Reaction doesn't fit better, he can't move at mhs+. And no perception is about processing and activation.
Reaction is not moving (I still don't know why that description didn't changed in the speed page)
It is about movement. Perception fits better. And I was slightly wrong, Perception is about noticing events but not reacting as well
No, its not
No one is talking about punching. I'm talking about reacting aka movements. We aren't disagreeing.
Sukuna and gojo could maybe, there are moments in the battle where sukuna moves so fast that gojo barely reacts, for example in chap 231, where gojo uses "clones", sukuna grabs one of gojos hand and punches him but Gojo only blocks the punch at literally point blank, if sukuna only had hypersonic speeds, gojo having MHS+ perceptions wouldnt block his punches at point blank
Hypersonic is from Maki immediately after her realization, thus Toji would scale to that the very least
That isn't how scaling works. And they are both nerfed considering its post domain battles.
How are you being this dense? The movements I'm talking about are the ones reaction speed is referring to.
The only ones known to get stronger are the ones who do soul swaps.
No Maki is also getting Hypersonic scaling from Sukuna in the sandbox
Ah I see. Nvm then.
No, she's not. That's her own speed from her feat. I put the reference in the wrong place is all, its fixed now
YES, it gives a short movement but this does not mean that the movement will be at the same speed of the reaction
Nothing seems definitive, but it would line up with the entire narrative that the new generation has high potential
What? It does work, if sukuna has hypersonic combat speed and gojo has MHS+ perception, why and how would gojo blocks the punch only when it was a few inches away? He wouldve perceived the punch literally in slow mo if it had hypersonic speed
You're wrong. It is clearly talking about those movements being the reactions. I don't get what the issue is.
Yet that's what we see. Gojo has slower reactions/perception, you yourself are showing that by his late reaction. Meanwhile Gojo's reactions in the beginning were like this.
You saying it should just be scrapped?
Kind of but it was just a way to keep people from saying “oh they should scale to the black flash timeframe” despite that timeframe being entirely based on cursed energy application in a strike which has nothing to do with movement. The closest thing we had for it was perception speed and it’s barely that since it could also be a trained timing thing
Doesn't warhammer characters have MFTL+ perception for similar reasons tho?
I would say to come to a middle ground for those who think it should be reaction or perception, it could be a likely rating.
Yeah that's what I wanted it to be, but knowing people its gonna be asked "why doesn't Sukuna scale also".
Well we see during the second domain clash that Sukuna is capable of making movements faster than Gojo's reaction timeframe up close
I was talking about the part where he moves behind Gojo to grab his leg, but that's worth mentioning igThis?
This?
MFW I may have accidentally allowed MHS+ a chance to return
Some have it as MHS+, FTL, or MFTL+ and it’s cause those instances have them either think or see events within microseconds, nanoseconds, or they literally just see lasers as frozen in one instance but their main combat speed remains lower since despite that they can’t move that fast. Hell the guy who saw lasers as frozen a page later iirc literally got stabbed by a spear from a dude who is very much not mftl+
That isn't really speed. Gojo wasn't blitzed by it or anything like that.
I wasn't trying to say that. Who do you think I am, LIGHTYW?
No okay I'm saying this is less speed and more Sukuna's just good at maneuvering is all.
Yeah, thats the big problem. MHS+ perception speed would allow Gojo to basically see Sukuna moving at slow motion, which is very weird since theres zero things that implies such thing in their fight
So speed. Got it
Eh but that means mhs+ returning and ehhhh. Also if they were moving that fast does that make the rest of the cast mhs+ cause they were able to watch the fight without it being an insane speed blitz of a viewing
Mei Mei livestream feat if we're being real
JJK problems ig
