
- Thread starter
- #104
The difference is that it is something figurative. A Domain Expansion use much Cursed Energy in its creation, Cursed energy is basically the same as normal energy, the more, the stronger the device (In this case, Jujutsu). Besides the fact that when the user died the domain is destroyed. So it is obvious that scale to AP
- 11,561
- 11,002
- Thread starter
- #105
Forget Black Flash and the hax for now. Focus on the AP
- 4,932
- 1,662
Do you know how much energy is needed to make a star much less the ridiculous amount shown in his domain?
- 11,561
- 11,002
- Thread starter
- #108
He did not say it is not usable. These calculations are still debatable
- 11,561
- 11,002
- Thread starter
- #109
Jogo feat
Agree: 7
Disagree: 2
I will count what people think to facilitate the conclusion
Agree: 7
Disagree: 2
I will count what people think to facilitate the conclusion
- 11,561
- 11,002
- Thread starter
- #112
Dagon's calculation everyone agreed. The characters who scalae are in the blog
- 11,561
- 11,002
- Thread starter
- #115
I mean, Jogo's calculation is essential for scale. It's better to settle things about the mountain/vulcan
Ped2018
He/Him- 5,149
- 6,269
I don't agree with this
I don't agree with this too since we don't have enough information about the Finger Bearer's domain
Don't agree with this too and i'm not sure about Jogo having spatial manipulation
Ped2018
He/Him- 5,149
- 6,269
I ALSO STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THIS, I MEAN, DOES THIS EVEN MAKE SOME SENSE?!
- 11,561
- 11,002
- Thread starter
- #118
The discussion is about AP for now. But well, about the Jogo feat, you agree?
It has context. But well, I think that calculation will be discardable
- 11,561
- 11,002
- Thread starter
- #120
This
Not only that, there are reasons that are being discussed. But anyway, that's basically it
- Status
Similar threads
