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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

YukaSama4 said:
Chapter 256 probably starts with speed amp, Gojo is explaining why black flash cant be used on will and hes saying if its just about applying CE within 0.000001s i can aim for that and pull black flashes off but blah blah blah

However i used google translate so theres a high chance its not talking about this lmao
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Gege might be threatening my Bf crt 🥸
 
LOOOL:

The way Gege draws Satoru NOW has more aura. How he drew Fish-boy Gojo didn't look cool, but this style of Gojo where he doesn't look like a mouth breather looks better
 
Anyone else tired of these random flashbacks to conveniently explain or flesh out a concept that should've just been given to us in real time?
 
Rosa said:
@Guacamolefletcher waiting on my apology for all those black flash debates we had now that I'm vindicated 🥱
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How are you vindicated? It literally confirms what I think.

BTW the debate he's talking about is I said BF is 1 millionth of a second, so Gojo can't be drastically faster and FTL, while he thinks Gojo is FTL
 
Just saw a tweet about how Gojo says there is no definitive way to activate it and says he goes all out when he imbues his punches with ct. The ultimate requirement, as we always knew is that extreme concentration must be met
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
How are you vindicated? It literally confirms what I think.

BTW the debate he's talking about is I said BF is 1 millionth of a second, so Gojo can't be drastically faster and FTL, while he thinks Gojo is FTL
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Gojo literally said if BF was ONLY the timeframe then it wouldn't be difficult to pull them off, but BF requires additional things down to even one's environmental factors like temperature and humidity. How can you possibly think this is still an anti-feat for Gojo's speed?
 
Rosa said:
Gojo literally said if BF was ONLY the timeframe then it wouldn't be difficult to pull them off, but BF requires additional things down to even one's environmental factors like temperature and humidity. How can you possibly think this is still an anti-feat for Gojo's speed?
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yo?
 
rough translation !

黒閃」は 呪力と打撃の誤差が0.00001 以内だと くろかみ 発生する空間の歪み なんだけど
The 'Black Flash' is a distortion in space where the margin of error between cursed power and physical impact is within 0.00001
これ おち 僕はちょっと 説明不足だと 思ってる せつめいぶそく っていうか 種がそれだけなら 僕は狙って出せる
Regarding this, I think there's a bit of a lack of explanation. Or rather, if it's just that, I can aim and bring it out
例えば正拳に 呪力を籠めて げき 打撃を 繰り出したとする
For example, let's say you concentrate cursed power into a straight punch and deliver a blow
そこに 籠められた呪力は じゅりっく ①拳を強化する呪力 あいて じゅりょく ②相手にぶつける呪力 ③その両方を担う呪力 に分けられるんだけど
The cursed power concentrated there can be divided into (1) Cursed power to enhance the fist, (2) Cursed power to strike the opponent, and (3) Cursed power that fulfills both roles
ミートのタイミング だけじゃなく このブレンドによっても 「」は出たり 出なかったりする
Not only the timing of the strike, but also whether 'it' appears or not depends on this blend
そして このブレンド加減も その時の環境によって 化するんだよ 相手の呪力とか 自分の肉体の ・デーションとか
And this blend also changes depending on the environment at that time, such as the opponent's cursed power or the condition of one's own body
これ言うと 笑われるんだけど 実は気温や湿度も 関係あると思ってるよ 「黒閃」は空間の 話でもあるしね
I might get laughed at for saying this, but I actually think temperature and humidity also play a role. 'Black Flash' is also about the space, after all
ようこくせよ 要は「黒閃」の 発生条件には これっていう正解が ないんだよね
In essence, there's no definitive answer to the conditions for the occurrence of 'Black Flash'
それに僕は 本気でやるとき 打撃に術式を絡めるし そうなるともう 「黒閃」は僕でも 運次第って感じ
Moreover, when I'm serious, I incorporate techniques into my strikes, so at that point, 'Black Flash' feels like it's dependent on luck even for me
 
Rosa said:
Gojo literally said if BF was ONLY the timeframe then it wouldn't be difficult to pull them off, but BF requires additional things down to even one's environmental factors like temperature and humidity. How can you possibly think this is still an anti-feat for Gojo's speed?
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Bro might be cooking for FTL
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
yo?
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don’t get hyped up, this is coming from this guy:
He thinks Yuji is 16x piercing blood speed in Shibuya:
Gojo, even as a kid, was leagues above Awasaka [ch96 p9 - 10] along with being implied to be the strongest in the world upon birth, [ch96 p11 + Fanbook p101 - Translation] and Awasaka, who hadn't gotten any stronger since that point, [ch96 p14] was able to hit and damage Yuji despite being in a 2v1 fight. [ch96 p13] This same Yuji is stated to be faster and more agile than Maki, [ch48 p10] with Maki being capable of catching Mai's bullets at point blank range [ch42 p13 - 14] via moving at mach 27 speeds, with these bullets being created [ch42 p13] and empowered with cursed energy. [ch18 p2] This is consistent as this same Yuji was capable of reacting at point blank range to Choso's piercing blood, [ch103 p5 - 6] which can exceed the speed of sound [ch101 p12 + Fanbook p153] and the one Yuji dodged being shown to travel at mach 1.6 [ch103 p5] to potentially mach 2.6, [ch135 p4] though even if we assume Choso's piercing blood only moves at mach 1 speeds, Yuji must've been moving at over mach 16 speeds - potentially mach 27 speeds if we include Yuji's forward motion into the timeframe and not just the evasion of it.
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He thinks it’s valid to say Yuji is subrel here:
possibly Sub-Relativistic (Yuji is able to cross a substantial distance to hit Hanami within the time frame of a black flash (0.000001 seconds), [ch48 p16 - 18] requiring speeds equal to 1.2% the speed of light)
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He thinks cursed spirit Naoya = Mach 35.2
This same Toji is equal to Maki in speed [ch198 p19] with that same Maki being capable of moving faster than cursya, [ch197 p11 - 12] the same cursya who can reach speeds of mach 35.2, [ch191 p10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14] and is capable of traversing a battlefield at mach 64 speeds when clashing with Sukuna
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Gojo at least mhs+ likely ftl
At least Massively Hypersonic +, likely Faster Than Light
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todo is just a “normal grade 1 sorcerer” for having a “53k IQ” and it’s likely Gojo has more than a 53k IQ because of it
likely Extraordinary Genius (Due to the prior statements and feats, he should be smarter than regular grade 1 sorcerers who possess an IQ of 53,000 [ch50 p5])
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He hasn’t been known to provide reasonable interpretations when it comes to speed OR AP OR translations OR anything that would radically upscale the verse
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
don’t get hyped up, this is coming from this guy:
He thinks Yuji is 16x piercing blood speed in Shibuya:


He thinks it’s valid to say Yuji is subrel here:


He thinks cursed spirit Naoya = Mach 35.2


Gojo at least mhs+ likely ftl


todo is just a “normal grade 1 sorcerer” for having a “53k IQ” and it’s likely Gojo has more than a 53k IQ because of it

He hasn’t been known to provide reasonable interpretations when it comes to speed OR AP OR translations OR anything that would radically upscale the verse
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This is so ******* disingenuous lmfao

The Yuji thing was the biggest calc I could find for the feat with the sole purpose of the profile being to see how high you can get JJK when not considering the SoS anti-feats later on, it literally serves as just a feat catalogue and you know this since you were there when I made it. The same applies to the other highball feats I have listed, again for the sake of cataloguing high end JJK metas.

Also blatantly dishonest to not address a person's arguments but instead try to slander their credibility and name based on completely separate points they may or may not hold (which I don't hold, btw).
 
@Guacamolefletcher Don't you think it's telling that you need to lie about people and pivot from the conversation to keep your credibility in light of counter arguments? Honestly that was such a disgusting tactic you just tried right now, you're the epitome of an agenda-driven person 😭
 
Rosa said:
he Yuji thing was the biggest calc I could find for the feat with the sole purpose of the profile being to see how high you can get JJK when not considering the SoS anti-feats later on
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You just made that up on the spot, your real reason for doing that is you’ve said and claimed several times that the stuff in JJK is “incorrect physics” and it’s more likely the speed of sound in JJK is faster because people early on dodge “real” bullets (hence why you made the “why is Mai’s bullet rubber” thread, to bait for arguments against this) and that the calcs for people being supersonic while slower than Naoya are “based on simple concepts like speed = d/t” so they take precedence over statements
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
You just made that up on the spot, your real reason for doing that is you’ve said and claimed several times that the stuff in JJK is “incorrect physics” and it’s more likely the speed of sound in JJK is faster because people early on dodge “real” bullets (hence why you made the “why is Mai’s bullet rubber” thread, to bait for arguments against this) and that the calcs for people being supersonic while slower than Naoya are “based on simple concepts like speed = d/t” so they take precedence over statements
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Even if all this is true, let's just accept that I think all these wacky opinions outside of discord debates and wiki profile hypotheticals despite me stressing in my Maki thread several times that I'm okay with her being subsonic, let's just accept all that. Respond to my point about black flash, admit you were wrong
 
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