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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Thats bullshit methinks. Thats not something that Sukuna doesn't have control. Just like against Ryu, he started playing around but when he got serious he completly destroyed the guy.

If he hates someone he will kill that person, like with Geto's daughters, and not just hold back, like against Higuruma

Against Yorozu he wanted to kill her no matter what to take Megumi's body for good, and despiste the fact that Sukuna dislike Yorozu's mindset, he shows respect to her powers as seen in the end of the fight where he basically made a entire study about her cursed technique

He didn't wanted to play around at all with Yorozu since he wanted to leave as soon as possible. Theres no reason to say that Sukuna was holding back hundred of times.
Fair enough
Sukuna is the fastest..
Gojo was keeping up with him while he was domain amped, then kept up with him again while also fighting Maho and Agito and can further boost his speed with blue to the point he can blitz all three. He is the fastest
 
Thats bullshit methinks. Thats not something that Sukuna doesn't have control. Just like against Ryu, he started playing around but when he got serious he completly destroyed the guy.

If he hates someone he will kill that person, like with Geto's daughters, and not just hold back, like against Higuruma

Against Yorozu he wanted to kill her no matter what to take Megumi's body for good, and despiste the fact that Sukuna dislike Yorozu's mindset, he shows respect to her powers as seen in the end of the fight where he basically made a entire study about her cursed technique

He didn't wanted to play around at all with Yorozu since he wanted to leave as soon as possible. Theres no reason to say that Sukuna was holding back hundred of times.
What

Sukuna would’ve killed her no matter what. Him wanting to kill her has nothing to do with going all out or not.

He was playing the whole fight testing Ten Shadows and not even using Shrine.

I’m sorry but what’s bullshit is this argument of yours.
 
He was playing the whole fight testing Ten Shadows and not even using Shrine.
He didn't wanted to use Shrine because by using Ten Shadows the sin of killing Tsumiki would be in Megumi's hands, sealing his soul even more, not because he thought that Yorozu wasn't worth of the Shrine
Sukuna would’ve killed her no matter what. Him wanting to kill her has nothing to do with going all out or not.
Theres nothing saying that Sukuna was somehow holding back, and I doubt that he would play around with someone who he hates. Its like trying to say that he was still holding back even when fightning in Itadori's domain because he thinks that the kid is boring
 
He didn't wanted to use Shrine because by using Ten Shadows the sin of killing Tsumiki would be in Megumi's hand, sealing his soul even more, not because he thought that Yorozu wasn't worth of the Shrine
Yeah and using a technique that he has less knowledge, experience and refinement he was stomping the absolute shit of her. Even he mentions in the last page of this chapter that it was a good time for a test drive.

He was even using Round Deer healing ability to heal rather than his own.
Theres nothing that says that Sukuna was somehow holding back, and I doubt that he would play around with someone who he hates. Its like trying to say that he was still holding back even when fightning in Itadori's domain because he thinks that the kid is boring
Narrative says that. You can see in the whole fight that Sukuna was never impressed at anything. He gets punched around and his face is like “😐” ALL THE TIME.

Every time Sukuna gets impressed or is interested on something Gege makes sure to highlight this: Jogo’s determination, Mahoraga’s adaptability, gazing Gojo until the end, Heavenly Restriction etc.

Yorozu does not have any more 15F Sukuna scaling than Mahoraga or Jogo.
 


This seems like pretty useful ability (resist being pullling down in to shadow) that worth being in profile but I can’t think what ability it’s will be in our wiki.
 
Yeah and using a technique that he has less knowledge, experience and refinement he was stomping the absolute shit of her. Even he mentions in the last page of this chapter that it was a good time for a test drive.
Why exactly is this relevant? Sukuna could turn himself into a cursed object and learn how to recover his CT after one glace at Kenjaku and Gojo, he is a fast learner. Not only that, but we have seen Sukuna using Ten Shadows more efficiently than Megumi, even with a Shikigami like Divine Dog which Megumi used in a daily basis.

And why this would affect his durability anyway?
He was even using Round Deer healing ability to heal rather than his own.
He used Round Deer to null Yorozu's CT
And healing with a external source is better than wasting your own Cursed Energy pool
He gets punched around and his face is like “😐” ALL THE TIME.
Yeah, because even being around Yorozu piss him off.
Every time Sukuna gets impressed or is interested on something Gege makes sure to highlight this: Jogo’s determination, Mahoraga’s adaptability, gazing Gojo until the end, Heavenly Restriction etc.
Because these things are new for him. Yorozu is someone who he knows since the Heian era, no reason for him to be surprised or want to play around

Also, Jogo was called pathetic and couldn't hit him once. Can't see why Sukuna couldn't do the same with Yorozu if he was so superior since the begin
 
Fair enough

Gojo was keeping up with him while he was domain amped, then kept up with him again while also fighting Maho and Agito and can further boost his speed with blue to the point he can blitz all three. He is the fastest
Gojo was keeping up with a not serious sukuna* Just look at chap 227, where gojo also had domain amp and blue

Yet, sukuna was relative and even superior to gojo, and gojo never kept up with sukuna +maho +agito, literally the first sec that sukuna step on the fight, a 2 BF amped gojo couldnt block his kick, and that one kick made a amped gojo bleed and nearly k.oed gojo..

But sukuna was holding back through the fight for the adaptation, thats why gojo seemed superior
 
Why exactly is this relevant? Sukuna could turn himself into a cursed object and learn how to recover his CT after one glace at Kenjaku and Gojo, he is a fast learner. Not only that, but we have seen Sukuna using Ten Shadows more efficiently than Megumi, even with a Shikigami like Divine Dog which Megumi used in a daily basis.

And why this would affect his durability anyway?

He used Round Deer to null Yorozu's CT
And healing with a external source is better than wasting your own Cursed Energy pool

Yeah, because even being around Yorozu piss him off.

Because these things are new for him. Yorozu is someone who he knows since the Heian era, no reason for him to be surprised or want to play around

Also, Jogo was called pathetic and couldn't hit him once. Can't see why Sukuna couldn't do the same with Yorozu if he was so superior since the begin
Wasnt sukuna purposefully taking hits to adapt faster and see how maho adaptation works?
 
Nothing states that
Plus, letting someone hit you doesn't mean your dura will drop massively
Half of the people that cope about Yorozu being in the top 5 make up headcanons to debunk something so simple
 
You're mistaking Sukuna's efficiency and CE pool with what Megumi could do. And that's not really the point. Shrine is a technique that he used for hundreds of years before he transformed himself into a Cursed Object. The thing is, using Ten Shadows was meant to destroy Megumi's spirit but even then Sukuna still used it as a mere test drive to know what he could do or not.

And it affects his durability because it's his reinforcement? Hello? You're still denying that Sukuna wasn't interested on her?
He used Round Deer to null Yorozu's CT
With healing. "I see... that Shikigami heals through reverse cursed technique... so it neutralized the cursed energy flowing through my liquid metal" RCT healing neutralized that. Something that he himself could've done. But opted for Round Deer.
And healing with a external source is better than wasting your own Cursed Energy pool
You must've felt so smart writing this that I almost laughed.
Yeah, because even being around Yorozu piss him off.
No. It's because he does not care about her at all even while she's attacking and instead of just kicking her around he decided to summon the bull to beat her.
Because these things are new for him. Yorozu is someone who he knows since the Heian era, no reason for him to be surprised

Also, Jogo who was called pathetic and couldn't hit him once. Can't see why Sukuna couldn't do the same with Yorozu if he was so superior since the begin
He wasn't surprised by her back then and wasn't now, he does not care about her and thus wasn't even trying. Jogo was still called strong by him given his determination. Because he had to make Mahoraga adapt to her abilities and break the domain. Just like he did with Gojo. And it's not about not getting hit, it's about not caring at all about it to the point you don't mind not dodging.
 
Nothing states that
Plus, letting someone hit you doesn't mean your dura will drop massively
Half of the people that cope about Yorozu being in the top 5 make up headcanons to debunk something so simple
Thats how adaptation works, the more you get hit = the faster you adapt
Sukuna knowing that could just be taking hits to adapt faster to her CT and fully understand maho
 
So true, bros only feat is beating up a brain damaged, low output Sukuna that had just been blasted by UHP and then gets no diffed the moment Sukuna goes into his Heian form
Keep in mind Sukuna's output was still hampered when he transformed, he just healed up his physical condition
 
And healing with a external source is better than wasting your own Cursed Energy pool
Are you not talking about the dude who used Domain Expansion 3 times in a single fight (something that every other sorcerer, apart from Gojo due to Six Eyes efficiency, can only do once a day due to the massive expenditure of Cursed Energy), spammed RCT numerous times fighting Gojo, was said to have efficiency that would be superior to Gojo if the Six Eyes wasn't a thing, has more than twice the CE pool of Yuta, ran a gauntlet for 40 chapters after fighting Gojo where he used Domain Expansion again and his ultimate technique to firebomb Shinjuku and would've used Domain Expansion several more times if he wasn't stopped by Yuta in Gojo's body or Hana using Jacob's Ladder or Nobara hitting him with Resonance, the same dude who could nonchalantly heal back an entire hand with RCT while having 2 out of 20 fragments of his soul.

Asking Sukuna if he's worried about wasting his Cursed Energy pool is like asking the literal Sun if it's worried about wasting too much hydrogen fuel with its solar flares.
 
I'm not saying that RCT would waste drastically his CE pool

Sukuna used the deer mainly to null Yorozu's CE, not to heal, but since he already pulled it anyway its a better choise to use it instead of his own CE
 
I still wonder how he uses blue to amp speed without anyone noticing. Like, does he create a blue in front of the punch to atract his arm and thus "increasing the speed"? If so, how the heck no one can see that?

Anyway, Gojo is def the fastest when using blue
Extra points in mano a mano category for fightning Gojo with that speed disavantage tho
Haven't thought about it that much. If I had to guess, given how blue can be used to essentially make black holes and combined w/the six eyes, it's just done by using a smaller version of a standard blue, possibly more than one depending on the distance/path. Thanks to the efficiency of the six eyes and the speed a blue black hole, no one can really detect it since it would operating at relativistic (+) speeds and not leave enough residuals for anyone to track.
 
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