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Meh, feat looks really vague when it comes to the explosion part, especially since in the next scene when Jogo gets him with a surprise attack, his Infinity is back onHe was curious to see what would happen if it touched him
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Meh, feat looks really vague when it comes to the explosion part, especially since in the next scene when Jogo gets him with a surprise attack, his Infinity is back onHe was curious to see what would happen if it touched him
Well calcs are you using that don't involve Maki to scale the verse's mid tiers?I don't care though lol? That's not one of the calcs I using to signify that hypersonic is a thing in JJK.
lemme recheck this scene in the anime after dinner
well to be fair all he has to do is cease his deactivation of it. He wanted to see what the bugs do, and they couldnt jack right prior when limitless was activeMeh, feat looks really vague when it comes to the explosion part, especially since in the next scene when Jogo gets him with a surprise attack, his Infinity is back on
.i do think like the proper gauge would be
maki feat: has to be subsonic to narratively work
Piercing blood reactions: cant be faster than > mach 1, given people's reaction to it being fast, even naoya
Kashimo's electricity has more statements of being like electricity, honestly recommend the mach 6 for hakari which was accepted by 1 calc member so far
I think gojo's feat is fine, might need recalc but the feat is legitimate
No there isn't. It's specifically called lightning and when Kashimo hits Hikari from his staff which is supplanted several done meters away the manga specifically notes the return stroke being used it is specifically comparable to that of lightning.while i dont disagree that it shows properties, there is more direct comparison to electricity
mach 4000+ Hakiri is a bit we high, given even gojo's best shown feat is mach 50 ish
That’s part of my point though; for all we know, he could have heard the sound going off and then activated his Infinity once again. We don’t know when he turned back on his infinity, so the feat is vaguewell to be fair all he has to do is cease his deactivation of it. He wanted to see what the bugs do, and they couldnt jack right prior when limitless was active
He compliments the move as impressive and in the anime we literally see them practically point blank as they detonate with him right there.That’s part of my point though; for all we know, he could have heard the sound going off and then activated his Infinity once again. We don’t know when he turned back on his infinity, so the feat is vague
Wait why do you think I care about mid tiers? Maki is like the highest mid tiers and her feat serves more for high tier scaling prior to the culling games arc. But yes high tiers def have more feats for hypersonic if that's what you're asking.Well calcs are you using that don't involve Maki to scale the verse's mid tiers?
It’s actually called electricity more times than notNo there isn't. It's specifically called lightning
I mean the gasoline Dodge is not going to be anywhere close to gojo's calc if the current distance turns out to be correctNo there isn't. It's specifically called lightning and when Kashimo hits Hikari from his staff which is supplanted several done meters away the manga specifically notes the return stroke being used it is specifically comparable to that of lightning.
You are assuming that feat is the height of his power though. That was a casual feat from Gojo so you cannot use it as a cap for him. Especially since Megumi with knowledge literally outpaced a gasoline explosion.
I'm confused, maybe we don't disagree much, who do you think is mid tier in terms of speed that are in the culling gamesWait why do you think I care about mid tiers? Maki is like the highest mid tiers and her feat serves more for high tier scaling prior to the culling games arc. But yes high tiers def have more feats for hypersonic if that's what you're asking.
I have no problem with mid tiers under Maki being around subsonic to sonic.
The gasoline dodged means Megumi pulled off several complex movements before the explosion reached him.I mean the gasoline Dodge is not going to be anywhere close to gojo's calc if the current distance turns out to be correct
I'm not trying to say it's the limit of his speed, I'm just saying Mach 50 to Mach 4000 plus is an insane gap, and even more so when everyone else is getting hit by the narrative obstacle that is Naoya
Also if you check my prior posts in this thread you'll notice that there are indeed more statements saying electricity than lightning
I would consider current Megumi (Regi fight) as a gatekeeper for high tier currently with people that can hang with Yuta/Hikari top tier and Gojo/Sukuna god tier.I'm confused, maybe we don't disagree much, who do you think is mid tier in terms of speed that are in the culling games
He is clearly referencing a lightning's return stroke even if it's labeled return strike.im only going to comment on the return stroke part, that is wrong
T/N explicitly states Gege didnt use the normal kanji for return stroke
t/n is right about the kanji being return electricity strike and not return stroke, i even had Arc check the raw
If you don't think there is a difference between the two then why would you argue for mach 6?I'm not creating a difference between the two. What you just said about there being no differences is correct. I'm of the mind that the way the electricity is portrayed lines of well with it just being that.
Like what? The only factor you could point to would be strength of the charge built up, but once again, that would also directly be correlated to strength of the bolt, and regular lightning bolt do no incinirate sections of people. So by that logic, Kashimo's bolt is clearly using a magnitude of built of electrical charge for stronger than a regular odd lightning bolt even utilizing real life standards.Perhaps my take on it is more so divorced from wiki standards. The reason lightning is so fast has a lot more factors than what lightning standards are for the wiki.
If you don't think there is a difference between the two then why would you argue for mach 6?
Like what?
Where are you getting a mach 6 figure from? An electrical discharge moving through air is not going to net that speed.Mainly because the narrative can support either speed, and mach 6 is more narratively consistent with the gege's current route with the manga
Yes, and the wiki has standards for things being compared to cloud to ground lightning. Clouds do not have some special property. It's a build of of energy of a specific charge that is then propagated to another target of different charge which is specifically how Kashimo's technique works. And he satisfies multiple criteria for lightning equivalence.well that gets into a whole thing on cloud to ground lightning, distance of could, air resistance, the current wiki used average being a bit high end for speed, etc.
Oh I see, I was more so confused on why you were using mach 6 in the first place given we are talking about lightning but I may have missed itim not going to debate that here, nor do i intend to try and change anything regarding the standards for the wiki. As such, letting you guys deal with what end you go with hakari
Im just saying the mach 6 end is much cleaner Currently for the story
you are correctPretty the distance traveled shouldnt be the road, if u look here Gojo jumps to the left of him on the wall not across the road
mach 6 is hakari's reactionWhere are you getting a mach 6 figure from? An electrical discharge moving through air is not going to net that speed.
Yes, and the wiki has standards for things being compared to cloud to ground lightning. Clouds do not have some special property. It's a build of of energy of a specific charge that is then propagated to another target of different charge which is specifically how Kashimo's technique works. And he satisfies multiple criteria for lightning equivalence.
Oh I see, I was more so confused on why you were using mach 6 in the first place given we are talking about lightning but I may have missed it
Clouds do not have some special property. It's a build of of energy of a specific charge that is then propagated to another target of different charge which is specifically how Kashimo's technique works. And he satisfies multiple criteria for lightning equivalence.
I see, did you read that blog?mach 6 is hakari's reaction
Hakari Dodges Electricity
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using mach 1.6 for electricity in air, the low end currently accepted on the wiki
Speed of Electricity
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The speed of electricity is really complicated and I don't think it's fair to use the low end found in non-harmful electricity traveling through a homemade coil gun.
We should evaluate the medium, the energy level/output, and state why it's comparable to electricity used in attacks, etc.
Additionally, electricity tagging a target moves faster. As it moves towards something, instead of dispersing."
I am trying to see if i can calc the wall that he jumps on but i cant find any height for the walls but I may be able to use the squares height themselves and get the height of the wall from there.fair i guess
as for the gojo dodge thing, ill look into how to calc it tomorrow, unless someone want to try a crack at it
Entirely or something specific?Hakari's calc is actually very wrong
I feel dumb to just notice it now
Partially but it's a large partEntirely or something specific?
It seems more so too me the faster he is the stronger and more durable he is. Since he is increase durability to match the KE of his speed.so official is out
so its might not be a speed-durability cap for the verse
its just naoya is a glass cannon
he doesnt remotely compare to hanami in dura for example
Kamo does however state naoya is faster than anything, which would include hanami
Really went and said Naoya is faster than anything. Does Gege just have it out for y'all or something?so official is out
so its might not be a speed-durability cap for the verse
its just naoya is a glass cannon
he doesnt remotely compare to hanami in dura for example
Kamo does however state naoya is faster than anything, which would include hanami
Dicking themReally went and said Naoya is faster than anything. Does Gege just have it out for y'all or something?
Blogging it nowHakari's calc is actually very wrong
I feel dumb to just notice it now
tbf this would be from kamo's perspective, so wouldnt include characters he hasnt met or seen the full speed ofReally went and said Naoya is faster than anything. Does Gege just have it out for y'all or something?
Hakari's calc is actually very wrong
I feel dumb to just notice it now
Entirely or something specific?
Partially but it's a large part
Blogging it now
Isn't Kamo quite literally not allowed to be Faster than Mach 1?Kamo Reacts to Naoya
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Hmmmm but Maki was hypersonic already?