Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Confirmed that without Mahoraga Sukuna wouldn’t have defeated Gojo

You crossed the line way too much

 

[M3X_2.0]

You crossed the line way too much

Você é um canalha.

 

[M3X_2.0]

I bet some Lobotomy kaisen fans would have thought they were real

Ngl I tried to keep things consistent while also thinking the same way Gege would.

Kenny > Tengen isn’t that crazy

Neither is the Gojo or the Ryu thing.

 

[Arkenis]

Spoiler

Maybe my list is based on Combat speed

You know 3-5 is just arguable that's all but 1,2,6,7 & 8 well I'm gonna stick with that.

1. Sukuna and Gojo (Top dogs in the verse has around same speed)
2. JP Hakari as time goes on [Lighting feat. Haters can cope]
3. Likely Miguel [well it was from JJK0 Gojo POV Miguel has similar level speed sp whatever]
4. Likely Kenny and Yuki [Smartest character Todo makes a comment about Yuta failing to kill Weakened Kenny even with sneak attack so it's either they has same speed or Yuta is just slower than Kenny Lmao]
5. Likely Awakened Yuji (full health) [Even when weakened was able to fight Sukuna who had enough output to scare the shit out of Miguel. Going by Sukuna's speed varies with Output]
6. Yuta,Todo and Pre awakening Yuji [Well you already pointer out the reasons for this. Also they fought a better version of Sukuna than Maki has fought and getting cooked so I belong they are faster. Todo well keeping up Awakened weakened Yuji. Was confident enough to keep up with Gota]
7. Uraume [Faster than Maki and Pre time skip Yuji]
8. Maki [faster than Mach 3]

And you say I’m biased .

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

And you say I’m biased .

 

[JnSteHar002]

And you say I’m biased .

Deep down, everyone's a little bit biased; I know I am You just gotta keep an I on it so nothing stupid happens

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Você é um canalha.

Admita a superidade de Yorozu

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Deep down, everyone's a little bit biased

Im not. My view and ideias are omnipotent and equal to everyone.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Deep down, everyone's a little bit biased; I know I am You just gotta keep an I on it so nothing stupid happens

There's a difference between normal bias and recurrently making the most extreme interpretations possible

 

[JnSteHar002]

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

What the heck, Miguel downplay is crazy
Bro is Top 3 of the verse

 

[Giannysmag]

What the heck, Miguel downplay is crazy
Bro is Top 3 of the verse

Maki victim

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Maki victim

Maki is Toji level who can't even beat kid Gojo

 

[Giannysmag]

Maki is Toji level who can't even beat kid Gojo

That just upscales Kid Gojo

 

[SunDaGamer]

Ngl I tried to keep things consistent while also thinking the same way Gege would.

Kenny > Tengen isn’t that crazy

Neither is the Gojo or the Ryu thing.

Your multipliers are too high, Gege would've said something like:
"Granite Blast - an immensely powerful surge of Cursed Energy that raises Ryu's output to 120% of the other Culling Game players!!"
"Mythical Beast Amber - Kashimo's technique brings out the peak of human evolution and is further improved by a binding vow of the threat of certain death enforced on the user, once active it brings Kashimo's power to 150%!"

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Maki victim

CHAD Miguel

• Recognised by JJK0 Gojo for his strength as EQ
• Made Sukuna take an interest in him despite being a Sorcerer
• Sustained zero injuries fighting Two Strongest sorcerers

Vs Bum Maki

• Never recognised by Strongest Sorcerers as EQ in Strength
• Got smoked everytime she fought weakened Sukuna head-on

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Miguel, the "My punch cant make Sukuna bleed and I'm only here to ruin the scaling with statements"

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Just seperate JJK0 Gojo and Shinjuku Showdown Gojo sts everything would work out with Statements.

 

[Giannysmag]

CHAD Miguel

• Recognised by JJK0 Gojo for his strength as EQ
• Made Sukuna take an interest in him despite being a Sorcerer
• Sustained zero injuries fighting Two Strongest sorcerers

Vs Bum Maki

• Never recognised by Strongest Sorcerers as EQ in Strength
• Got smoked everytime she fought weakened Sukuna head-on

Let me fix it

CHAD Maki

• Acknowledged as one of the heavy hitters by Kenjaku, who needed to be on guard for her
• Made Sukuna want to prove a point for the first time
• Survived two Black Flashes from the King of Curses

Vs Bum Miguel

• Hits Sukuna like twice then dips
• ***** himself from just the sight of Malevolent Shrine
• "The man that went toe to toe with Satoru Gojo" head ass was a punching bag, it was barely a fight

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Miguel, the "My punch cant make Sukuna bleed and I'm only here to ruin the scaling with statements"

Idk man seems like his punch did some damage though not significant

 

[Giannysmag]

Your multipliers are too high, Gege would've said something like:

It will always be funny to me how Gege is usually super reserved with multipliers, but then he went with an exponential increase for Black Flash just cause it sounded cooler

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Miguel, the "My punch cant make Sukuna bleed and I'm only here to ruin the scaling with statements"

Lol Gojo speedblitz and one shot Uraume and Kenjaku. Miguel without his main weapon speedblitz Sukuna's Slashes from 50m away, was going toe to toe with Gojo for 10 minutes.
But...but he has no feats

 

[Giannysmag]

Idk man seems like his punch did some damage though not significant

Todo level damage

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Lol Gojo speedblitz and one shot Uraume and Kenjaku. Miguel without his main weapon speedblitz Sukuna's Slashes from 50m away, was going toe to toe with Gojo for 10 minutes.
But...but he has no feats

Kusakabe have done better

 

[Giannysmag]

Lol Gojo speedblitz and one shot Uraume and Kenjaku. Miguel without his main weapon speedblitz Sukuna's Slashes from 50m away, was going toe to toe with Gojo for 10 minutes.
But...but he has no feats

 

[Giannysmag]

"He went toe to toe with Gojo"

 

[Shmooply]

Non-canon scene. He sustained no damage for 10 minutes in the mango

 

[Giannysmag]

Non-canon scene. He sustained no damage for 10 minutes in the mango

I know you are saying it as a joke, but Elde liked it so I will mention we consider the 0 movie canon

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Let me fix it

CHAD Maki

• Acknowledged as one of the heavy hitters by Kenjaku, who needed to be on guard for her

It meant nothing when neither Sukuna nor Gojo acknowledged her strength. Kenny was more concerned about a sneak attack. Besides, even if you say she was recognized by Kenny, how would that put her on the same level as being recognized by Gojo?

Gojo (who is self centred) recognised Miguel case closed brother.

• Made Sukuna want to prove a point for the first time

and got cooked She didn't prove anything back

• Survived two Black Flashes from the King of Curses

Miguel survived blue-amped punches from JJK0 Gojo when he was at full power, so tanking the BF from a weakened Sukuna and surviving shouldn't be a big deal here.

Vs Bum Miguel

• Hits Sukuna like twice then dips

Maki couldn't do it without a sneak attack. Miguel fought him head-on. Maki even got outmatched by pre-BF Sukuna, while Miguel was keeping up with BF-zone Sukuna, outskilled him in H2H, and landed hits.

• ***** himself from just the sight of Malevolent Shrine

Miwa saved Maki so this argument shouldn't even be here . It's not like Maki survived MS on her own.

• "The man that went toe to toe with Satoru Gojo" head ass was a punching bag, it was barely a fight

He made JJK0 Gojo bleed, while Toji got overwhelmed by Awakened Teen Gojo without even being able to keep up with his speed. Toji ~ Maki.

So, it doesn't have to be a fight. Surviving 12 minutes against JJK0 Gojo should be considered a big deal in the verse.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I know you are saying it as a joke, but Elde liked it so I will mention we consider the 0 movie canon

Well I didn't even say anything about Movie being non canon. Neither Miguel and Gojo fighting on EQ grounds. I said Gojo acknowledged Miguel Strength as EQ.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Non-canon scene. He sustained no damage for 10 minutes in the mango

We accept the movie as canon tho

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

All I see is a good durability feats, Sukuna who is a RCT user was dying to Gojo after 3 minutes.(It's also a non-canon fighting scene anyway )

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Todo level damage

Spoiler

You ain't ready for my Todo ~ Miguel arguments. But let's hold it off for now. I don't have much free time to participate in Content revison threads.
I had plans for Yuji abilities upgrade but it's halfway done and put it on hold for now. Idk when I'll complete that also.

 

[Giannysmag]

It meant nothing when neither Sukuna nor Gojo acknowledged her strength. Kenny was more concerned about a sneak attack. Besides, even if you say she was recognized by Kenny, how would that put her on the same level as being recognized by Gojo?

She was acknowledged by Sukuna too

Gojo (who is self centred) recognised Miguel case closed brother.

Gojo said that Todo would one day surpass special grade, being complemented by him isn't the end all be all

and got cooked She didn't prove anything back

Miguel was also getting cooked by Gojo yet you use that statement as evidence

Miguel survived blue-amped punches from JJK0 Gojo when he was at full power, so tanking the BF from a weakened Sukuna and surviving shouldn't be a big deal here.

Aight then, prove why Vol 0 Gojo punches are stronger than weakened Sukuna's black flahses

Maki couldn't do it without a sneak attack. Miguel fought him head-on. Maki even got outmatched by pre-BF Sukuna, while Miguel was keeping up with BF-zone Sukuna, outskilled him in H2H, and landed hits.

Maki was fighting Sukuna head on for an entire chapter and did it again after he hit 2 black flashes

He made JJK0 Gojo bleed, while Toji got overwhelmed by Awakened Teen Gojo without even being able to keep up with his speed. Toji ~ Maki.

Toji was overwhelmed by Gojo using Red and Purple and got blitzed by his blue amped speed, while Migeul was getting the shit beat out of him by Gojo only using physical attacks. Those aren't comparable

So, it doesn't have to be a fight. Surviving 12 minutes against JJK0 Gojo should be considered a big deal in the verse.

All I see is a good durability feats, Sukuna who is a RCT user was dying to Gojo after 3 minutes.(It's also a non-canon fighting scene anyway )

I agree Miguel's durability is really good. But here's the funny part about that, Maki's main weapon negates durability so his best stat doesn't matter here

 

[Shmooply]

We accept the movie as canon tho

This MIGHT be abysmal dogshit.

 

[Giannysmag]

This MIGHT be abysmal dogshit.

Vol 0 movie is GOATed tho

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

This MIGHT be abysmal dogshit.

Meh, they barely added something relevant other than Yuta's black flash

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

But here's the funny part about that, Maki's main weapon negates durability so his best stat doesn't matter here

But here is the funny part, Miguel CT is the perfectly counter that, on top of amping himself and weakening his opponent. I can even say Miguel is faster than Maki thank to his feats.

 

[Giannysmag]

But here is the funny part, Miguel CT is the perfectly counter that, on top of amping himself and weakening his opponent.

Doesn't matter how much he amps his durability, SSK negates it no matter what

I can even say Miguel is faster than Maki thank to his feats.

Such as?

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Doesn't matter how much he amps his durability, SSK negates it no matter what

Such as?

Miguel CT negate SSK (and maybe black rope), it also weaken Maki.
Speedblitzing Sukuna's Slashes from 50m away is better than anything Maki did in JJK lol