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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

LIFE_OF_KING said:
He didn't wanted to use Shrine because by using Ten Shadows the sin of killing Tsumiki would be in Megumi's hand, sealing his soul even more, not because he thought that Yorozu wasn't worth of the Shrine
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Yeah and using a technique that he has less knowledge, experience and refinement he was stomping the absolute shit of her. Even he mentions in the last page of this chapter that it was a good time for a test drive.

He was even using Round Deer healing ability to heal rather than his own.
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Theres nothing that says that Sukuna was somehow holding back, and I doubt that he would play around with someone who he hates. Its like trying to say that he was still holding back even when fightning in Itadori's domain because he thinks that the kid is boring
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Narrative says that. You can see in the whole fight that Sukuna was never impressed at anything. He gets punched around and his face is like “😐” ALL THE TIME.

Every time Sukuna gets impressed or is interested on something Gege makes sure to highlight this: Jogo’s determination, Mahoraga’s adaptability, gazing Gojo until the end, Heavenly Restriction etc.

Yorozu does not have any more 15F Sukuna scaling than Mahoraga or Jogo.
 


This seems like pretty useful ability (resist being pullling down in to shadow) that worth being in profile but I can’t think what ability it’s will be in our wiki.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Yeah and using a technique that he has less knowledge, experience and refinement he was stomping the absolute shit of her. Even he mentions in the last page of this chapter that it was a good time for a test drive.
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Why exactly is this relevant? Sukuna could turn himself into a cursed object and learn how to recover his CT after one glace at Kenjaku and Gojo, he is a fast learner. Not only that, but we have seen Sukuna using Ten Shadows more efficiently than Megumi, even with a Shikigami like Divine Dog which Megumi used in a daily basis.

And why this would affect his durability anyway?
M3X_2.0 said:
He was even using Round Deer healing ability to heal rather than his own.
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He used Round Deer to null Yorozu's CT
And healing with a external source is better than wasting your own Cursed Energy pool
M3X_2.0 said:
He gets punched around and his face is like “😐” ALL THE TIME.
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Yeah, because even being around Yorozu piss him off.
M3X_2.0 said:
Every time Sukuna gets impressed or is interested on something Gege makes sure to highlight this: Jogo’s determination, Mahoraga’s adaptability, gazing Gojo until the end, Heavenly Restriction etc.
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Because these things are new for him. Yorozu is someone who he knows since the Heian era, no reason for him to be surprised or want to play around

Also, Jogo was called pathetic and couldn't hit him once. Can't see why Sukuna couldn't do the same with Yorozu if he was so superior since the begin
 
Giannysmag said:
Fair enough

Gojo was keeping up with him while he was domain amped, then kept up with him again while also fighting Maho and Agito and can further boost his speed with blue to the point he can blitz all three. He is the fastest
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Gojo was keeping up with a not serious sukuna* Just look at chap 227, where gojo also had domain amp and blue

Yet, sukuna was relative and even superior to gojo, and gojo never kept up with sukuna +maho +agito, literally the first sec that sukuna step on the fight, a 2 BF amped gojo couldnt block his kick, and that one kick made a amped gojo bleed and nearly k.oed gojo..

But sukuna was holding back through the fight for the adaptation, thats why gojo seemed superior
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Why exactly is this relevant? Sukuna could turn himself into a cursed object and learn how to recover his CT after one glace at Kenjaku and Gojo, he is a fast learner. Not only that, but we have seen Sukuna using Ten Shadows more efficiently than Megumi, even with a Shikigami like Divine Dog which Megumi used in a daily basis.

And why this would affect his durability anyway?

He used Round Deer to null Yorozu's CT
And healing with a external source is better than wasting your own Cursed Energy pool

Yeah, because even being around Yorozu piss him off.

Because these things are new for him. Yorozu is someone who he knows since the Heian era, no reason for him to be surprised or want to play around

Also, Jogo was called pathetic and couldn't hit him once. Can't see why Sukuna couldn't do the same with Yorozu if he was so superior since the begin
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Wasnt sukuna purposefully taking hits to adapt faster and see how maho adaptation works?
 
Nothing states that
Plus, letting someone hit you doesn't mean your dura will drop massively
Half of the people that cope about Yorozu being in the top 5 make up headcanons to debunk something so simple
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Why exactly is this relevant? Sukuna could turn himself into a cursed object and learn how to recover his RCT after one glace at Kenjaku and Gojo, he is a fast learner. Not only that, but we have seen Sukuna using Ten Shadows more efficiently than Megumi, even with Shikigamis likes Divine Dog which he uses in a daily basis.

And why this would affect his durability anyway?
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You're mistaking Sukuna's efficiency and CE pool with what Megumi could do. And that's not really the point. Shrine is a technique that he used for hundreds of years before he transformed himself into a Cursed Object. The thing is, using Ten Shadows was meant to destroy Megumi's spirit but even then Sukuna still used it as a mere test drive to know what he could do or not.

And it affects his durability because it's his reinforcement? Hello? You're still denying that Sukuna wasn't interested on her?
LIFE_OF_KING said:
He used Round Deer to null Yorozu's CT
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With healing. "I see... that Shikigami heals through reverse cursed technique... so it neutralized the cursed energy flowing through my liquid metal" RCT healing neutralized that. Something that he himself could've done. But opted for Round Deer.
LIFE_OF_KING said:
And healing with a external source is better than wasting your own Cursed Energy pool
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You must've felt so smart writing this that I almost laughed.
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Yeah, because even being around Yorozu piss him off.
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No. It's because he does not care about her at all even while she's attacking and instead of just kicking her around he decided to summon the bull to beat her.
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Because these things are new for him. Yorozu is someone who he knows since the Heian era, no reason for him to be surprised

Also, Jogo who was called pathetic and couldn't hit him once. Can't see why Sukuna couldn't do the same with Yorozu if he was so superior since the begin
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He wasn't surprised by her back then and wasn't now, he does not care about her and thus wasn't even trying. Jogo was still called strong by him given his determination. Because he had to make Mahoraga adapt to her abilities and break the domain. Just like he did with Gojo. And it's not about not getting hit, it's about not caring at all about it to the point you don't mind not dodging.
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Nothing states that
Plus, letting someone hit you doesn't mean your dura will drop massively
Half of the people that cope about Yorozu being in the top 5 make up headcanons to debunk something so simple
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Thats how adaptation works, the more you get hit = the faster you adapt
Sukuna knowing that could just be taking hits to adapt faster to her CT and fully understand maho
 
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Jujutsu Kaisen - Sorcerer Skill Rating

Elite Sorcerers should be more strict on what characters fit that. The advance sorcerers from what I remember would be Yuta, Gojo, Kenjaku, and Sukuna. Stuff I will address so it doesn't have to be argued: Higuruma, the guy considered a genius comparable to Gojo within just 2 months...
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Giannysmag said:
So true, bros only feat is beating up a brain damaged, low output Sukuna that had just been blasted by UHP and then gets no diffed the moment Sukuna goes into his Heian form
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Keep in mind Sukuna's output was still hampered when he transformed, he just healed up his physical condition
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
And healing with a external source is better than wasting your own Cursed Energy pool
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Are you not talking about the dude who used Domain Expansion 3 times in a single fight (something that every other sorcerer, apart from Gojo due to Six Eyes efficiency, can only do once a day due to the massive expenditure of Cursed Energy), spammed RCT numerous times fighting Gojo, was said to have efficiency that would be superior to Gojo if the Six Eyes wasn't a thing, has more than twice the CE pool of Yuta, ran a gauntlet for 40 chapters after fighting Gojo where he used Domain Expansion again and his ultimate technique to firebomb Shinjuku and would've used Domain Expansion several more times if he wasn't stopped by Yuta in Gojo's body or Hana using Jacob's Ladder or Nobara hitting him with Resonance, the same dude who could nonchalantly heal back an entire hand with RCT while having 2 out of 20 fragments of his soul.

Asking Sukuna if he's worried about wasting his Cursed Energy pool is like asking the literal Sun if it's worried about wasting too much hydrogen fuel with its solar flares.
 
I'm not saying that RCT would waste drastically his CE pool

Sukuna used the deer mainly to null Yorozu's CE, not to heal, but since he already pulled it anyway its a better choise to use it instead of his own CE
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
I still wonder how he uses blue to amp speed without anyone noticing. Like, does he create a blue in front of the punch to atract his arm and thus "increasing the speed"? If so, how the heck no one can see that?

Anyway, Gojo is def the fastest when using blue
Extra points in mano a mano category for fightning Gojo with that speed disavantage tho
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Haven't thought about it that much. If I had to guess, given how blue can be used to essentially make black holes and combined w/the six eyes, it's just done by using a smaller version of a standard blue, possibly more than one depending on the distance/path. Thanks to the efficiency of the six eyes and the speed a blue black hole, no one can really detect it since it would operating at relativistic (+) speeds and not leave enough residuals for anyone to track.
 
Giannysmag said:
Since Arkenis mentioned speed I'm curious how you guys would rank the characters in speed. For me it'd be:
  1. Gojo (Fatsest Sorcerer of the modern era. Equal to Sukuna physically and can boost his speed with blue)
  2. Sukun (Blitzed Maki who was untouchable to Curse Naoya. Blitzed piercing blood)
  3. Maki/Toji reaction/perception speed (Couldn't be touched by Curse Naoya)
  4. Curse Naoya (Blitzed Maki before she got her senses)
  5. Yuji (Equal to Maki while fighting Meguna and equal to Yuta while fighting Heiankuna, but likely got faster as the Showdown went on)
  6. Yuta, Maki, Toji in combat and movement speed (Yuta is comparable to Post timeskip Yuji while Maki is comparable to pre TS but Yuta was domain amped so I think it evens out)
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Maybe my list is based on Combat speed

You know 3-5 is just arguable that's all but 1,2,6,7 & 8 well I'm gonna stick with that.
  1. Sukuna and Gojo (Top dogs in the verse has around same speed)
  2. JP Hakari as time goes on [Lighting feat. Haters can cope]
  3. Likely Miguel [well it was from JJK0 Gojo POV Miguel has similar level speed sp whatever]
  4. Likely Kenny and Yuki [Smartest character Todo makes a comment about Yuta failing to kill Weakened Kenny even with sneak attack so it's either they has same speed or Yuta is just slower than Kenny Lmao]
  5. Likely Awakened Yuji (full health) [Even when weakened was able to fight Sukuna who had enough output to scare the shit out of Miguel. Going by Sukuna's speed varies with Output]
  6. Yuta,Todo and Pre awakening Yuji [Well you already pointer out the reasons for this. Also they fought a better version of Sukuna than Maki has fought and getting cooked so I belong they are faster. Todo well keeping up Awakened weakened Yuji. Was confident enough to keep up with Gota]
  7. Uraume [Faster than Maki and Pre time skip Yuji]
  8. Maki [faster than Mach 3]
 
This thread when their favorite characters isn't wanked by someone else
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Also funny how everyone acts like there’s a speed difference between most of these characters and to justify that we try to interpret shit in the most imbecile way like “yeah this character farted a bit faster they definitely deserve a spot above the other”

Like I can force Yuji to be massively faster than Todo because at the point Todo was keeping up with him Yuji was way weaker than when he started fighting Sukuna back in 238. Shit simply does not work with that.

I’d rather say that Gojo is the fastest and Sukuna is right behind, then Kenny/Yuta/Yuji/Todo/Maki because there is simply not a single difference between these characters in speed. At most you can say that Maki is a lil bit faster given how she is portrayed.
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Elde, my brotha, how can you look at Maki and say that she is slowest of the heavy hitters while also saying that Jackpot Hakari tops the entire verse despiste being only equal to Base Kashimo
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Lightning feat > Mach 3 feat simple as that and Base Kashimo and Maki has no scaling chain. Well that's why I said people can cope with the lightning feat.

Also I'm not saying Normally JP Hakari tops the verse. He can he little faster by how narrative shows him being faster than others like he was faster than Base Kashimo as Time goes on when he is in Jackpot.

I was talking about as time goes on he might be faster overall.
 
I invented a lot of stuff.

Kenny surpassing Tengen in barriers but Sukuna could surpass both with practice

Yuta’s CE replenishment via Rika equals to that of Hakari’s Jackpot

MBA Kashimo gets 10x faster and stronger

Confirmed that without Mahoraga Sukuna wouldn’t have defeated Gojo

It was funny as ****. I was about to fake scans as well.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
I invented a lot of stuff.

Kenny surpassing Tengen in barriers but Sukuna could surpass both with practice

Yuta’s CE replenishment via Rika equals to that of Hakari’s Jackpot

MBA Kashimo gets 10x faster and stronger

Confirmed that without Mahoraga Sukuna wouldn’t have defeated Gojo

It was funny as ****. I was about to fake scans as well.
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I bet some Lobotomy kaisen fans would have thought they were real
 
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