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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

-Both are perfect jumping partners
-Both have some form of RCT output, though Rika is better in this regard if this is mostly how she cleared out the Cursed Spirit onslaught, and she can use it to heal the user

Mahoraga can potentially be a complete tank with adaptation. He can even learn and create new techniques by adapting

Rika acts as a storage for Cursed Tools and contains an entire room, meaning you can pull on on the opps with a clown car. And ofc the copied techniques
 
In terms of strength, Rika is physically superior to the user, while we've only seen tamed Maho be relative to his user

All things considered, Rika is a more useful Shikigami
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
They were punching the same weakened Sukuna lmao
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No? Sukuna shoulder tackles Rika without a care but feels pain from Yuta.
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M3X_2.0 said:
Elde why do always create a debate on useless thing like just read the next chapter where Rika punched Sukuna and sent him flying.
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That Sukuna was getting nerfed by Yuji's punches bro.
I'm just saying there is no statement or feats for Partial manifested Rika > Yuta.

We got statement for Fully Manifested Rika > Yuta. I do agree but partial manifested Rika is nowhere stated or shown any feats surpassing Yuta. That's my point.
M3X_2.0 said:
Like not everything need an argument it’s just obvious. In the page you posted Sukuna is just parrying Rika.
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He said there was no difference I was just showing the panel for Yuta doing better.
 
And still Rika's punches were knocking around Sukuna, as opposed to Yuta's punches not doing that (duh)

This doesn't even have to be debated
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
That Sukuna was getting nerfed by Yuji's punches bro
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I posted a compiled of feats and statements on how Yuji punches affects Sukuna and at that point Sukuna was attacked like 3 times which isn’t enough to lower his output by a relevant level.

And one of the punched happened way earlier and Sukuna was already near at recovering his RCT as stated by Yuta.

Regardless, Rika and Yuta punched the same Sukuna inside the domain, her punches had more strength.
 
They adapt to each other nonstop until they lose their physical form and transcend the very level of existence that they once inhabited, and thus, finally breaking the sound barrier
 
M3X_2.0 said:
I posted a compiled of feats and statements on how Yuji punches affects Sukuna and at that point Sukuna was attacked like 3 times which isn’t enough to lower his output by a relevant level.

And one of the punched happened way earlier and Sukuna was already near at recovering his RCT as stated by Yuta.

Regardless, Rika and Yuta punched the same Sukuna inside the domain, her punches had more strength.
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Even a few punches of yuji makes sukuna significantly weaker, look at chap 254, where sukuna was fighting with no yuji weakening him every sec
He could literally one shot maki with BF, but on chapter 255, yuji hits the soul and sukunas output get so low that he could barely ko Larue, larue was up after a few sec and even using his CT
Even in chap 256, sukuna hits maki with another Bf but basically nothings happens, which proves that even with a few punches, yuji can significantly weaken sukuna
 
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Who cooked Kenjaku profile?
His tier is lacking compared to his AP justification.
 
LIGHTYW said:
Even a few punches of yuji makes sukuna significantly weaker, look at chap 254, where sukuna was fighting with no yuji weakening him every sec
He could literally one shot maki with BF, but on chapter 255, yuji hits the soul and sukunas output get so low that he could barely ko Larue, larue was up after a few sec and even using his CT
Even in chap 256, sukuna hits maki with another Bf but basically nothings happens, which proves that even with a few punches, yuji can significantly weaken sukuna
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No, it took Yuji ~9 punches to decrease Sukuna's output.
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
JJK fans taking their time to not read the manga is astounding.
He literally says he is and so is the spectators themselves LMAO.

You think Sukuna can touch gojo if he didn't have DA on? 😂 He doesn't. So how does he attack gojo or even block his attacks. How does he interact with him?



Sukuna affirm that he sometimes does not use DA. We can infer that this refers to moments where they're not throwing hands, or engaging in a fight. Otherwise he's using it everytime gojo goes for a close quarter combat or himself. Arguing otherwise is going against these statements. And it's not just that, Gojo would literally notice and suspect Sukuna far more early if he for some reason at some moments decided not to use DA when engaging in a fight. Your argument is quite literally nonsense. Take it somewhere else.

Sukuna literally held onto gojo with DA dude.


Also what. We literally still see him having DA on chapter 229? Why are you yapping nonsense?
It's only in chapter 230 that he uses the wheel far more. But when it comes to interacting with gojo he literally has to use DA. Especially when blocking attacks like red. Why would you lie and say he isn't using it at all? "How is that not holding back lmao?" Are you being purposefully stupid or do you not understand what his purpose is? Unless you want him to get smoked? 😂 Because that's what he's trying to avoid.


Ye and he says he can switch between it which is what he did. What part of this is holding back when he can't even do a single slick of damage on Gojo, whereas gojo can do?

"Headcanon" As if we weren't told by gojo that he intends to simply just bring Sukuna closet to death to incapacitate him. Indeed bro. Now tell me why he said he'd do that with his hands when more effective moves like quick maximum blue output or red fired from afar wouldn't smoke this Sukuna caught up in UV or even a quick purple which when fired would **** over Maho anyways?
You're literally arguing Sukuna holding back under actually more headcanon conditions. Stop the yap.
Literally give me one reason as to why gojo doesn't spam quick normal blue orbs or red when HI arc gojo says he can do multiple simultaneous blue and red? You have none for the first round. Literally none to explain why he doesn't spam his CT when he very well can do so. Dude does it without raising his arms against Juzo guy. (Blues) said in HI arc which is far weaker than his adult self that he could do the same for blue and red.

In the second round we literally see blud manifest multiple blue orbs whilst suffering under a brain damage directly centered on his CT. So that's him under way worse control.
Like man we're even told by Sukuna that this is his first time taking a red with DA in the second round 😭

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Straight up admitting gojo never used a red ever again against him in the following domain battles 🤦 blud saw mahoraga and thought he should use red on him instead of Sukuna. But you wanna say he wasn't holding back his CT despite numerous statements and feats literally implying otherwise...



Also yeah he questions why he isn't using it. That doesn't mean he still isn't cautious of the 10S? Dude has been withholding spamming his blue and red quite clearly and evidently. Ponder about this deeply dude.
Also no Gojo isn't trying to kill Sukuna. Dude literally thought of bringing him closer to death, contradicting his own statement. If you think that's weird then maybe you should ask yourself if external statements count as internal statements? We literally have actual moments where gojo says something else on the outside but thinks differently/the opposite on the inside.
And we literally have the gang aka Hana and Yuji not reacting to gojo saying he'll kill Sukuna in chapter 224 after talking about Megumi. They literally did not comment. Or react whatsoever about this. But in chapter 231? They literally react and go "uhh he didn't forget about megumi did he?" when he said again, he'll kill Sukuna.


Says this


Then says something contradictory


All which supports the narrative that he lied on spot Towards Sukuna. But it's only in chapter ch231 - where gojo is more... emotional/feral (idk how to word it) that they start to have some doubts.

This isn't the first time gojo does this btw. He acts differently externally and internally respectively.

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Says something like this. But thinks otherwise on the inside.
Chapter 52
"We all good!" ("As if...")
Actually why would gojo need a special mental training to convince himself to "kill". I wonder if that's because he cares about Megumi like the others and wants to save him which is also the others plan??

Also what. Wtf are you even talking about. He uses DA which is a stat boost like how a domain expansion gives you one. DA > SD in stats boost
Mf using DA and DE buff to even remain somewhat relative to gojo.... Despite gojo putting holes in him with one punch twice. And tearing a part of his face with his punch 😭 W relativity dude.
Literally what part of this makes him overall stronger when gojo was taking nonstop barrages of cleave and dismantle from his full output domain with one cut struggling to anything more than a deep paper cut? 🗿 (That doesn't make it any less impressive given that they're spawning by hundreds if not thousands nonstop.)
What part of this is tieing if Gojo is the one actually doing damage in hand to hand whilst withholding his CT from spamming? Sukuna can't even do a single damage towards gojo with his reg dismantle and cleave even if he dropped his infinity.

? Gojo literally had to focus a little more deeper to see what Sukuna was doing in a moment bro 😂 now imagine if Sukuna raised his suspicions to a higher level early.
Also nobody knows that he could use it to summon the wheel on another dude's soul in a vessel. That doesn't mean gojo couldn't see it when he does when he focuses.
Also what. He literally doesn't say that? Are you aware that Sukuna is like, saying he's only suspending the wheel?

He doesn't say he can't spam DA whatsoever or that he can't maintain it for long.
Also why lie. He literally uses DA. Stated that's what he has to do to fight gojo or interact with him. Same thing.


Exactly man. You got it. It's obvious that Sukuna is using DA when he's not engaged in combat.


OK so you want to ignore the statement that says he couldn't use it

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Man do I have to go over all the statements of Sukuna saying he wants to kill gojo... This shit is so ass 💔

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Mf keeps saying Sukuna was holding back to not kill as if Gege hasn't been telling you multiple times that he needed mahoraga. Couldn't defeat gojo until Mahoraga. Etc

Then you have Sukuna aiming for the neck.


"Nah Gojo who is in a ct burnout phase. I can't let you escape from my domain that is relentlessly attacking you fr! Gotta have to hold back by keeping you in this domain from escaping!"


"gojo bro why are you so persistent with using SD to resist my domain Bro? It won't kill you fr trust"


Ig Kashimo can't see Sukuna stopping himself from killing gojo chat...


"yeah I'll aim for the neck to kill you cuz u got rct"
Sukuna when he aims for gojo's neck be like

Yeah bro he's holding himself from killing gojo. bro holding himself back to lower his Dura to where he can have gojo put holes on him with his punches. He also held back in his healing speed in chapter 229 where he on purpose got caught up in getting hit by the UV sure hit. he also definitely let his domain collapse in 2m 40 seconds later so he could get hit by UV nonstop

OK bro stop this nonsense fanfiction writing. Go do this on a fanfiction site instead of here.

"He would only kill gojo after adapting"???? Greatest troll in history. How would he adapt to gojo's infinity when it is getting bypassed by the sure hit effect of his domain? 😂 Pretty sure gojo was also in a CT burnout phase so what would he even do 😭 stand there and wait for gojo to get his ct back? Bro stop yapping.


Infact why lie. He is saying doing both. The former won't even happen anyways. Gojo's output is already declining. His Ct in a burnout phase. His RCT also declining too greatly.
How can you yap this much is beyond me.





Reading with your head in your ass ain't gonna help you out in comprehending basic media literacy.
Also what? He says he needed the model in order to breach through infinity and kill gojo?
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He hoped for this shit bro lmao.

You know what's even more funny with all this Sukuna holding back yap because he wanted this technique? Sukuna used a one time binding vow that nerfed his technique in exchange for being able to hit gojo without him being able to
1. Detect it.
2. Skipped handsign
And more
For the first part. I don't think I need to explain that not only has gojo seen Sukuna use 10S techniques for his own like elephant. But also the wheel on himself.
Not just that but gojo straight up has the best senses in verse when it comes to anything CE related. Can see Ce far more clear than anybody else. Can also sense CE spark. Something which world slash also has. And he also witnessed Mahoraga use it. That being said, we can confirm he's extremely familiar. He's also wary for Sukuna's "holding back trump card".
So how did it hit gojo without him moving a single inch?
Well the binding vow not only allowed Sukuna to bypass the hand sign requirement, but it was most definitely also further strengthened by the BV to either
1. Remain completely undetectable to gojo's senses. Ce spark. Ce build up for a move etc. All skipped
2. It was also invisible to his senses in seeing it move. Possibly instantaneous like some sort of sure hit effect. Otherwise it is impossible for gojo to not detect it. Let alone fail to move a single inch from his spot, especially when Sukuna is far weaker compared to gojo at his current state, which would reflect on his CT's speed itself.
So go ahead and explain to me why Sukuna used a BV to make his world slash ass? U got many people being able to either intercept it to stop Sukuna from using it, or dodge it afterwards, despite those people that being far inferior to gojo

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Oh true form? Fire arrow? Where? What would that do when gojo could pack that Sukuna up again? What would that do against a gojo in a zone + 5 BF? Sukuna has not only a declining output but also a garbage rct from the brain damage unlike gojo who got that fixed. He can't use DE either.
Not to mention the fact that we see gojo visibly surpass Sukuna pre hollow purple nuke in stats. True form ain't doing shit when gojo could just pull off quick red and blue 😭 even in stats Sukuna is getting completely packed. Despite y'know, having the ability to use his true form quickly and go for a quick World slash which only requires a hand sign?? All of this tells us that his holding back trump cards are useless. Fire arrow can't work either in that scenario because... Infinity. And it is weak when not used in conjunction with his domain. His true form while it could heal his wounds bar brain damage, can't help him out much. If at all. Unless you think Sukuna transforming and using world slash would work. Which it wouldn't given how slower Sukuna is and gojo's own senses. All of this tells us that Sukuna had no other choice but to go for a world slash amped by world slash so that he can successfully take gojo down.


Also chapter 234 doesn't prove anything. Gojo was constantly on the move. Maho slashed and could only hit gojo's arm. Besides that Sukuna was continuously urging Mahoraga to do something and the wheel spinned to send out a world slash. Why can't Maho use world slash continuously to cut off his arms or prevent gojo from using hollow purple? You're ignoring this glaring flaw in your argument. Why would he just allow Mahoraga to die... Well we can make deductive reasoning that Mahoraga simply can't spam that world slash. That's all. Maybe he could only use it for one time because it is Sukuna's CT with extended range. or maybe there is a cooldown? Hard to say but we do know he can't use it freely. So no Sukuna isn't holding back.
But once again you ignored the fact that Sukuna says it is impossible to bypass and kill gojo without mahoraga. Herculean task.
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bro, what the hell is this essay, anyways, i will answer this tomoerrow lol
But its crazy how people still coping this much when gojo himself (the dude with a 6 eyes, that could perfectly see sukunas output, which means that gojo could literally see if sukuna was actually going 100%via his output ) but he said that sukuna wasnt going all out lmao, even said that he was glad to die by someone >>stronger<< and also said that even withouth 10S, he didnt knew if he could beat MEGKUNA( imagine true form lmao )
Thats crazy
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
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Kenjaku (羂けん索じゃく, Kenjaku?) is one of the primary antagonists of the Jujutsu Kaisen series. He is an ancient sorcerer who has goals against the Jujutsu High and Tengen, using curses to complete his plan. Tier: At least Low 7-C, far higher with Maximum Uzumaki Name: Kenjaku, Noritoshi Kamo, Kaori...
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Who cooked Kenjaku profile?
His tier is lacking compared to his AP justification.
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I'll fix that.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
9 punches are a lot of punches. Every attack decreases the output, I didn’t deny it. I said in order to have any relevant decrease it needs a lot of hits.
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well, yeah, but still decreases it, even if its not that much..
that sukuna is very inconsistent and unquantifiable to use as a proper scalling
 
I'm REALLY surprised that we scale Toji and Maki to supersonic+

Shouldn't we make another key for Maki if thats the case? The profile only covers after her realization
 
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