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Why? He reacts to Naoya multiple times.Isn't Kamo quite literally not allowed to be Faster than Mach 1?
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Why? He reacts to Naoya multiple times.Isn't Kamo quite literally not allowed to be Faster than Mach 1?
kamo calc is wrongKamo Reacts to Naoya
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Hmmmm but Maki was hypersonic already?
You can react to sound and be slower than soundWhy? He reacts to Naoya multiple times.
Yeah? Do you think he didn't get faster as a vengeful spirit?kamo calc is wrong
This is not saying naoya was faster than sound punching kamo, maki is commenting from her prior fight, she means human naoya
Naoya is mach 3 at max, Kamo is mach 1.3, Vengeful spirit is faster than human Naoya was which was faster than sosYou can react to sound and be slower than sound
Also that calculation has him faster than Naoya, which is an issue
His peak speed as a cursed womb can be faster than his peak speed as a vengeful spiritYeah? Do you think he didn't get faster as a vengeful spirit?
This calculation has Kamo calculated to be faster than Naoya's casual speed, which is wrong.Naoya is mach 3 at max, Kamo is mach 1.3, Vengeful spirit is faster than human Naoya was which was faster than sos
His regular speed scales to a healthy Maki, weakened maki was able to react to top Naoya though.His peak speed as a cursed womb can be faster than his peak speed as a vengeful spirit
Doesn't mean his casual speed as a vengeful spirit is faster than his peak speed as a cursed womb
thats not the issue, his speed fluctuates based on acceleration. that is a principle of projection SorcercyYeah? Do you think he didn't get faster as a vengeful spirit?
After waiting for the moment to strike, doesn't mean she's relative in speed, especially when she blatantly implies inferiorityHis regular speed scales to a healthy Maki, weakened maki was able to react to top Naoya though.
There are some things that are very wrong with this.Hakari's Lightning Dodge
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Again one of the inconsistencies brought up. This one directly in the fightIsn't Kamo quite literally not allowed to be Faster than Mach 1?
First of all, Hakari turning is deadass the moment the bolt started. He turned his body then that bolt was shot on the same page, with nothing saying that the position of his arm changed other than the next page after a significant movement in his body.There are some things that are very wrong with this.
Firstly your whole basis of his shoulder being further back is using an image of Hakari turning and NOT facing the same direction of when the feat happens. The image you used for this is when Hakari is turning and not facing Kashimo, while when the feat does happen not only is Hakari facing him but his body is straight and not turned like you're proposing, make it untrue that this be the case. His shoulder wasn't further back, we can see a clear difference in the two.
Please recognize the bottom of the calc where I saidSecondly, the speed used is not the accepted speed of his lightning, you're cherry picking electricity speeds that someone used for a Low ball while this thread has explicitly argued and shown, with people agree it to be real lightning and therefore lightning speed. You would do your best add both of those ends and make results purposely lower. Using real lightning speed:
0.23645845329971 / (0.48552127191855 + 0.064606131408148) *440000
= 189122.953743 m/s (Mach 551.378873885)
Which is pretty much saying "if you don't like my speed, find another speed and multiply it by 0.4298".The result will always be that Hakari is 42.98% the speed of the bolt.
no I can't find anything to scale the wall off from the scene. He jumped over 2m though considering the blast's size but just can't measure that.curious, has the gojo feat been recalced
What says he didn't just... get out of frame?no I can't find anything to scale the wall off from the scene. He jumped over 2m though considering the blast's size but just can't measure that.
idk what you're talking about bro. I'm just saying he jumped to the wall so that's the distance he covered and if u look at the page after the explosion he still in the air landing onto the wall.What says he didn't just... get out of frame?
Nothing says he jumped the entire wall before the explosion covered a few centimeters
He can do a full jump, but it's saying that he covered this entire distance before the bugs' explosion could move a few centimetersthe anime i think makes it clear he had to have done a full jump
well clearly not that, the explosion comes from the ground so he'd have to have moved before the explosion reached the surface.He can do a full jump, but it's saying that he covered this entire distance before the bugs' explosion could move a few centimeters
Not really, considering that they come from the bugswell clearly now that, the explosion comes from the ground so he'd have to have moved before the explosion reached the surface.
Manga shows it coming from the ground and the bugs too. I wouldn't base it off the anime. but looking at the anime if we're going off it Gojo's still at the center of the explosions and hasn't moved yet. I'm honestly starting to think he didn't react at all and just turned on infinity then jumped up afterwards considering he had on it afterwardsNot really, considering that they come from the bugs
Shows the same thing in the anime. Here's the next frames, it just forms different but it doesn't come from the groundManga shows it coming from the ground and the bugs too. I wouldn't base it off the anime. but looking at the anime if we're going off it Gojo's still at the center of the explosions and hasn't moved yet. I'm honestly starting to think he didn't react at all and just turned on infinity then jumped up afterwards considering he had on it afterwards
No way this is all you got from the calculation when I flat out replied thisUsing that speed has already been debunked.
Please recognize the bottom of the calc where I said
Which is pretty much saying "if you don't like my speed, find another speed and multiply it by 0.4298".The result will always be that Hakari is 42.98% the speed of the bolt.
No, just wanted to point that out.No way this is all you got from the calculation when I flat out replied this
He wasn't even MOVINGNo, just wanted to point that out.
But yeah, I also disagree with your assessment of positioning as Hikari was clearly lunging towards Kashimo from his stance which is why in the panel with the close up you can see Hikari's side profile and the collar being viewed from the side as opposed from a front angle.
In the first panel he is facing his opponent in a side stance with his chest open and facing one side. In the panel where Hikari is about to be hit we see his face leaning forward from a side profile and his shoulders squared. Which then leads to the panel with the dodge in which he moves to his right quickly to get his head out of the way but is hit in his arm as a result of his lateral movement. So clearly his shoulders move in between those panels.He wasn't even MOVING
You know his shoulder could move... because he's getting hit right?In the first panel he is facing his opponent in a side stance with his chest open and facing one side. In the panel where Hikari is about to be hit we see his face leaning forward from a side profile and his shoulders squared. Which then leads to the panel with the dodge in which he moves to his right quickly to get his head out of the way but is hit in his arm as a result of his lateral movement. So clearly his shoulders move in between those panels.
That's not what I am talking about.You know his shoulder could move... because he's getting hit right?
The entire time he's facing Kashimo
Not at all which is why you won't actually address my point.????????
In the same 2 panels you just sent, his shoulder is behind his head in both of them.
You're making a handful of logical asspulls to say that somehow his shoulder wasn't behind him when you send me a page with 2 panels... showing that in both scenarios they're behind him.
tbh I don't think this is needed as a lot of this has been discussed/is being discussed in this one
Several mods have yet to make their final point. He also conveniently forgot to "organize" the counterarguments in this thread. So yes, if the intention was to better organize the debates for clarity, he should have involved all relevant information, not just the info that suits his side.Yall wanna call everything dishonest and ill-intentioned. He just wanted to create a more organized thread since the OP in this one is lackluster
The OP is meant to prove a point, he isn't obligated to defend a point he doesn't agree with, AKA providing counterarguments against his point. That's not his job. Regardless, it isn't a point of argument, just request for the thread to closeSeveral mods have yet to make their final point. He also conveniently forgot to "organize" the counterarguments in this thread. So yes, if the intention was to better organize the debates for clarity, he should have involved all relevant information, not just the info that suits his side.
It is when the whole purpose of a new thread is to "reorganize information". Anyone coming into this thread can read both sides and decide if they agree with OP after the pages of debate spent.The OP is meant to prove a point, he isn't obligated to defend a point he doesn't agree with, AKA providing counterarguments against his point. That's not his job. Regardless, it isn't a point of argument, just request for the thread to close