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I wonder who got more personality, a door or a average Bleach female characterBleach
You can ask that in Bleach general discussion thread you will get better explanationsI wonder who got more personality, a door or a average Bleach female character
This gotta be a joke, you could say you don’t like the personality but Rukia, Orihime, Nelliel all have personality.I wonder who got more personality, a door or a average Bleach female character
@Giannysmag @Sakamaki_Fuji kaisen Backup translation is out. I think maybe Mya messed up his early translation
Instead of Dismantle it's stated Cleave
Spit your shit indeedRukia is the best bleach character
@Giannysmag @Sakamaki_Fuji kaisen Backup translation is out. I think maybe Myamura messed up his early translation
Instead of Dismantle it's stated Cleave
I think its a matter of prominence, popularity and recency.OP, Bleach & Gintama ain't belong Shonen jump?
I don't have any comments on Jolyne because still not caught up to that part but Maki & Sakura must be a joke.
No comments on this. Gotta catch up.I think its a matter of prominence, popularity and recency.
Jolyne was a main character and she just had her anime wrap up, she's got all three going for her.
Naruto generally was more popular than Bleach, and I would argue Sakura is actually a more prominent character than most bleach women in her story (specifically in that Sakura has several big moments across the entire length of the series whereas a lot of Bleach women don't have as many nor as wide as moments. Like Rukia is the closes example to this in bleach, and her final moment of the series happens in the middle of the TYBW whereas Sakura gets her final last big moment near the tail end of The War Arc)
I mean if it's about Prominent there is Yoruichi. She played very important part in every single arc (Except FB)Maki has all three going for her as well. Recency bias and popularity are easy to figure, but also due to the shorter length of JJK and how she's emphasized within the canon she's also arguably more prominent than the likes of Rukia or Orihime. You can see this in the simple metric of Maki having either the same amount as or more fights than Rukia.
How does Yuji's binding vow work?
Which is funny cause she wasn't even the main focus of that fight character wise, Sasori was. It's just remembered as her peak because it was the only time she did something plot relevantand peaked against Sasori
but that is a character defining moment for Sakura. Her being able to prove herself as a Chunin against an Akatsuki member is not something you can just shove to a box as "plot relevant" that is a very vital and key character moment for her.Which is funny cause she wasn't even the main focus of that fight character wise, Sasori was. It's just remembered as her peak because it was the only time she did something plot relevant
I'm not talking about quality of the moments, because that honestly doesn't matter for a poll like this. And just like how Sakura is overshadowed so too are Orihime and Rukia, to a larger degree. Like Sakura is mostly overshadowed by Naruto and Sasuke, but when it comes down to the final big fight, its her hanging there alongside the rest of her team. While Rukia and Orihime don't exist in that final battle against Yhwach, Renji does though for some reason.No comments on this. Gotta catch up.
I don't think Sakura had any big moments compared to Rukia and Orihime. Sure, she fought Sasori, but other than that, did she have any big fights besides the war arc? She was still overshadowed by Naruto and Sasuke. Rukia also geared up from the Arrancar Arc. Orihime had her moments from the Fullbring Arc, not just the war arc. Both had big moments, if not better moments, than Sakura. Other than fights Rukia and Orihime had character arcs of their own, respectively. Besides, unlike Sakura, Rukia isn't even hated by any fandoms. I can see Orihime getting the hate.
But she doesn't actually. Like Maki got two whole sub arcs dedicated to her, and actually defeated more than one enemy. Yoruichi, sadly across the series, doesn't accomplish really anything. She's cool, but like if you look at what she actually gets done, it's near nothing.I mean if it's about Prominent there is Yoruichi. She played very important part in every single arc (Except FB)
Rukia, maybe but Orihime..? The few instances that come to mind is her leaving Ichigo, her complex relationship with Ulquiorra, and her protecting Ichigo in TYBW.I don't think Sakura had any big moments compared to Rukia and Orihime. Sure, she fought Sasori, but other than that, did she have any big fights besides the war arc? She was still overshadowed by Naruto and Sasuke. Rukia also geared up from the Arrancar Arc. Orihime had her moments from the Fullbring Arc, not just the war arc. Both had big moments, if not better moments, than Sakura. Other than fights Rukia and Orihime had character arcs of their own, respectively. Besides, unlike Sakura, Rukia isn't even hated by any fandoms. I can see Orihime getting the hate.
Idk that just doesn't do it for me. Her going "I wanna be as strong as everyone else" and then she does some off screen training and now she is as strong as everyone else just feels kinda lame for a character arc especially since she doesn't even stay relevant after this.but that is a character defining moment for Sakura. Her being able to prove herself as a Chunin against an Akatsuki member is not something you can just shove to a box as "plot relevant" that is a very vital and key character moment for her.
I brought up the 6 eyes because iirc Gojo said he could perceive that fraction of a second required to land a black flash because of itTetsu is the one who said due to six eyes initially I don't know what your sandbox itself says before you quoted it here rn.
He asks an unseen interviewer why they think he can land a Black Flash whenever he wants and if they think so because of the Six Eyes, implying that they have nothing to do with itI brought up the 6 eyes because iirc Gojo said he could perceive that fraction of a second required to land a black flash because of it
I don't believe so, it was probably for the humidity and air stuff. And also Gojo's heightened perception is likely because of rct's refreshing of the brain making it better than others.I brought up the 6 eyes because iirc Gojo said he could perceive that fraction of a second required to land a black flash because of it
Rukia, maybe but Orihime..? The few instances that come to mind is her leaving Ichigo, her complex relationship with Ulquiorra, and her protecting Ichigo in TYBW.
I could be missing more but Orihime is not nearly as iconic nor has more big moments than Sakura.
Sakura vs Ino
Sakura vs Sasori
Sakura's consistent relevance throughout the war arc (Mostly as support)
I agree with few & disagree with most of this. But I don't want to continue this don't enough free time to address every instance .I'm not talking about quality of the moments, because that honestly doesn't matter for a poll like this. And just like how Sakura is overshadowed so too are Orihime and Rukia, to a larger degree. Like Sakura is mostly overshadowed by Naruto and Sasuke, but when it comes down to the final big fight, its her hanging there alongside the rest of her team. While Rukia and Orihime don't exist in that final battle against Yhwach, Renji does though for some reason.
But the bigger thing is that Sakura is a lot more active of a character across the length of Naruto than Rukia or Orhime are across the length of bleach. Like, by sheer structure of the stories, Naruto having like double the arcs of bleach and more length, she ends up doing a lot more than either of those characters. Sakura is widely disliked by the western fanbase for sure, but just off of screen-time and character actions she's a lot more prominent of a character within her story.
Like, Rukia's biggest arc is Soul Society where its spent with her doing so little.
Orihime's biggest arc is Heuco Mundo which is much the same.
Sakura's biggest arc is the Five Kage summit, and she's actively pushing the story forward and doing so much. And when we get to the final arcs of both series, Sakura does so much more and is treated as so much more important than either Rukia or Orihime are.
Real controversial take, but Kishimoto just does a lot more with Sakura than Kubo does with Rukia or Orihime. And not even to say he does better with her than Kubo does the other two, but he does do more.
But I'll say few things about thisBut she doesn't actually. Like Maki got two whole sub arcs dedicated to her, and actually defeated more than one enemy. Yoruichi, sadly across the series, doesn't accomplish really anything. She's cool, but like if you look at what she actually gets done, it's near nothing.
I say she isn't as important as Maki because when past Soul Society, the second arc of the series, is Yoruchi made into a big deal and actually accomplishes something? Because Maki doesn't do a lot in JJK, she really only has three things (really 2) going for her in terms of accomplishments within the series.But I'll say few things about this
Yoruichi defeated Soi fon (one of the captains)
She also beats up Yami (one of the top 10 Espadas)
She teaming up with Kisuke beats up Aizen if it wasn't for Hogyoku
She nearly killed Askin
All people she had fought were pretty strong in their own. Saying she only beat one enemy and didn't had big accomplishments than Maki is sincerely wrong.
Meanwhile Maki gets owned by Holding back Hanami. She also got owned by Geto. She gets owned by Dagon. She beats Naoya & few fodders in the verse at best and gets owned by Sukuna who is not even had 10% of still having Yuji's support. Current arc she is been shown as walking L nothing more.
Yoruichi trained MC and Assisted his GC throughput the series. Saying she isn't importance than Maki is just wrong. Yoruichi had more accomplish from both plot and fights than Maki. We don't need backstory for every supporting characters. She had played her role as a supporting character better than Maki.
I say she isn't as important as Maki because when past Soul Society, the second arc of the series, is Yoruchi made into a big deal and actually accomplishes something? Because Maki doesn't do a lot in JJK, she really only has three things (really 2) going for her in terms of accomplishments within the series.
Her destroying the Zenin clan
Killing the second fastest sorcerer alive, twice
And removing World Cutting Slash from Sukuna
Yoruichi just does less than this.
Spoilers for TYBW since I know we got new people checking the series out at the moment below.
You are acting like Maki fought someone important and accomplished something? Also I listed Yoruichi feats belowI say she isn't as important as Maki because when past Soul Society,
FKT and HM invasions are both same arc split into two parts. She fighting Aizen is literally the part of the second arc. Unless you split them both for your sake of arguments.the second arc of the series, is Yoruchi made into a big deal and actually accomplishes something?
Pretty fodder compared to Yoruichi beating Down a squad and it's captain on her own.Because Maki doesn't do a lot in JJK, she really only has three things (really 2) going for her in terms of accomplishments within the series.
Her destroying the Zenin clan
Human Naoya isn't the second fastest Sorcerer alive. Dude gets owned by High tiers and dude already lost to worn out Choso.Killing the second fastest sorcerer alive, twice
Acting like WCS from weakened Sukuna was doing anything is funny. Almost everyone was fast enough to dodge those, and even Kusakabe was able to counter it. I don't see how that really helped anyone so far. It literally needs charge up unless he uses BV.And removing World Cutting Slash from Sukuna
You know this is just a lie at this point. You didn't just say Yoruichi had less important feats. I don't know what you consider important when the smartest character & MC in the series wouldn't be there if it wasn't for her.Yoruichi just does less than this.
Spoilers for TYBW since I know we got new people checking the series out at the moment below.
Because of most things you've listed that Yoruchi accomplished, none of them are ever given that level of importance Maki's biggest accomplishment. And citing her almost killing Askin or fighting Aizen, is like citing the fact that Maki fought Sukuna solo twice. Both of them lose these encounters, and I would argue Maki's treated a lot more important that Yoruchi is in her losing fights. Like against Aizen, she's the least important of the trio to pull up, and she gets offscreened. Isshin and Urahara both get big moments after this within the arc while Yoruichi is just gone. Or how about in the fight against Askin, Yoruchi's biggest moment of that fight is her being forced against her will into a transformation that ultimately fails and is more just padding for Urahara to unveil his bankai then she's gone for the rest of the series. At least Maki's second fight with Sukuna, when she loses it, she's allowed to hop back in afterwards and then remove his unblockable attack from the equation.
I don't like your argument that Askin was going to get killed, so Yoruichi fighting him was not important to the plot. It is clearly important because Yoruichi and Kisuke holding him there allowed Ichigo to freely reach Yhwach and fight him. This just shows your lack of knowledge about Bleach and the importance of Yoruichi and Kisuke fighting Askin. Without her saving Ichigo from Askin, there wouldn't even be any chance for the MC's side to win.That's not even to mention how due to how Yhwach works, Askin's fight ultimately doesn't even matter for the series since Yhwach was just going to kill him in the end. It was literally busywork. Which doesn't really help give importance to these characters.
LMAO. I had forgot she saved Visords when she saved Kisuke.This doesn't make sense with how you're looking at it, so what she doesn't do more big deal stuff past SS, everything she did is already more important than what Maki does and Maki herself. Yoruichi saved Kisuke allowing him to continue more research on the Hog and Hollowfication. She saved the Visored who were gonna be killed, the people who went on to train Ichigo in controlling his Mask powers, a major thing that carried him throughout Hueco Mundo and also participated in both war arcs.
What do you guys think about this
What do you guys think about this
Let's pray Gege explains that lol.Logically this wouldn't be needed, the ct is already in the brain, he doesn't need to make himself the ct. And I feel like this is just a misunderstanding or Gege needs to address this but the Domain he used was for the gravity ct, not his own ct meaning his ct isn't burnt out. It can also be that his ct doesn't get burnt out simply through the mechanics behind it.
Ngl I **** with that concept heavy, i remember there was Kennyr return theory very similar to this