Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[LIGHTYW]

oh shit my bad, i thought it would get censored.. Sorry

 

[Giannysmag]

Gojo taked 42 sec to charge purple but maho wouldnt have time to use wsc, huh, also, if wasnt for plot, maho wouldve had aimed in the head, not the arms..

He spent those 42 seconds fighting. After the WSC launched, he got punched by Agito, killed Agito (at which point Maho was trying to protect Sukuna), decked Maho with BF, threw Sukuna at Maho, BFd Maho and Sukuna, launched Red, Maho went after Red, Maho got decked again, Purple gets activated and Maho is killed. There was no point there where Maho would have just been free to launch WSC, which is why he didn't not because of PIS.

Also you are again ignoring the fact that there are countless points in the fight where Gojo was as fast or faster than Sukuna, which I can list if you'd want. It'd be increadibly disingenuous to claim that all those moments are because of plot and not him actually being that fast just because of this one scene. Infact it would be the exact opposite, if this was really a blitz it would be completely inconsistent with every other showing in the fight and thus it would be the outlier

Then its his dick? Its obviously a punch, one panel before that we can see sukunas punches being blurred, exactly like that..

I kinda see it now but like... that still wouldn't be a blitz. In the panel afterward there's no speedlines on Gojo's arm meaning he had already stopped the punch when Sukuna was moving. It's just a regulaer dodge from Sukuna and they were dodging eachothers punches all the time at that point

 

[SunDaGamer]

Ngl she ain't cooking with this take, if you actually paid any attention to JJK0 you can tell that Geto's hatred of non-Sorcerers is extremely racism-coded. He literally sprays deodorant over himself every time he comes in contact with one because he's convinced they have a "smell" that he finds disgusting. He refers to his own ideal as a desire for a "chosen people", which has strong nationalist vibes to it. Trying to make him some kinda liberationist revolutionary totally ignores everything about his character besides the stuff in Hidden Inventory.

Also, if non-sorcerers abusing and marginalizing sorcerers is such a widespread systemic issues in the JJK world, then we maybe should've seen it happen aside from one superstitious backwards village and the US military attacking some sorcerers and instantly getting owned. The focus is instead solely placed on the higher-ups and the Three Clans, the later of which Geto seems to have little issue with.

Geto fans trying to make him out to be some valiant revolutionnary and not a mentally ill guy relishing in committing genocide after reaching a breaking point is so funny to me, I genuinely think some of these people would start making excuses for Hitler if they found out about his sad backstory

Geto straight up called Maki a failure of the Zenin Clan and a monkey but some Geto fans the other day were talking about how Geto was a feminist allegory

 

[Giannysmag]

Also this is just not true, the whole reason Gojo got sealed was because he was trying to protect the people in the train station and even asks of their status after being unsealed

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Geto was a feminist allegory

 

[SunDaGamer]

I've seen people who have gone so far off the rails that they headcanon Geto into being a woman (the jokes about JJK's female cast write themselves)

 

[Arkenis]

Sukuna just has a big hate boner for Yuji and was shit talking him every opportunity he got. I think it's pretty evident that in terms of stats Yuji was comparable to the heavy hitters even pre awakening

Not at all. Yuji does the least every time they jump him. And how can you say this when Sukuna has always focused on Yuji's soul hits as his main thing ignoring everything else?

 

[SunDaGamer]

Also this is just not true, the whole reason Gojo got sealed was because he was trying to protect the people in the train station and even asks of their status after being unsealed

Gojo also realises that he can't save everyone and promises to exorcise the Disaster Curses in return then he starts frowning once Mahito starts massacaring people left and right, like Jujutsu HQ probably would've been fine with Gojo killing that crowd of people in exchange for the exorcism of several unregistered and highly intelligent Special Grade curses, the army of Transfigured Humans Mahito unleashed as well as Jujutsu terrorist Kenjaku with his full Domain Expansion within that Shibuya Station curtain but Gojo still does his own thing regardless of what Jujutsu Society says

 

[Giannysmag]

It's also really funny how they claim that sorcerers are being oppressed by non sorcerers when, as Nanami showed us, they can literally just quit working as sorcerers if they really hate the job

 

[Arkenis]

It's also really funny how they claim that sorcerers are being oppressed by non sorcerers when, as Nanami showed us, they can literally just quit working as sorcerers if they really hate the job

Its more of an overall thing. You can quit but that doesn't stop you from being pursued by cursed users or having to fight curses and curses come from humans and anyone with good morals and a sense of duty just fall into it like Yuji and Geto.

 

[SunDaGamer]

It's also really funny how they claim that sorcerers are being oppressed by non sorcerers when, as Nanami showed us, they can literally just quit working as sorcerers if they really hate the job

I really hate how that tweet is trying to pin non-sorcerers as some privileged class while Jujutsu sorcerers are an oppressed minority slaving away for them like it's 1800s America when most non-sorcerers are unaware of the existence of Cursed Spirits and we are never shown sorcerers being discriminated against once Jujutsu Society is exposed to the public when Yuji, Megumi and Nobara don't have to carry their mission in secrecy.

People give Light Yagami flack for using the Death Note to indiscriminately kill off whoever the police deem to be criminals (which probably included a lot of innocent people) instead of actually using it to usher policy changes by giving politicians a good reason to do their jobs properly, Geto should be getting that same criticism for doing nothing about the Jujutsu Higher-Ups and the Big Three Clans and defaulting to committing genocide like Light

 

[Giannysmag]

Not at all. Yuji does the least every time they jump him.

In the domain fight, Yuji and Yuta deal similair damage with their strikes, move at the same pace, take similair damage from Sukuna's slashes and when Sukuna mentions that he needs to make contact to kill he is talking about both of them. Mind you Yuta is also domain amped in this scene and Yuji isn't. (M3X don't jump me)

Even if Yuji is the weakest heavy hitter pre Awakening he is still on their level, full stop.

And how can you say this when Sukuna has always focused on Yuji's soul hits as his main thing ignoring everything else?

I don't really understand your point here

 

[Giannysmag]

I really hate how that tweet is trying to pin non-sorcerers as some privileged class while Jujutsu sorcerers are an oppressed minority slaving away for them like it's 1800s America when most non-sorcerers are unaware of the existence of Cursed Spirits and we are never shown sorcerers being discriminated against once Jujutsu Society is exposed to the public when Yuji, Megumi and Nobara don't have to carry their mission in secrecy.

People give Light Yagami flack for using the Death Note to indiscriminately kill off whoever the police deem to be criminals (which probably included a lot of innocent people) instead of actually using it to usher policy changes by giving politicians a good reason to do their jobs properly, Geto should be getting that same criticism for doing nothing about the Jujutsu Higher-Ups and the Big Three Clans and defaulting to committing genocide like Light

"No but you see non sorcerers create curses so the only logical thing to do is to kill them all. Forget about the fact that non sorcerers fall victim to curses far more often than sorcerers do, they are just privilaged assholes that make life worse for my hot Yaoi king Geto"

 

[Puppet43]

The conversation rn is this video in a nutshell

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

"GETO THEY CAN ******* DROP A NUCLEAR BOMB AT US. STOP THAT BULLSHIT"

 

[Shmooply]

I've seen people who have gone so far off the rails that they headcanon Geto into being a woman (the jokes about JJK's female cast write themselves)

Mfs do NOT like gay relationships

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Sukuna hadn't thought of the whole Jujutsu vs physical ability thing by that point. That is something that first crossed his mind in Shinjuku

It has nothing to do with Shinjuku Showdown. Sukuna clearly mentioned his ideals during Kashimo conversation.

"But focusing your cursed energy on the woman was the correct choice" he is saying that Maki would be more easily capable of breaking out of the ice than Yuji would

Yeah it was because of sealing. Sukuna likely didn't had any intention of killing Maki at this point.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Yuta is also domain amped in this scene and Yuji isn't. (M3X don't jump me)

Nuh he is ready to jump on you.

 

[M3X_2.0]

You need to take into account that Yuta was Domain amped and Sukuna was serious and trying harder against Maki.

Nuh uh I don’t lie about the character I’m a fanboy of, I only tell truths.

 

[Giannysmag]

It has nothing to do with Shinjuku Showdown. Sukuna clearly mentioned his ideals during Kashimo conversation.

What the hell does the conversation with Kashimo have to do with Maki man

Yeah it was because of sealing. Sukuna likely didn't had any intention of killing Maki at this point.

It's still a point of how tuff/strong she is that she needs a lot more CE to seal off with ice compared to Yuji

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

In the domain fight, Yuji and Yuta deal similair damage with their strikes, move at the same pace, take similair damage from Sukuna's slashes and when Sukuna mentions that he needs to make contact to kill he is talking about both of them. Mind you Yuta is also domain amped in this scene and Yuji isn't. (M3X don't jump me)

But you are right tho, Yuta is like the weakest of them all

 

[M3X_2.0]

I’ve said this before and once again I’ll say it: I believe in one thing called character archetypes. The character archetypes of Maki and Yuji are “physically stronger” characters and everything around them is written and drawn in order to represent their archetype.

Yuta, on the other hand, does not belong to this archetype and rather more like a mixed one.

Yuta does not hit as strong as Maki and Yuji, but he’s not noticeably weaker than them.

Yuta does not move and react as fast as Maki and Yuji, but he’s not noticeably slower than them.

What makes Yuta the “second only to Satoru Gojo” and one of the strongest in the verse is not because he hit hards and blitz people, but because he is as strong and fast as the others WHILE also having hax abilities and being a huge prodigy.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

What the hell does the conversation with Kashimo have to do with Maki man

He calls everyone as his meals or something he just wants savor the flavors in his life until he dies.
Against Maki it was stated Sukuna didn't had a role of his own but because of Maki lacking CE he had forced himself a role of proving Jujustu> HR.

It's still a point of how tuff/strong she is that she needs a lot more CE to seal off with ice compared to Yuji

It never stated anything about strength or toughness.

 

[M3X_2.0]

The only thing I believe Yuta outclasses them is in durability given the amount of CE he has allows him to constantly protect his body.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Yuta does not move and react as fast as Maki and Yuji, but he’s not noticeably slower than them.

Also in this aspect I’d say Maki even outclasses them both. I believe she has better speed portrayal then Yuji and Yuta.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Why TF now of all time Yuta downplay is going on here

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Maki is physically above him in every sense.

Yuji is like Maki but with way more durability, cursed energy and busted CT

Hakari has access to essentially infinite CE and endurance

Yuta has a shikigami ig

He is the tamest/weakest among them, with Yuji at the top.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Maki is physically above him in every sense.

Yuji is like Maki but with way more durability, cursed energy and busted CT

Hakari has access to essentially infinite CE and endurance

Yuta has a shinigami ig

He is the tamest among them, with Yuji at the top.

Stop baiting dude Elde won’t fvck you

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

But you are right tho, Yuta is like the weakest of them all

You were once one of the greatest yuta defenders

 

[M3X_2.0]

Why TF now of all time Yuta downplay is going on here

Nah not really downplay he still beats Maki and Yuji, but I’m won’t be here lying about him and Maki and Yuji.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Stop baiting dude Elde won’t fvck you

Blame Gege fam

 

[M3X_2.0]

Blame Gege fam

Gege wanks Yuta tf you on

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Gege wanks Yuta tf you on

IIRC Gege even said Yuta is his favourite in somewhere

 

[Giannysmag]

Maki is physically above him in every sense.

Yuji is like Maki but with way more durability, cursed energy and busted CT

Hakari has access to essentially infinite CE and endurance

Yuta has a shikigami ig

He is the tamest/weakest among them, with Yuji at the top.

This is certainly one of the takes of all time

 

[M3X_2.0]

IIRC Gege even said Yuta is his favourite in somewhere

Yeah and there is a reason as to why he was the previous main character, and why he was away for the first few arcs.

Gege knows Yuta is strong, he made him purposefully strong. Notice how Gege always finds a way to keep Yuta away from the main focus. Shibuya? Wasn’t there. Meguna appeared? Wasn’t there.

Downplaying Yuta goes against the whole manga because at any given opportunity Gege was there wanking him.

 

[M3X_2.0]

“Oh no!! Yuta apparently died by the World Cutting Slash!!”

comes back in Gojo’s body and got new upgrades like the basketball Domain

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Yeah and there is a reason as to why he was the previous main character, and why he was away for the first few arcs.

Gege knows Yuta is strong, he made him purposefully strong. Notice how Gege always finds a way to keep Yuta away from the main focus. Shibuya? Wasn’t there. Meguna appeared? Wasn’t there.

Downplaying Yuta goes against the whole manga because at any given opportunity Gege was there wanking him.

I can see Yuta cooking Meguna but Shibuya Sukuna would have cooked Yuta NGL.

 

[Giannysmag]

I like how the basketball domain is what you note and not him being able to use the limitless + six eyes

 

[M3X_2.0]

I can see Yuta cooking Meguna but Shibuya Sukuna would have cooked Yuta NGL.

I was talking about Yuta in the same position as Gojo, his DE could be fully opened and select Choso, Mahito, Hanami and Jogo and then kill them.

Sukuna could maybe not even get awakened like that.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I like how the basketball domain is what you note and not him being able to use the limitless + six eyes

Bro somehow could miss BLUE AGAINST SOMEONE IN FRONT OF HIM