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Stick to whatever is consistent and makes more sense. If calcs are more consistent with overall feats, ignore author's statement. Remember when Murata put garou's speed at like supersonic or something thinking it was impressive
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Remember when Murata put garou's speed at like supersonic or something thinking it was impressive
Black Flash is a increase in power of 2.5 (^2.5). Which when applied to current levels result in planetary to solar system levels of strengthI sincerely doubt that the manga tells us that the Black Flash is Solar System level.
If you take Jogo’s domain calc and add the 2.5 it’s solar system 10^47 slightly above baseline lmaosomething about ^2.5 multiplier. Anyway, I’m neutral. I don’t really care.
Edit: i heard Itadori scales to 1.2 kilotons now so it’s around moon level with black flash based off raising Itadori’s strength by the power of 2.5. ^2.5 is gotten from author on Black Flash
Alright, for now at least we know whatever will be happening will be at Mach 3 or around that ballparkStick to whatever is consistent and makes more sense. If calcs are more consistent with overall feats, ignore author's statement.Remember when Murata put garou's speed at like supersonic or something thinking it was impressive
No, that's not how any of this works.Alright, for now at least we know whatever will be happening will be at Mach 3 or around that ballpark
This is the closest we've got to an actual mention of speed. If he sticks to this, then that'll be a problem going forward
That's not how that works.Black Flash is a increase in power of 2.5 (^2.5). Which when applied to current levels result in planetary to solar system levels of strength
should mention piercing blood is actually faster than the speed of sound to an unstated degree
I don't even see what's for debate when Gege has never at all been vague with speed.
This is about as poignant as me saying "existence is just existence." The art is the literal only representation outside of words that we have and depicts what happens.The art is just the art. With pixel scaling, the issue is that:
Irrelevant unless you think Gege, as a professional artist, doesn't know about scale.
- the author isn't drawing with a ruler
This makes no sense. You proved your own point wrong within this post. You're also determining that the street level character (btw AP and speed have no direct correlation) has to be capped at subsonic, which is more about your interpretation than anything objective.
- rule of cool. For a lot of street level characters who will never break the sound barrier in their life, stuff like catching, dodging, deflecting bullets is done to make them look cool.
Faster than sound, which means no cap. Still doesn't address contradictory feats.Piercing Blood being a top tier attack in the verse is already proof of this even before the Projection Sorcery shenanigans.
Exactly, and given that characters ranging from mid to top tier have multiple feats of reacting to hypersonic entities, this should tell you what about Gege's statement?A hypersonic character would never struggle to handle a supersonic attack to the point that they have to make plans, bait it out, and even a 50/50 gamble based on the direction they dodge just to evade a speed of sound attack.
Once again irrelevant.JJK is the verse where throwing a car is considered impressive.
Non sequitur.While the hax is good, people legit tried to scale the verse up too early.
Already addressed piercing blood. As for Naoya he has the advantage of having supersonic movement speed while others don't. I can react to a cheetah and other fast animals doesn't mean I won't get overwhelmed by their speed.A lot of the mid-tiers scale to or below Yuji in terms of pure physicals so for the stuff that Yuji struggled with, they would also struggle with.
Yuji:
- struggled with piercing blood
- struggled with subsonic Naoya
See the differing aspects of speed stats.A lot of characters are downright physically inferior to him so they would be even worse off against both Piercing Blood and Naoya.
Rule of cool doesn't invalidate feats. In fact, I'd just say that's how it's supposed to be, most of anything in manga, or games, or movies, are done with an intent to be "cool", unless we're talking about genres where action isn't exactly important.rule of cool. For a lot of street level characters who will never break the sound barrier in their life, stuff like catching, dodging, deflecting bullets is done to make them look cool.
A hypersonic character would never struggle to handle a supersonic attack to the point that they have to make plans, bait it out, and even a 50/50 gamble based on the direction they dodge just to evade a speed of sound attack.
Ik this is not a AP thread, butJJK is the verse where throwing a car is considered impressive
Very big car lvIk this is not a AP thread, but
Car level
WHATG?!12?1/!?@?#@? WHAT ABOUT MUH FAN CALC DOOOODWouldn't the option that requires less assumptions tend to be better?
A fan-calc, while trying to be as reliable as possible, still has to make some assumptions for it to work.
The manga telling us "This character, Maki, couldn't react properly to a Mach 3 attack" is a lot more direct and has a lot less assumptions involved.
- NNT's characters being impressed by the speed of sound, even as they dodge lightning at morning
Yes, Gege specifically states he can use a return stroke mechanic to hit opponents. It also explcitly wualified for several of the sites light ing standard such as causing electrolysis in water, producing a steam explosion in water, and being conducted through metal.Not sure what my stance is now after reading some more arguments, but I gotta ask about the Hakari feat since it was used as an example real quick: Are we sure that's lightning that he dodged? I looked through the evidence and saw nothing that differentiates it from regular electricity.
The evidence for it being lightningNot sure what my stance is now after reading some more arguments, but I gotta ask about the Hakari feat since it was used as an example real quick: Are we sure that's lightning that he dodged? I looked through the evidence and saw nothing that differentiates it from regular electricity.
I mean they brought the dr stone science advisor for those chapters, so that should explain why its so realisticIt is called as lightning
Kashimo's lightning attacks is probably the most realistic I have ever seen in a manga
Kashimo splits the charges of his cursed energy, which is naturally similar to electricity. He transfers the positive charge into his opponent through a physical blow, and discharges the negative charge stored in himself towards his opponent while cancelling the discharge to the ground. this attack is a bolt of lightning that rips through the atmosphere and never misses its mark, without the need for a domain expansion.”
What's the context around this picture it might be useful for this thread?On a wildly unrelated note I think this is a very cool picture.