Megumi reacting with a good ol' "just five more minutes" after Yuji tried to wake him up is pretty much the only reason Sukuna ain't dead yet
STOP
grabs ex sword and stabs him.
Counterpoint the vibraslap looks funny
Nah she'll be back with a vibraslap prosthesis in place of her eye which will activate her awesome new Domain Expansion
Peepee pisspiss verse, gets spited by Demon's Souls
Don't **** with Jujutsu Kaisen fans
oh yeah for sure, if yuta didn't stop the use of JL (which he did, pointed out directly after he uses it) he could've just fried sukuna right there right then nothing was stoping that but since megumi has to be all depressed sukuna managed to pull out a win.
right on.
honestly both of ya should just stop both characters have a similar level of importance (with maki having debataly more due to the world slash removal and the heart pierce)
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she didn't defeat aizen and neither did she remove askin by herself.
you wouldn't want to admit your favourite character is not better than other series
Where did I say she defeated Aizen or Askin herself? I didn't even mention anything about Askin being defeated.
Yuta learning a few sword skills isn't a big deal. He trained with everyone and could have picked up those skills from Kusakabe. Even if we credit Maki for teaching him some sword skills, it's nowhere near as significant as Yoruichi teaching Ichigo Bankai (a very important thing) and training his group.
Maki saved Yuji twice at best (though I don't think Yuji needed saving in chapter 213), whereas Yoruichi saved Ichigo at least 4-5 times at very important times.
I have already listed multiple contributions of Yoruichi. In contrast, Maki's only contributions are damaging Sukuna's heart and removing the WCS. Saving Yuji 2 times at best.. teaching Yuta some sword skills? Killing Zenin clan is waste so I wouldn't even consider that had any big impact. Lol
dude that can be thrown right back at ya, you know? sui-feng had the same level of impact as the zenin, actually no scratch that as in soul society she is canonicly weaker then byakuya with her having the lowest spiritual pressure of the captains meaning she wouldn't be quite as big of a hurdle for ichigo as byakuya was but she would've still been a massive burden on ichigo prior to the byakuya fight. The zenin clan on the other hand could've fliped the story on its head for these simple reason;
yeah cuse maki killed them all.
first is sealed the other is on the other side of the culling games.
You can't for reasons I'll state below.
This is obviously you are lying to yourself.
Byakuya literally got blitzed by an out-of-shape Yoruichi. She trained for around three days and geared up before fighting Soifon. There is nowhere it states she was weaker to the point that Ichigo would negate her hax and speed. Her AP is listed as 80/100 while Byakuya's AP was 90/100, so the gap is not that big. Her hax would still have worked on Ichigo with the amount of Reiatsu he had at that time. Not to mention, you ignored that she would still have hindered him due to her speed. Or she could have waited for their fight to be over and killed Ichigo. It's not like he was healthy after fighting Byakuya.
They couldn't; they wouldn't. The only thing they needed was to get rid of Megumi, and for that, they still needed to deal with the Culling Game players. If they entered the colony, they would have been thrown to random places, so there was a 50/50 chance of them even meeting Megumi. Not to mention, Takaba was with Megumi; with his hax, he would have survived nonetheless, and the explosion guy would have killed most of them for the points.
Ok? I don't see the importance of this for Maki.
Same as above them meeting Megumi was 50/50 chances and Culling game players would have killed.most of them
Even before that, they literally had no impact. Also, for the same reasons as above, they didn't have any chances to jump Megumi. Also, killing Megumi barely had any impact either, as Sukuna might have chosen someone else as a vessel. It's rare, but who cares? It's not like he is out of options. He could have waited for another hundred or thousand years.
Same as above they didn't had any openings on Megumi. Even if Gojo was sealed.
one, no she doesn't have statements about her spiritual pressure being on the level of byakuya the only thing she has on him is the speed advantage which is brought up in their first meeting (in few hundred years) in soul socity in chapter 117 when she seals his sword before he can unleash his shikai while he was focusing on ichigo and in 118 where they where compering their shun-po a technique specifically focused on speed of movement with both showing themselves to be comperable to one another with yoruichi being the better user of the technique in the end
and you ignore the fact that base byakuya has the speed stat of 90, while Sui-Feng has a speed stat of 100, ichigo post bankai training was able to flat out blitz byakuya with him having to go into bankai himself to keep up
cept maki killed them all before the culling games began and they where planning to go in and kill all 3 of them at about the same time that they where dealing with hakari (maki finishes the zenin clean up in chapter 152 the cast enters the culling games in 161) and even if we say the zenin clan wouldn't send out the hei and kukuru after megumi straight away there is the whole clan going through the 1 out of 9 barriers and there is again a high likely hood that the zenin clan would wait out a perfect opportunity to strike as half of them are assasins and megumi even with takaba there for help isn't immune to being split up, much like in his fight with reggie star where takaba took on Hazenoki while megumi 1v1'd reggie and in this case we will have the kukuru distracting takaba while the hei (5 semi grade 1 to grade 1 sorcers and naoya on top) would take on megumi leading to his death no matter how you slice it.
it ain't filled with fodder my man, maki is just special grade level something that megumi is just not, we are talking mutliple dozen kukuru aka grade 2 sorcers without CT's and the hei 5 grade 1s and naoya at the helm because if we start labeling grade 1 as fodder then guess what so is yuji and megumi at this point, because it ain't like now where yuji is a clear special grade and megumi is taken over by sukuna, this is the point in the story where both of them where going into full death matches with grade 1 opponents and winning by their skin of their teeth, coming up against multiple grade 1s and dozens of grade 2s at their back means certain death for them at this point.
.... maki took him out, that massive issue that was naoya gone, poof reduced to nothing, it is pretty massive for her narrative importance.
the only culling game players that could kill were mostly in one single colony and they were preocupied with yuta at the time and the only other player that could reliably take out literally 40+ grade 2s, 5 grade 1s and naoya on top, is kashimo and he would be fighting hakari at that point even if we say that only 1/4th of them would be in megumi's colony, that is certain death for him,
and you think that would not have an impact? no mahoraga, no world slash, no world slash= the fight with gojo going on for longer weakening sukuna further and making him lose pretty much instantly the moment kashimo comes in as we'd have sukuna at less than 30% by that point with no world slash to one tap kashimo, megumi dying makes sukuna drastically weaker which in turn makes the current story conlusions just not the same in the slightest because at this point sukuna would be dead to yuji and higaruma after he loses even more output and strength wasting CE on kashimo.
yeah and that would have exactly 0 impact on the story right?
they did, planty of them in fact as mentioned above.
one, no she doesn't have statements about her spiritual pressure being on the level of byakuya the only thing she has on him is the speed advantage which is brought up in their first meeting (in few hundred years) in soul socity in chapter 117 when she seals his sword before he can unleash his shikai while he was focusing on ichigo and in 118 where they where compering their shun-po a technique specifically focused on speed of movement with both showing themselves to be comperable to one another with yoruichi being the better user of the technique in the end
this is the one comperison between yoruichi and base byakuya we get in the arc... well other then this:
"you had no chance, no one there could've fought byakuya and lived"
considering that after their little shun-po exchange yoruichi was out of breath that includes her as well, she is not on his level in terms of attack power, defenses or spirit pressure, the only thing she has on him is speed and then not by much.
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Mobility meaning freely moving one's body. Still Shunko is amp. Also Shumpo is something squad 2 is specialised with. Unlike Byakuya Aizen praises Soifon Shumpo. He may have mobility higher in his base it doesn't change Soifon can amp herself with Shumpo & Shunko..
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Like I already said having 10 point lead isn't getting him anywhere. She fights through speed (Shumpo) and her shikai hax from the Shikai.and speaking of stats
sui-feng
byakuya
she literally loses out to him on all stats other than speed/mobility where she has a 10 point lead and stamina where she has a 30 point lead.
Byakuya literally shatters her on everything else, attack power, spiritual pressure and kido mastery, defense and intellegence
She literally has Shunko to make up for that.
All I see Zenin clan wank So I ain't reading alot.
Nuh ha.
Bruh Maki was out of the fight for a while after that?
She was out for a single chapter after getting knocked back, and then came back with no injuries on her and then got hit again by another BF and this time was unscathed and ready to continue fighting as if it was a normal punch.
First one it's highly likely Ui Ui teleported her to Shoko or she healed herself in the meanwhile.
Cook.
He is also great with foreshadowing.
I was talking about you saying "she has statements of comperable riatsu" which she plain does not, the only thing ever compared between byakuya and yoruichi in the arc is that of speed through shun-po which yoruichi won by not by a mile they both outsped one another with the technique but both managed to react to one anothers movements meaning that both byakuya and yoruichi have comperable speed with yoruichi having greater mastery of shun-po giving her the edge but not to the amount of blitz. Shunko is an unknown amp it revolves around a combination hakuda (a hand to hand fighting style) and kido (the elemental effects) with Shunko, unlike bankai not having any actual stated amp amounts and literally revolves around adding Kido spells to hand to hand combat so we legit can't say its = to bankai (it ain't).
shunko does not seem to amp speed (at least for the low level of it that Sui-Feng has since she at that time just discovered the techniques and couldn't even hold it indefinitely she ain't got no thunder god in here) and byakuya also has shumpo & bankai on top meaning he should by all account be as fast if not flat out faster due to the massive amp of bankai.
neither is it getting her anyway, byakuya despite both having a bankai and knowing how to use shun-po couldn't keep up with ichigomobility
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Like I already said having 10 point lead isn't getting him anywhere.
she won't be able to keep up with bankai ichigo just outright, not in power nor in speed.
Kido is literally part of her main amp which is Shunko.... like what are you on about? Also no defence is very much needed because ichigo is blitzing her much like he blitzed byakuya who again has both shun-po and bankai.
unknown level of amp claiming it to be as large as the 5-10 of bankai is insane.
never said he did, I said that ichigo would use the hollow mask sooner or later and that is lights out for Sui-Feng as she is not only going to be one tapped by ichigo who is now anywhere from 50 to 100 times stronger than her but waaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster, unless you want to claim Sui-Feng is 50 to 100 times faster and stronger than
its stated fact what do you mean, the literally average from G2 to G1 which is the level of our protag and dutorag.All I see Zenin clan wank So I ain't reading alot.
still a massive narrative impact which is what we are arguing here.
Yuh hu
so have I for maki, they both did a lot of similar shit, saving the protag multiple times, taking out threats before they get out of hand, helping learn more about the main antags new abilities and helping beat em. It is that simple they both had massive narrative impact in their stories and both are well written (for shonen this ain't no elden ring we ain't getting marika level well written from this art style).
Jjk has been outselling one piece for years
well for two years to be exact but still very impressive.
In the novel, it's clearly mentioned that all Clan heads have the same level of Reiatsu. So, obviously, Yoruichi has the same level of Reiatsu as Byakuya. Arc has nothing to do with Reiatsu; it's not like they would get weaker over time. Also, I'm pretty sure there was a statement that Shunpo needs spiritual pressure amps. So, Yoruichi was relative to Byakuya either way in spiritual pressure.
Not having Bankai multipliers doesn't change the fact that Byakuya didn't have any big speed amps with his Bankai. In fact, he reduced Ichigo's speed with his technique.
Shunko does amps overall sts. So obviously it amps speed. Whenever she uses Shunko we literally see she getting faster and Blizting her opponents.
He couldn't even keep up with Out of shape Yoruichi.
She doesn't need to keep up with his power. She can keep up with his speed. We are talking about same duo Yoruichi and Soifon who were able to jump on Aizen while Bankai Ichigo got stomped. His wounds were patched up by Orihime so there is no need to say he got slower
Base Byakuya is objectively slower than Base Soifon. His speed didn't get amped with his Bankai multipliers, so it's better to say Soifon has more speed advantage than him.
Even with Hollow Mask Ichigo almost lost to Byakuya
Well I'm not expecting you to agree anyway. I don't think any new gen fans would want to agree with their favourite character having less importance against a old gen character they barely know.
Some people here thinks Maki had Biggest impact on plot than any Female characters from Bleach.
they spittin, but ya'll writing paragraphs this big is insane
I am saying she has the same level of impact as yoruichi.
I mean.... honestly designs aside one piece women might have some of the best characters in shonen jump (at least when it comes to the main crew, robin is a great character not gonna lie)All this yapping only for one piece women to clear
