Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[LIFE_OF_KING]

*"Bottomless" CE that lasts a few moments at best

Yuta have never run out of ce lol. Sukuna with a CE pool equal to Yuta's was stated to be capable of spamming domain expansion at will

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Ngl, I feel like we often glaze Yuta too much. On the other hand I got Elde and M3X together defending Yuta.

It's more like Aizen and Ichigo teaming up against Yhwach. LMAO

 

[Giannysmag]

*Shit tier CE manip.

Fair

*Weakest physicals among his peers.

Also fair

*"Bottomless" CE that lasts a few moments at best

Rika would like to have a word with you

*Needs his shikigami at all times to use his own CT and without it his CT is useless

Domain

*Prodigy my ass, Higuruma and Yuji run circles around him

Higuruma makes literally everyone look like a bum in terms of his rate of growth

*Higuruma likely have done it better with Gojo's body (if only)

Read above

*His own domain probably requires Rika/the ring too

Headcannon

Ngl, I feel like we often glaze Yuta too much. On the other hand I got Elde and M3X together defending Yuta.

Well now you have me too

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Yuta have never run out of ce lol. Sukuna with a CE pool equal to Yuta's was stated to be capable of spamming domain expansion at will

He did against Ryu and Uro in CG

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Yuta have never run out of ce lol. Sukuna with a CE pool equal to Yuta's was stated to be capable of spamming domain expansion at will

He did in sendai after using RCT a couple of times

 

[M3X_2.0]

Yuji is not a prodigy like Yuta I’m sorry. Yuta learned RCT and barrier techniques by himself. Yuji needed others despite having fights that pushed him to his limits.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Rika would like to have a word with you

Once again, requires a Shikigami.

Domain

Likely requires Rika/the ring

Higuruma makes literally everyone look like a bum in terms of his rate of growth

Considering how much people glaze Yuta for being such a prodigy, blessed by the blood of 2 clans and all that shit you would expect better.

Headcannon

It's implied enough

 

[M3X_2.0]

He did against Ryu and Uro in CG

To be fair, he was already fighting before them against Dhruv and was only using stuff like RCT to heal and output, which spends more CE.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

To be fair, he was already fighting before them against Dhruv and was only using stuff like RCT to heal and output, which spends more CE.

Yeah but I'm just talking about his CE pool getting drained out.

 

[Giannysmag]

He did in sendai after using RCT a couple of times

Man killed Druv, got stabbed by Kurashushi, got blasted by Thin Ice Breaker, got blasted again by Granite Blast, took several more Granite Blasts, fought Ryu in CQC despite the difference in output then got blasted again by TIB and only then did he start running out. That's a pretty insane streak if we are being honest and again this is all without Rika

 

[M3X_2.0]

Actually, Elde, I remember very well you arguing that Yuta having a bottomless CE pool was retconned LMFAO

 

[M3X_2.0]

Man killed Druv, got stabbed by Kurashushi, got blasted by Thin Ice Breaker, got blasted again by Granite Blast, took several more Granite Blasts, fought Ryu in CQC despite the difference in output then got blasted again by TIB and only then did he start running out. That's a pretty insane streak if we are being honest and again this is all without Rika

At that point you can count on your fingers how many sorcerers would survive this let alone end up with a bit of CE to spend.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Actually, Elde, I remember very well you arguing that Yuta having a bottomless CE pool was retconned LMFAO

I do argue Yuta lacks efficiency compared to others but definitely not his CE pool. Maybe you remember someone else arguments as mine.

 

[Giannysmag]

At that point you can count on your fingers how many sorcerers would survive this let alone end up with a bit of CE to spend.

Honestly only Gojo or Sukuna would be taking any of those attack without needing RCT, everyone else is getting ****** up

 

[M3X_2.0]

I do argue Yuta lacks efficiency compared to others but definitely not his CE pool. Maybe you remember someone else arguments as mine.

Nah it was you LMAO I remember clearly and I even remember where I was and I was doing that day lol

 

[M3X_2.0]

I do argue Yuta lacks efficiency compared to others but definitely not his CE pool. Maybe you remember someone else arguments as mine.

Also I believe he lacks efficiency because he don’t need to worry about that, as he won’t run out of CE using his CTs or when Rika is by his side.

Still, in terms of CE control I believe he’s far better than any other student given his feats with CE and how only Gojo with Six Eyes noticed that he was lacking (and even then, he was lacking compared to what he could be, pretty sure ******* Ino does not have better CE control than him lmao)

 

[Giannysmag]

Nah it was you LMAO I remember clearly and I even remember where I was and I was doing that day lol

That's some horror movie villain energy, bro remembers everytime his pookie's been slandered

 

[M3X_2.0]

That's some horror movie villain, bro remembers everytime his pookie's been slandered

My r*tarded mind remembers some very specific stuff it’s insane

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

He did in sendai after using RCT a couple of times

Idk, by my memory I thought he was just on his physical limit
But alright

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Nah it was you LMAO I remember clearly and I even remember where I was and I was doing that day lol

 

[M3X_2.0]

Anyways go to the Yuki Vs Yorozu thread and vote

 

[Giannysmag]

Anyways go to the Yuki Vs Yorozu thread and vote

Who we votin for?

 

[M3X_2.0]

Who we votin for?

Whoever you think it wind with the presented arguments, it’s for my top 10 strongest JJK characters thread

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Who we votin for?

The hot one

 

[M3X_2.0]

Thread 'JJK Top 10 Strongest Characters.'
https://vsbattles.com/threads/jjk-top-10-strongest-characters.173461/

 

[Giannysmag]

The hot one

Inconclusive it is then

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Yorozu is using the body of a school girl tho, so kill her

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Yorozu is using the body of a school girl tho, so kill her

Jokes on her I'm 10

 

[M3X_2.0]

Might as well make Yuji Vs Yorozu, then Yuki and Kashimo to see where exactly he ranks

We need a SS key though lol

 

[Shmooply]

Then dude somehow comes back to life with his original body without any explanation about how his brain was transferred back.

Takaba did it. Trvst.

 

[Arkenis]

Also I might need to read again but I’m pretty sure Gojo stated that Yuta’s CE manip was shitty happened before they body swapped.

Its mentioned both times and one is when Yuta is in Gojo's body

 

[M3X_2.0]

Its mentioned both times and one is when Yuta is in Gojo's body

Yeah I believe Gojo might’ve fixed that

 

[Arkenis]

It's literally in the same scan I sent

Okay, this is simply how Cleave works, its got nothing to do with Yuji's durability.

He didn't say Yuta and Yuji were inferior to Ryu. He said they don't surpass him. There is a difference between the words 'inferior' and 'surpass.'

Alright I put it bar for bar now.

BF

Thought this was Yuji hitting BF but I'll add it.

Him taking the cleave to face.

Also Domain Yuji survived had full output of MS

I already have the domain one lol. And that cleave looks like it took his eye out

 

[Arkenis]

I understand the low output statement by Sukuna, but I still don't fully grasp how it applies in matches.

The issue is that it was about to cut off Sukuna's leg, while Yuji's Black Flashes weren't able to deal nearly as much damage to Sukuna.

Even if we classify it as low output, there should still be a limit, right?

Yuji's Cleave had enough output to sever Sukuna's leg if he hadn't pushed Yuji back with his Dismantle strikes. Sukuna still received a deep cut and was left bleeding.

Shouldn't his Cleave have enough output to cut opponents who are physically equal to him?

What I want to know is even if we say low output what's the limit we are going to set it for.

Cutting and punches are different for damage so not really fair to compare.

 

[Gokukid2005]

Yeah and there is a reason as to why he was the previous main character, and why he was away for the first few arcs.

Gege knows Yuta is strong, he made him purposefully strong. Notice how Gege always finds a way to keep Yuta away from the main focus. Shibuya? Wasn’t there. Meguna appeared? Wasn’t there.

Downplaying Yuta goes against the whole manga because at any given opportunity Gege was there wanking him.

Pulled up and they thought it was a scarier Gojo

 

[SunDaGamer]

Yuta have never run out of ce lol. Sukuna with a CE pool equal to Yuta's was stated to be capable of spamming domain expansion at will

Yuta was bottoming out in Sendai and had to fully manifest Rika to replenish his cursed energy reserves, Sukuna's efficiency is just really good (to the extent that only a Six Eyes user is said to have better efficiency)

 

[Gokukid2005]

“Oh no!! Yuta apparently died by the World Cutting Slash!!”

comes back in Gojo’s body and got new upgrades like the basketball Domain

Honestly while I still think the conclusion to that plotthread was a bit half baked and that can definitely be chalked up to Gege's health issues and wanting the series to be over quickly which Ion blame him for
There's something rlly nice about Yuta not only staying alive till the end of the series but also being saved by Rika, a physical twisted manifestation of his love, on the same day as the first time the year before after another suicidal play he made in honor of his loved ones

 

[LIGHTYW]

He spent those 42 seconds fighting. After the WSC launched, he got punched by Agito, killed Agito (at which point Maho was trying to protect Sukuna), decked Maho with BF, threw Sukuna at Maho, BFd Maho and Sukuna, launched Red, Maho went after Red, Maho got decked again, Purple gets activated and Maho is killed. There was no point there where Maho would have just been free to launch WSC, which is why he didn't not because of PIS.

Gojo was literally defenseless and stunned by sukuna's kick at chap 234.., also, he dont need time to use, infact, he would be even faster than sukuna (as he dont need signs, he can literally just throw) if sukuna were able to spam it against kashimo, dont see why maho wouldnt and sukuna didnt ordered maho to spam a wcs net on gojo after that kick because the plot needed maho gone, so the squad could have a chance, thats why he didnt

 

[LIGHTYW]

He spent those 42 seconds fighting. After the WSC launched, he got punched by Agito, killed Agito (at which point Maho was trying to protect Sukuna), decked Maho with BF, threw Sukuna at Maho, BFd Maho and Sukuna, launched Red, Maho went after Red, Maho got decked again, Purple gets activated and Maho is killed. There was no point there where Maho would have just been free to launch WSC, which is why he didn't not because of PIS.

Also you are again ignoring the fact that there are countless points in the fight where Gojo was as fast or faster than Sukuna, which I can list if you'd want. It'd be increadibly disingenuous to claim that all those moments are because of plot and not him actually being that fast just because of this one scene. Infact it would be the exact opposite, if this was really a blitz it would be completely inconsistent with every other showing in the fight and thus it would be the outlier

I kinda see it now but like... that still wouldn't be a blitz. In the panel afterward there's no speedlines on Gojo's arm meaning he had already stopped the punch when Sukuna was moving. It's just a regulaer dodge from Sukuna and they were dodging eachothers punches all the time at that point

Show me then.. But show a panel where sukuna is actually trying please and sukuna being superior to gojo isnt inconsistent at all lmao, but sukuna was consistently holding back through their fight due to adaptation, which made gojo a bit relative

And idk how that wouldnt be a blitz lol, because gojo doesnt react to sukuna movements at all, literally he throws a punch at sukuna, sukuna dodges the punch and moves behind him and during that, gojo dont move a inch and still looking straight forward, to the exact same place that sukuna was before even moving ( when sukuna ALREADY WAS behind him at that moment ) lmao

literally exactly how a speedblitz works

 

[Giannysmag]

Show me then.. But show a panel where sukuna is actually trying please and sukuna being superior to gojo isnt inconsistent at all lmao, but sukuna was consistently holding back through their fight due to adaptation, which made gojo a bit relative

The only way you can argue Sukuna was holding back is in the sense that he wasn't using 10s during the domain war and didn't try to destroy Gojo's domain from the inside. It is never at any point in the fight implied that Sukuna was holding back in terms of his stats and if your take away from this 12 chapter fight was that that is the case and that Gojo was only keeping up because Sukuna wanted to adapt, then I urge you to learn how to read.

But let's play that ball game. In Chapter 235 Sukuna has already completed the adaptation process and has the blueprint for WCS. The narrator also calls out the fact that he is scared for the first time in his life, so at this point he would have 0 reason to be holding back in any way. And guess what happens, Gojo still runs ciclres around him, can react to his punches and even outspeeds Pirecing Blood.