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120%+ output Hollow Purple doing more damage to Sukuna and Mahoraga than Gojo's Black Flashes is funny
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Cursed tools are tool with a CT, Miguel CT will neg it.
Limits you say, who will push him that far?
SSK isn't touching an hair of Miguel in a million years lol.
Maki doesn't have any good speed feats lol, just like her uncle she is only good when it comes to sneak attacks
Giannysmag
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SSK isn't touching an hair of Miguel in a million years lol.
Maki doesn't have any good speed feats lol, just like her uncle she is only good when it comes to sneak attacks
Giannysmag
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One must imagine Sisyphus happy
EldemadeDityjon
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He just wanted to prove that sorcery is greater than HR; it was never about acknowledging strength. If you're referring to the pre-time skip Yuji and Maki team-up statements, it's obvious that he's just gaslighting himself.
You didn't understand what I was saying
Gojo never admitted that someone is stronger than or equal to him, until Sukuna cooked him and turned him into pieces like a KitKat.
Also, bad analogy Gojo never stated that Todo surpasses him. Gojo sees Yuta and Hakari as being above Todo, despite them only having the potential to reach his level.
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Healthy weakened Sukuna >~ Yuta ~ small amount of Rika's soul fragments current Yuta has ~ < Real Rika ~ Vol 0 Gojo.
Healthy weakened Sukuna's casual punches > Choso's durability ~ Maki
She was getting thrown around and failed to land a single hit without others assisting her, while Miguel outskilled Sukuna. Also, please don’t say he was serious at that time. He only got serious when he blitzed her and cooked her with BF.
Even before he got serious he was able to send her flying with dismantle and was easily able to touch her. While Miguel was able to brush off Sukuna's hands with his skills and land clean hits and dodge multiple dismantle at same time.
Both fighting Sukuna has significant differences in feats.
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Miguel was able to damage Gojo and keep up with him, even if you consider the movie. Miguel dodged some attacks.
Also, Purple takes a small amount of activation time. Toji couldn’t even keep up with that version of Gojo or react to him beforehand. This just upscales Miguel for not getting hit by Red and Purple. Gojo most likely didn’t have time to fire them while Miguel was in close quarters, using the rope to disrupt his cursed technique. Toji could also do this with the Inverted Spear of Heaven, but you get what I mean here. Toji’s speed wasn’t enough to disrupt Awakened Gojo’s cursed technique with his speed alone.
SSK is a cursed tool it's not hard to dodge weapons when Miguel can just sense the angel it would come striking him.
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Miguel maybe stronger in physical stat but he still fighting person that have regeneration and can one shot him he have no way to kill maki before get cut in to pieces.
EldemadeDityjon
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Regeneration which is technically not normally combat usable unless there is someone backs her up and buys her time to heal.
SSK can be dodged. Beside CQC Miguel should be more skilled looking at how he casually brushes Sukuna's hands and punches him while Sukuna couldn't even able to react. Was surprised too.
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Can be dodgers yes but for how long? Miguel not gonna win this fight without getting hits.
Imagine like this they traded ten blows Maki couldn't dodge at all and was attacked all ten times, she was now internally injured and slowed down (heals in three minutes). Miguel dodges 9 out of 10 times, gets hit once, he now has lost an arm or leg and is in no condition to fight Maki anymore.
EldemadeDityjon
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He was able to survive 12 minutes against Gojo.
Also, his skills were acknowledged by Gojo to the point where he sent Yuta to him and trained him.
Yuta also thinks they can win with his help against Sukuna.
At the end of the series, Maki admits that if Miguel and Laure had arrived earlier, they could have had a better chance of beating Sukuna.
So, I'm definitely not going to agree with the argument that Maki lands a hit on Miguel when Sukuna was handling Maki and Yuji—two of the best CQC fighters—with one arm, while Miguel handled true-form Sukuna with two hands without getting hit.
I don't see how Maki miraculously gets 3 minutes of free time to heal while getting punched by Miguel. Besides, Miguel could possibly just punch Maki's hands weak points, grab the SSK, and stab her because of his skills.
Or he could just nullify the SSK with Black Rope, and he had enough AP to damage JJK0 Gojo. So he should be able to damage her too. She has no significant feats that put her durability above Yuta and Rika.
Also, his skills were acknowledged by Gojo to the point where he sent Yuta to him and trained him.
Yuta also thinks they can win with his help against Sukuna.
At the end of the series, Maki admits that if Miguel and Laure had arrived earlier, they could have had a better chance of beating Sukuna.
So, I'm definitely not going to agree with the argument that Maki lands a hit on Miguel when Sukuna was handling Maki and Yuji—two of the best CQC fighters—with one arm, while Miguel handled true-form Sukuna with two hands without getting hit.
I don't see how Maki miraculously gets 3 minutes of free time to heal while getting punched by Miguel. Besides, Miguel could possibly just punch Maki's hands weak points, grab the SSK, and stab her because of his skills.
Or he could just nullify the SSK with Black Rope, and he had enough AP to damage JJK0 Gojo. So he should be able to damage her too. She has no significant feats that put her durability above Yuta and Rika.
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It's crazy how outside of black flash, the peak of multipliers is like 2x iirc and that was with a ton of setup (200% Purple). I can't take Gregory seriously, always hyping up a 20% increase as a big deal, yet makes black flash an exponential attack (and one that doesn't even feel nowhere near as strong as it's stated to be, honestly feels more like 5x amp at best).
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To be fair to Gege, I think he walked back Black Flash being a ^2 multiplier because he realized that that is a way bigger of a jump in power than he thought at first.
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Why do people attribute a father and son relationship to Sukuna and Uraume? It feels more like Sukuna just related to Uraume, likely due to Uraume being trans or looking more feminine in their first life their family and others didn’t want anything to do with them. Sukuna was disfigured and Uraume wasn’t your typical son.
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is that scene of gojo punching miguel actually cannon or is just a anime thing? I always tried to find it on manga
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because Sukuna actually cares for uraume (or seems to), he even saves her at chap 223, when all he had to do was just hide in shadows, if uraume was just another person
and for example, sukuna also related to gojo, but he killed him withouth thinking twice, while for uraume he even saved her
EldemadeDityjon
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Bruh
Arkenis
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He didn't relate to Gojo.
Giannysmag
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That singular shot of Sukuna comforting Uraume in the afterlife did wonders for his PR
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Maybe I missed/forgot the discussions, just wanna be clear; the JJK0 movie is considered 100% canon while the anime is secondary status? And that's b/c?
Also, and this might be a regretful comment, it would be safe to say everyone that participated in the Shinjuku showdown is roughly Grade 1 or higher, right?
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Something something agenda
Also pretty much. I mean everyone there was already at least Grade 1 before essentially except maybe like Larue.
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they did, otherwise sukuna wouldnt get blushed after gojo hugged him..
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I don't know the actual reason, but I reckon it's because the JJK 0 movie is an updated version of a very outdated story and has its own novelization, with JJK's novels being accepted as valid sources
Arkenis
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.... discourse of jjk
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Giannysmag
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Yea, Ino is probably the weakest person to fight in the Showdown and he was already near Grade 1 before the timeskip training
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Ngl I did actually suspect its legitimacy myself, but I didn't wanna throw around any accusations so I was just like "okay, assume it's there in the databook and it's legit, how do we mesh that with the manga?"
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Am I really the only one who didn't know about this fake databook?
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Not just you
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Actual dogshit
1 - Assuming you're referring to ch238, wherein that Sukuna's stats are drastically reduced, has ass RCT, has no DE, and has reduced output for anti-domain tech. Idk how he fights against Gojo.
2. Again with the same weaknesses. Sukuna has WCS now but accounting for the fatigue carried on over from the Gojo fight and he'd lose if he had to restart against Gojo from scratch.
3. I won't get into prime Sukuna vs Gojo, I'm fine if you think Sukuna wins
4. 15F Sukuna? 20F Sukuna was already losing within the basket ball domain, so a slower and weaker Sukuna that doesn't have Mahoraga would lose far quicker.
5. TRUEEE
6. There's some I'd rank above awakened Gojo, such as 6E Yuta or WCS Mahoraga
7. Miguel lowkey has better statements than Kashimo for stats (and stats is all Kashimo fans have)
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9 & 10. I think there's a few characters who beat Yuta, and I don't think Yuji beats any of the Heavy Hitters since his DE is shit
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Arkenis
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Floor Master Challenge
SBA Location is same arena Hisoka and Chrollo fought Chrollo has prior knowledge on Rika
EldemadeDityjon
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