Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Sir_sun_man]

im going to be fair too here, he thinks DIO wins against Sukuna because of "light speed punches on time stop" and "CE reinforcement will stop because of time stop"

ah yes light speed punches from a being of dubious matter and CE reinforcement that is already in effect will for what ever reason just turn off the second time stops.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Okay I don't necessarily disagree. Dio does win due to time stop, and if you just decide to ignore how KE functions, then a light speed punch would destroy Sukuna. Even without that, Stands can just phase through and crush his heart in time stop.

 

[M3X_2.0]

This is only temporary. Sukuna would’ve died by Maki if he didn’t make his heart beat and regenerate.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

This is only temporary. Sukuna would’ve died by Maki if he didn’t make his heart beat and regenerate.

yeah, whats preventing that exactly? its not like his heart needs to beat if time is stopped.

 

[M3X_2.0]

yeah, whats preventing that exactly? its not like his heart needs to beat if time is stopped.

What are you even talking about

 

[Arkenis]

yeah, whats preventing that exactly? its not like his heart needs to beat if time is stopped.

Time stop happening what like every couple of seconds. And the fact Dio's time stop gets longer and longer. Then take into account the other abilities like him absorbing him, him targeting his eyes, he can freeze all of Sukuna's water killing him instantly.

 

[Arkenis]

Stands are said to be only affected by other stands, so it makes sense that the only type of space manip they get affected by is the space manip of another stand, sorry if this is an stupid question

That doesn't make sense when you put it into context. It's talking about Stands interacting with one another. If this was the case the calamity, a force of the universe should not have an effect on them.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

This is only temporary. Sukuna would’ve died by Maki if he didn’t make his heart beat and regenerate.

Why Maki didnt aim his head, is she stupid

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Why Maki didnt aim his head, is she stupid

She think she is Thor

 

[SunDaGamer]

It's not different. CE is still spiritual, Cursed Spirits are still spiritual.

The body of a Cursed Spirit and the soul of a Cursed Spirit have some distinction. You don't have to be able to perceive the soul to see, interact with and harm a Cursed Spirit's body (which is made of Cursed Energy, that's why they are invisible to normal people in the first place) and by damaging a curse's body enough with CE, you can exorcise one irrespective of anything relating to sensing souls. It took a Cursed Spirit whose whole CT revolves around manipulating souls to form a Cursed Spirit that can't be truly harmed without soul perception. Hell, Cursed Spirits literally become more physical when their bodies are made of more CE. There's also the stuff with Jogo saying their souls will circulate after their deaths and Jogo talking to Hanami and Dagon's souls after their bodies have been reduced to char or smoke.

And Daido couldn't see souls, he was seeing everything else and predicting off that like Maki did.

Daido awakening the Split Soul Katana's true power thanks to his senses is what Maki was trying to achieve

 

[Rosa]

How is cursed spirits operating on a different wavelength of light which is entirely undetectable by human senses any different from a spirit in another verse which is only visible through extrasensory perception?

 

[Sir_sun_man]

What are you even talking about

you said that he would've died if he didn't regen, why wouldn't he regen if his heart got crushed? he can clearly live without one for an extended period of time, so why wouldn't he just ya know get out of time stop restart his blood circ with CE and regen with RCT?

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Time stop happening what like every couple of seconds. And the fact Dio's time stop gets longer and longer. Then take into account the other abilities like him absorbing him, him targeting his eyes, he can freeze all of Sukuna's water killing him instantly.

this is part 3 dio, he doesn't have that due to jonathans body being hamon filled and dio not having full control yet* and unless we are giving Dio a jostar to munch on that control is not improving and neither is his time stop (since it only started getting better past that point)

and yeah time stop would be happening every couple of seconds cuse unless dio wants to be dust in less than a second he'd need it since sukuna would pull his domain which-DIO-can't-see-btw the second the first time stop would be done since having his heart crushed before he could even react would likely prompt a bit of a drastic action.

Plus... its DIO the man would monalauge and that would lead to a bit of an issue with the bloodthirsty trigger happy maniac that can one tap him.

 

[M3X_2.0]

this is part 3 dio, he doesn't have that due to jonathans body being hamon filled and dio not having full control yet

He does have ice manip with Jonathan's body. He just not use because The World and Stands in general made them obsolete. What's he gonna do? Freeze Star Platinum?

 

[Sir_sun_man]

He does have ice manip with Jonathan's body. He just not use because The World and Stands in general made them obsolete. What's he gonna do? Freeze Star Platinum?

or ya know jotaro, polnareff or joseph each of whom he had his hands on, multiple times in some instances, also if he had ice manip that would also mean he would have his stinger eyes which he just doesn't otherwise he'd use it on jotaro at least once and the only explonation as to why he doesn't is because he still doesn't have 100% control of the body.

 

[M3X_2.0]

or ya know jotaro, polnareff or joseph each of whom he had his hands on, multiple times in some instances, also if he had ice manip that would also mean he would have his stinger eyes which he just doesn't otherwise he'd use it on jotaro at least once.

He does, he has everything from Part 1. Araki has said that he still has all of this but said it's also useless. It was even present in the old OVAs and that was secondary canon for a decade. It makes no sense to say "it's Jonathan body" because Jonathan didn't have vampiric regeneration, blood manipulation, poison and more from standard vampire abilities.

 

[Arkenis]

or ya know jotaro, polnareff or joseph each of whom he had his hands on, multiple times in some instances, also if he had ice manip that would also mean he would have his stinger eyes which he just doesn't otherwise he'd use it on jotaro at least once and the only explonation as to why he doesn't is because he still doesn't have 100% control of the body.

Or he rather use the ability bestowed upon him from the world (Za world!). The guy’s a egoistical, self obsessed, deranged, narcissistic, vampire. This is like giving a kid a bunch of cool stuff and then you give him the PS5, and suddenly that’s all he focuses on.