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Please, can we mark out spoiler properly.
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Arkenis
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ReaperAndBlues
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SilenceThis, this right here makes Yuji and Maki equal.
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I'm not talking to you on this one, my comment was meant for M3X and AbaddonThat might just be a issue with the site, both are spoiler marked.
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Fair enough, edited mine
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I think it was removed. But here, it just says Yuuta did it and then is about when Nanami did it.No scans so far as I Checked.
Yuta Okkotsu
Yuta Okkotsu (乙おっ骨こつ 憂ゆう太た, Okkotsu Yūta?) is currently a second-year student at Jujutsu High who is studying overseas. He was the main protagonist of Jujutsu Kaisen prequel series Tokyo Metropolitan Curse Technical School. Six years ago, Rika Orimoto gave Yuta an engagement ring, and they...vsbattles.fandom.com
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It is clearly mentioned by Todo that understanding of CE gets increased and there is a big difference between one who experienced BF and one isn't
The whole point is when Todo brought up BF only Nanami and Gojo were shown in Background
Then even in Fanbook Gege never mentioned anything about Yuta having experienced BF
Later onwards we didn't get any statement or feats for Yuta having that.
So far it's only anime thing. We don't consider anime to be canon in the wiki.
Someone was talking about LN but couldn't find any scans lol.
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I saw but couldn't find Yuta hitting a BF? Your link talks about Nanami
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There is nothing to be caught off guard from someone who you're completely focused on whilst fresh off in a new zone from a BF, the guy you're trying to beat up has his back turned on to you not focused on you, then proceeds to smack you away with a backhand
Yuji was not caught off guard. Stop the cap
Potential merchant in JJK aren't impressive. We're told multiple times by gojo that everybody beyond SG and gonna react his level, the cap man himself in the verse. What basis do you have for his potential being higher than almost everybody else aside from Uraume thinking being the nephew of Sukuna + being born with 1 finger = complete Sukuna potential? A dubious statement lol.
But ignoring that aside as I don't really care... Potential does not matter if you don't have the talent to make use of it.
Insane for what. Spamming BF? Sure. Until you see Sukuna eating them up like nothing, whilst being simultaneously nerfed by them.
Carried by Sukuna's usage of jujutsu in his body means that there is a growth cap for him. Having practically no talent sucks. We literally see him go through thousands of battles especially life and death battles being spammed yet he struggles to have crazy growth levels in a short time like Higu, Mahito, Gojo and Sukuna. Yuta got better talent ngl.
Sukuna's influence isn't relevant. Sukuna carried him for the rest of his journey in growing fast and quick enough to be useful. Carried him in completely handicapping Mahito in his set of abilities.
Ye because the biggest villain did experiments on his body. You didn't even counter what I said. He got no talent in jujutsu. Simple as that. The manga tells you this twice. Even his feats tells us given how he doesn't go through crazy growth feats like couple others when being near death
Couple of BF that barely did anything is hype worthy? Ok bro.
I would also tweak too if a guy had crazy damage reduction against any of my attacks. Yuta and Maki feats when it comes to hurting Sukuna are far more impressive. Yuji with a BF barely doing damage bro
Weakening Sukuna hundreds of times. But barely doing damage with BF. Impressive.
Offguard doesn't even exist in that scene. Why do yall gotta lie.
Yeah because not everybody gets full lock in and motivation 100. Emotion focus and will helps you in BF.
Dunno why you mentioned Geto. He's barely even relevant in the story anymore.
Ye a temporary 120%.
He didn't achieve further than that. Unless you mean Awakening then yeah.
Ye but that's only for your level of CE knowledge and understanding and control.
Not every core of CE is the same for example. Nobara reaching core of ce is vastly on a lower level than the one gojo reached. Geto never shown or stated to do BF. That doesn't mean GW Yuji gaps him now in CE control.
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LS and AP are different things for God's sake.This, this right here makes Yuji and Maki equal.
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Why not? What ce control has Geto shown that places him above Yuji ?
EldemadeDityjon
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I searched Yuta instead Yuuta no wonder couldn't find with search optionJJK readers everyone
lol
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About Sukuna:
No idea as to why some here suddenly think Sukuna died after healing up all his wounds including second mouth and missing arms + soul wound, having gotten rct output back to normal level, etc. Ignoring the fact that this is Yuji's first ever DE especially one constructed through basic barrier skills as stated. Sukuna stat gaps him quite massively and easily, and is soon about to have the ct burnout nerf wear off.
The idea that Sukuna died to a beginner's DE is such a ridiculous idea that makes absolutely no sense. Because right after saying DE, (No name was mentioned for Yuji's. De) we see these two appear in a domain as stated. Sukuna is for some reason not in his true self state but rather Yuji form. And Yuji is alongside him.
This is quite blatantly not a indication of death or the like. It has clearly got something to do with innate domain or the like. Maybe even some sort of soul resonance, or the reason for why Todo and Choso gained a set of memories about Yuji.
But one-way or another Sukuna straight up ain't dying, and has already noticed the CE spark from Yuji's DE. It's quite simple to manifest Hollow wicker basket especially when he's in a fresh new zone from BF.
Straight up this makes no sense. Not to mention the fact that Hiten hasn't been shown yet. Nor have we seen the resurface of Ten Shadows, which strangely enough for the latter, we've seen his domain and rct output only get accessed/back to "normal" after doing black flashes. Which may mean that we will get to see it being used again.
There's also the last remaining finger, that may or may not be gained by Sukuna to fully make his soul complete (if it previously wasn't complete)
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? You think goodwill Yuji got better Ce control than Geto?
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What ce control has Geto shown that places him above Yuji's understanding?
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Never mind
Seems like Yuta's CE control just sucks even reaching that level
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Yuji is NOT Megumi, unlike him he's actually living out his potential. Him being possible to rival Sukuna only adds to him being a special grade, his current feats are enough lol. That fraud Megumi ain't got shit on him.
Like nothing huh?
I guess this is nothing huh?
And this.
Oh and also this.
Yeah no, Sukuna got bodied
That only makes him more impressive by the fact he can contend even with that cap. Fair reminder that Sukuna is the STRONGEST IN HISTORY, so the fact Yuji can reach this is still crazy. Don't know what you're talking about.
Well duh, he's related to Gojo, what do you expect? That doesn't mean he necessarily has more potential though, just talent.
And what does talent even serve in the first place? All it does is get you to the top faster. Yuji is more like Asta in how he just works hard for his fights. He has some of the best willpower and we see that it DOES matter.
That was Shibuya, this isn't. Current Yuji dogwalks Mahito low diff by himself.Carried him in completely handicapping Mahito in his set of abilities.
Who cares? This is about him being special grade, this is a moot point. Yuji with Sukuna's influence is here now, that much is true. Even without he's top 5 in raw hands in the verse, which is not something to gawk at.
That is the most ridiculous drivel I have ever seen. Maki has a goddamn sword that attacks the soul, of course that shit will do damage, and Yuta is Yuta, who cares. Barely any damage? LMAOOOOOOOO, I swear you are trolling at this point. If you are being actually serious I would be shocked at this point. Even if you took away his soul-ripping, Yuji is still up with Yuta in physicals. Sukuna for the entire time acknowledged Yuta and Maki to spite Yuji and when he did he still kept his composure. Yuji had him TWEAKING, not even Gojo had him as mad as he was at him for beating his ass. For crying out loud, he tanked a black flash from him in 257.Couple of BF that barely did anything is hype worthy? Ok bro.
I would also tweak too if a guy had crazy damage reduction against any of my attacks. Yuta and Maki feats when it comes to hurting Sukuna are far more impressive. Yuji with a BF barely doing damage bro
Weakening Sukuna hundreds of times. But barely doing damage with BF. Impressive.
That 120% still meant a lot, and experiencing it is a pretty huge boost in combat. The fact they haven't is still something Yuji hangs over their heads, whether you want to argue that or not.
Anyways, I don't care anymore and all that matters is Yuji got a DE. I'm not gonna argue this anymore cus we're gonna be going in circles. Good night.
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Goodnight guys! Peaceful rest for everybody 
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Yuji downplay in big 2024, oml
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It's actually sad. IT'S THOSE DAMN YUTA FANS I SWEAR!
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Less that the DE killed him and more the DE separated his and Megumi's soul. The whole point of the bit before that was that Yuji's soul attacks would be lethal to him just that he isn't able to easily hit them while Sukuna was fully healed. Yuji pulling out his domain and potentially imbuing it with his soul targeting dismantles as the sure hit could effectively kill Sukuna if he doesn't activate an anti-domain which we don't see him do. Not saying that he didn't but we just didn't see it yet. Also it's not like it's just a beginner's DE, it's a beginner's DE that's likely imbued with a sure-hit that's extremely effective against him. If bro was spitting up his fingers after getting hit by like one or two direct soul dismantles, a dozen or so from a sure-hit is definitely going to do more damage.
I'm not gonna assume he's fully dead yet but it's not hard to see why people can assume he's going to soon or already has and this is just another weird afterlife scene which we've gotten, what three times already now.
Also on the topic of Hiten we don't even know if it still exists, it's been a thousand years the thing could've been destroyed or lost. Same with the original Kamutoke. Ten Shadows got lost after the fight with Gojo and if it is regained it'd probably have to come back through more black flashes. That last remaining finger is either eaten by Rika or somewhere else entirely within Jujutsu Tech considering Yuta implied they had it so Sukuna probably won't get his hands on it.
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It's just sad Arkenis still comparing Maki to Awakened Yuji level where as Pre Awakened Yuji has whole lot of better feats than her 
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Also Beginners domain or experienced Domain. It shouldn't matter. Domain sure hit can just ignore durability and other stuff. So it shouldn't be any problem if Yuji cooked Sukuna with his Beginners Domain
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Btw looking at how Todo was hidden from Yuji and he most likely didn't participated in Body swap training. It's crazy how he highly likely powered up with his own efforts to hang around with Top tiers.
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That's fair. But that's still under the assumption that there isn't a lapse of time where the CT has to be imbued into the domain. That's why I doubt Sukuna actually got hit. Especially when he's far faster now thanks to his recovery and rising output.
Unless Yuji's CT is instant which is less believable given how it is just basic domain barrier technique so far that he has.
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My point of bringing up beginner domain is how less skilled one would be in quickly adding in ones ct as sure hit and how fast one can make it deploy, like Mahito who did the 0.2 domain. That's advanced barrier technique skill
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Take the bait.
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it's a edit. This guy did a blatant edit. The official digital release of vol 27 says emw still.Fax or Cap
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CAPFax or Cap
you can see on the official pages that it still says EM Waves in the original and someone already pointed out in the post. This guy either faked it or got a misprint. Leaning towards the prior considering his only post is this on reddit
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dude, yuji is leagues above him in strength currently, a weakened yuji managed to one tap him through a concentreted CE black flash while yuji was at less then 10% soul capacity (by mahito's words) while mahito was at around 20% by his own statements, current yuji can absolutely wreck his shit, he is currently far faster, far stronger and has the ability to dismantle the soul, mahito gets done in the second the distance between them is closed and if he tries IT yuji can either defend it like nanami but instead of doing in subconsciously he will just be actively doing it and considering his CE reserves by this point should be substentially above nanami's (through the 6 death paintings he ate and residue CE from sukuna) he would legit be able to ignore IT for the most part and any damage it may do he can heal through knowing he outline of his soul. Like legit current yuji has all the answere to mahito's kit, while mahito got 0 answere's to yuji's.
? dude he managed to avoid one and only got grazed on the side of his shoulder here
and that still messed him up even though it wasn't a direct hit and was mostly blocked.
This is what happened when sukuna did land a direct BF on todo:
I don't know about you but this
likely honestly, I'd still say kenny is top 3 of the verse with yuji and yuta being the ones right behind him.
the same Uraume who is mad stuggeling against hakai? hell no, she gets cooked plus we've yet to see a Domain from her so depending on just how busted yuji's is she dying.
yeah chapters ago, yuji has been adapting and using the CT better and better to the point where he managed to impose a rather effective binding vow on the part of the CT
dude who said yuji got no talent? kusakabe said that the metoric rise that would be insane by any other standard was because of sukuna but yuji himself had moments of insane talent, him being able to pretty much instantly grasp how to use CE reinforcement after todo told him being one and don't give me the "oh well he was taken over by sukuna at that point to" spiel, yuji was taken over by sukuna for at most 10 minutes culmatively at that point and he didn't see any real growth from that due to his lack of understanding where as when he was taken over by sukuna in shibuya he was taken over for half an hour and we see yuji being substentially stronger which is noted by choso right after the arc ends with the whole "demon god" statement.
Plus the man just heard about black flashes from todo once and managed to pull of 4 of them back to back matching the current record for consecutive BF's and sukuna had exactly nothing to do with that since he never pulled off a BF in yuji's body, if that ain't talent I don't know what is.
yeah and? its still Reyomen Mother ******* SUKUNA, the strongest sorcerer in history and one that even in his current state is far above most special grades.
oh wow its almost like everyone was shocked by yuta showing up in that scene
its almost like being smacked while your attention is directly focused on something else results in you taking more damage then if you where prepared for a hit (even though this hit didn't do any real damage and simply pushed yuji aside)
yeah and yuji so far is the only one that has shown the ability to pop them off nearly every other hit.
ah yes, domain expansion, basic barrier skills, known to the most basic specialgradesonly sorcerers.
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like honestly people yuji has been in the top 10 ever since 257, now with the current stuff he is legit in the running for the top 5-4 spot, sure he ain't sukuna or gojo, but don't forget he has been a sorcerer for a grand total of half a year.
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yuta had rika eat that one, its gone.
16 where in yuji (it was cofirmed that kenny placed a cursed object in yuji which is a sukuna finger hence why he was in the culling games)
3 where consumed prior to sukuna fighting gojo
and the final one was taken by yuta and given to rika.
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? Except he is. Got all that potential but will never make proper use of it like Sukuna is.
We're blatantly told his talent is quite mid. Barely anything at all. Talent in the sense of making use of your potential.
"Being possible to rival Sukuna" literally never.
Yeah like nothing. Just spamming BF barely doing damage. makes me wonder if you even stop to think to yourself on what BF is and what a normal attack is. Spoilers they're not the same thing. If his BF is just doing all that whilst punching directly into the soul barrier with a BF amped attack, that also continues lowering his control over his body and output then it's not as impressive as you're trying to make it to beLike nothing huh?
I guess this is nothing huh?
And this.
Oh and also this.
Yeah no, Sukuna got bodied
he didn't even get bodied. Why lieImpressive in growth is nothing aside from being carried.
What's actually impressive is his character, and will.
He's not reaching Sukuna's level. Him and everybody else struggling with a massively nerfed Sukuna on top of jumping on him and a guy who has the ability to lower his output with each and every single touch for free
? Related to Sugawara Michizane.
Saying he doesn't have more potential is yap. Rika and Copy ability is straight up has more potential and versatility to it. What Yuji has is something Yuta can conveniently yoink for himself there.
That's not to mention his CE reserves. If you have real good CE control and make use of that CE reserves, you get easily real strong.
It's quite literally what allows you to reach what you want to reach in less time and with less risk. Mahito reaching the level he reached with just one near death battle made him unlock DE with completeness, and then later on some extensions to his CT.
Yuji took hundreds of battles and life and death. Having died TWICE. To even achieve a DE alongside spamming so many BF that allow you to unlock new stuff, like Mahito did. Or Gojo and Sukuna in establishing rct circuit despite being at a very high level in jujutsu in the first place (surprising to see them still achieve new stuff if you think about it when they stand at a very high level that nobody even comes close to in history)
Gojo getting sealed once allowed him to easily comprehend and learn something new from the prison realm somehow too. Sukuna learned how to separate his soul into a cursed object after seeing how Kenjaku did it once in a short time.
If you have no talent then you have no hope in reaching high levels dude. Look at the old dudes like Gakuganji. Or other people like Naobito. Etc.
Literally LOOK at Kenjaku. Dude has been living for a really really long time. Has a CT that allows him to do so and to also have access to multiple CT on top of it. And the CT that he has also allows him to possess others body, learn their memories and gain free skill on some stuff that he isn't versed at or sucks at.
Look at the level he has reached, and yet he's so below gojo and Sukuna to where he's practically an ant compared to them when it comes to CE control and perhaps a few more stuff, despite having thousands of years of knowledge and skill and more. Only thing he may be equal to them in or surpass is his barrier skills.
Talent is quite literally what allows you to make use of your potential or to continue even further. Without any you'd just barely progress if at all. The higher you go the slower you go. You might even slow to a complete stop at some point. Despite having had Sukuna use his jujutsu in Yuji's body, Yuji has to go through crazy amount of BF, a lot of battles especially life and death ones and so much more, to reach what he has reached now.
Gojo saying jujutsu is like 80% innate talent tells you quite enough.
You care. I care. This is such a weak rebuttal.
? Even without is crazy. He wouldn't even be here without the influence being there.
?? He's not even top 5.
Loses to gojo. Loses to Sukuna. Loses to any version of Mahoraga. Loses to Agito. Loses to Yorozu. Loses to Kenjaku, loses to Takaba. Loses to Yuta. Loses to Kashimo. Loses to Ryu. Loses to Uraume. Loses to Maki (his domain can't target or capture Maki), eventually loses to Hakari.
loses even to Sugawara no Michizane. Featless character that was a top tier in heian.
Every other char I listed here that has DE is something he loses to. That's why he gets cooked.
Maki also can take his dismantle and cleave and get right up back to the fight in movements. Took a BF from a more stronger Sukuna and later on got back to fighting.
"Yuta is Yuta"? OK so you got nothing to counter
Literally the scans you show me shows him barely doing anything with a BF
Yuta with Uro ct did far more damage against a far stronger Sukuna than most of the BF Yuji threw in against a far weaker Sukuna lmfao.
"Yuji is still up with Yuta in physicals" you didn't need to lie.
I would also be tweaking if I was dealing with a dude that kept spamming BF that keeps making me lose control over a body alongside making my CE output drop down from each and every punch amplified by BF. Especially when he keeps spamming those BF so many times.
"Tanked"
.Not as much as you'd think. It isn't permanent. Just temporary.
You thinking that they haven't is kinda weird given that we have no such knowledge to make of. Yuta gets a Bf early on. Yuji and todo too. Yuki getting one alongside couple others would actually make sense that they did given how long they've been as a jujutsu sorcerer.
so there's like nothing saying they didn't.
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That one was taken away by Sukuna after Kenjaku lifted the seals. So he had 16F
It doesn't disappear off and vanish off to being erased. So not sure what your point is. We might be getting to see Rika possibly in action soon. If she does, then something about the finger might happen.
