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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

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another argument about stands bypassing infinity
 
IamMadeOutOfStone said:
he saying since heat and lighting there weren't natural (they were made of ce) dont count and natural lighting should be able to bypass infinity
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Yeah ik, and I'm saying the notion itself is absurd. The infinity isn't regulated to only ce based creations, it's the real phenomenon of infinity being locally applied to Gojo.

IamMadeOutOfStone said:
im going to be fair too here, he thinks DIO wins against Sukuna because of "light speed punches on time stop" and "CE reinforcement will stop because of time stop"
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Okay I don't necessarily disagree. Dio does win due to time stop, and if you just decide to ignore how KE functions, then a light speed punch would destroy Sukuna. Even without that, Stands can just phase through and crush his heart in time stop.
 
Oliver_de_jesus said:
Nah, Gojo can see things that are invisible to people who see invisible thing, which is the same case for Stands (invisible to people who see invisible things), so he can percibe them and blocks out
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Only stand users can see stands that haven't been imbued into physical objects and that rule extends to non-stand users that can perceive ghosts and souls, stands would be invisible to everyone in JJK
 
SunDaGamer said:
Only stand users can see stands that haven't been imbued into physical objects and that rule extends to non-stand users that can perceive ghosts and souls, stands would be invisible to everyone in JJK
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I think Gojo and those who can see Sukuna's slashes should be able to see no? Stands just have layered invisibility and Sukuna's slashes are layered.
 
Also, time to revive this match since Jojo is being talked about.
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Arkenis said:
I think Gojo and those who can see Sukuna's slashes should be able to see no? Stands just have layered invisibility and Sukuna's slashes are layered.
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Applying layered invis like that is kinda nonsensical since this is more of a condition-based thing. Gojo being able to see Sukuna's cursed energy slashes has no correlation to whatever the virus that creates stand users does to the physiology of a stand user
 
SunDaGamer said:
Applying layered invis is kinda nonsensical since this is more of a condition-based thing. Gojo being able to see Sukuna's cursed energy slashes has no correlation to whatever the virus that creates stand users does to the physiology of a stand user
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Wdym? Stands are just vital energy/soul, with ce being invisible -> Sukuna's slashes being even more invisible -> Soul being more invisible -> Gojo can see souls. He should be able to see them.
 
Arkenis said:
Wdym? Stands are just vital energy/soul, with ce being invisible -> Sukuna's slashes being even more invisible -> Soul being more invisible -> Gojo can see souls. He should be able to see them.
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Only stand users can see stands that haven't been imbued into physical objects and that rule extends to non-stand users that can perceive ghosts and souls, stands would be invisible to everyone in JJK
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SunDaGamer said:
them
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I'm reading the Stand page. Stand's have layered invisibility because

Note: In order to see, touch or sense Stands, the character in question would need some form of enhanced Extrasensory Perception and enhanced Non-Physical Interaction, something above what ghosts can see, sense or touch. This is because not even ghosts or spirts can see or touch Stands, as seen with Reimi Sugimoto's interactions with Heaven's Door. Another instance where this happened, was when Mikitaka could not see Crazy Diamond, but was able to see and interact with Reimi Sugimoto.
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In JJK this is different, Soul's are the top of the layering instead. Just because spirits are lesser invisible in Jojo doesn't mean they are in JJK.
 
Arkenis said:
In JJK this is different, Soul's are the top of the layering instead. Just because spirits are lesser invisible in Jojo doesn't mean they are in JJK.
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Being layered above Cursed Energy related phenomena doesn't actually prove that the souls in JJK would have superior layering to anything spiritual. The physical bodies of Cursed Spirits and Cursed Energy exist as a second form of light that a normal human brain can't usually perceive but wearing special glasses, like how we have thermal goggles to see infrared which is outside the visible light spectrum, can let non-sorcerers like the President of the USA see curses. Souls being impercetible is a whole different topic since it's possible for non-sorcerers like Daido, who don't know even know a lick about using Cursed Energy let alone seeing curses, to perceive them
 
SunDaGamer said:
Being layered above Cursed Energy related phenomena doesn't actually prove that the souls in JJK would have superior layering to anything spiritual. The physical bodies of Cursed Spirits and Cursed Energy exist as a second form of light that a normal human brain can't usually perceive but wearing special glasses, like how we have thermal goggles to see infrared which is outside the visible light spectrum, can let non-sorcerers like the President of the USA see curses. Souls being impercetible is a whole different topic since it's possible for non-sorcerers like Daido, who don't know even know a lick about using Cursed Energy let alone seeing curses, to perceive them
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It's not different. CE is still spiritual, Cursed Spirits are still spiritual. And Daido couldn't see souls, he was seeing everything else and predicting off that like Maki did.
 
The broader point should be that the way Gojo's infinity works is through manipulating space, so anything which travels along space would logically be affected (including sub-atomic energy, including intangible or spiritual substances, including electricity or things which exist as a wave), the only debate to be had is whether or not Gojo needs to be able to react to the speed of the incoming thing to bend space at a fast enough rate to stop it.
 
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