IamMadeOutOfStone
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true form from the heian era or current true form, cause im sure there was a match between gojo and heian era sukuna and it was an inconpov: True form sukuna mid diffs gojo
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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EldemadeDityjon
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If you don't mind can you check it out.
Oh it is my calc lmao,
JJK - Kashimo's Steam Explosion
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But I think someone else did it as well.
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I still disagree with that conlusion because most people just argued that sukuna would fight the same as he did in the actual fight even though he'd have 2 more tools than he had during the domain fight and two more arms and while hiten is an unknown kamotuke gives him a rather solid offense option for when gojo's domain goes down to further amplify the damage gojo takes making it a far more scewed fight than it was in the actual manga and having two arms would also off set the actual neck a neck situation in the 3 min domain clash which would lead to gojo losing all of the domain clashes and dying.
EldemadeDityjon
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Well Gojo has more fans in the site they don't care about facts. They just want to see Gojo win even if they had to make up headcanons.
EldemadeDityjon
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Oliver_de_jesus
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Ywah wtf with translations
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? He's using blue to fling him away. He's not directly taking it in a lethal form of blue orb impacting his ass.Gojo did used blue on Sukuna. Sukuna durability was able to tank it. I mean normal blue.
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Wait are they arguing that blue Enhanced punches are the same as normal blue orb?
If that's the case we would be seeing this. They don't look non existent at all when manifested on a normal output level. There are varying levels of output as we know. He's clearly not using that high level of output for his punches enhanced by blue
This is normally dependent on the level of output used.
For example infusing tiny bit of red into a pencil is not stronger than a normal basketball sized blue orb. Or a maximum blue output whatsoever. It's never stated this was the case. We can however infer that a hypothetical maximum red output is twice the CE output of maximum blue output. So there's that.
Anyways, regarding Sukuna taking red that I'm seeing here being talked about: Sukuna never tanks red. Best you got is him taking it from round 2 gojo with a brain damage directly centered on precisely where his CT is, which is quite a heavy nerf. Whilst using DA.
As for the first instance, that was domain buffed Sukuna versus bleeding from everywhere damaged gojo, who used red against Sukuna where Sukuna's DE had the debuff effect against any CT used inside of his DE. On top of that he just newly recovered his Ct from the burnout after recently just destroying part of his brain and regenerating it, and did that much damage whilst he had no domain buff for himself, pulled off a quick red.
You can't even scale Sukuna here anywhere. At all.
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Just a misunderstanding
EldemadeDityjon
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Check the second scan. Sukuna surroundings were crushed by Blue. He was trying to stand up.
Arkenis
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Which one?
EldemadeDityjon
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^Gojo did used blue on Sukuna. Sukuna durability was able to tank it. I mean normal blue.
Arkenis
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He's being pulled, that's not the same thing.
EldemadeDityjon
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What leg pulled
Arkenis
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WHO SAID LEG????What leg pulled
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He's literally being pulled by blue backwards yes. Where is he tanking it?
Is the paper clone guy also tanking blue now for being pulled away? Like what.
Also his surroundings weren't being crushed. Only the place where he reached a level height, could he place his legs down and then the blue stopped. He was going to stand but rolled away since gojo was trying to stomp.
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Eldemade discombobulating people with his messages is my favorite genre of discussion thread
EldemadeDityjon
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My bad. I read it wrong lmao.
Anyway second scan you can literally see him putting Effort to stand up. His eyes literally shows blank expression in one of the panels.
EldemadeDityjon
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Whatever makes you sleep at night
Arkenis
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Dude he's not putting effort to stand he's hearing Gojo stomping to him lmao
EldemadeDityjon
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Look at his eyes. It's clearly the expression when Gege draws characters putting some efforts. 3rd panel in this page. It's clearly shows him putting his hand on the ground and trying to stand up. Next panel seems like CT got undone because Gojo was trying to crush him with his foot. Sukuna dodges it.
Oliver_de_jesus
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At least a 1/10 come from bad translations but i get you
EldemadeDityjon
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Anyone shared this here 
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once you get into the mentality of "all the people who disagree with me are just dishonest and are liars" then you're probably too deep into your beliefs to have a valuable conversation on the topic
One thing to note in regards to the current conversation, Sukuna mentioned that even with DA protecting his body he can't mitigate the full force of red or blue so...
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You saying this for or against Sukuna scaling to blue?
Also wtf is this argument even about at this point. First I thought it was output, then turns out it was about resistance to spatial manip or something, now its back to output and Sukuna resisting the force of blue. Wtf is even being argued here exactly
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Not really sure, I'm just against the notion that Sukuna can "tank" red. I think he scales to them in the sense he can survive them with non-severe injury, but Sukuna never tanks anything of Gojo's (same way Gojo scales to but can't tank any of Sukuna's slashes).
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I think I was the first person to bring up Sukuna "tanking" red so I'm just gonna say it, when I say "tank", like 99% of the time I don't mean "took with no visible or little visible damage" I mean "took with no severe or major injuries".
Obviously Sukuna isn't uninjured by red but he's still able to survive it relatively well, even if he's amped a bit by DA
EldemadeDityjon
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"Implying True form Sukuna is less skilled than Agito, Mahoraga and Grasshopper curse"
Yeah this is not dishonest arguments made by Gojo supporters in that thread. It all has to do with my mentality?
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If you want to call out specific people, go ahead, but I can also list absurd cope arguments from Sukuna fans. I've been told heian era Sukuna would simply "figure out" the WCS immediately and modern Sukuna was just "rusty", I've been told that Sukuna held back on domain refinement to let Gojo be evenly matched, I've been told that Gojo is only 1F Sukuna level, I've been told that Yorozu was more impressive against Sukuna, I've been told that Gojo is closer to Jogo's level than he is to Sukuna's, I've been told that Gojo is slower than Kashimo, Kusakabe, Maki, Yuji, etc., that Sukuna has a secret third CT he never used, that Sukuna faked having brain damage ("Implying True form Sukuna is less skilled than Agito, Mahoraga and Grasshopper curse"
Yeah this is not dishonest arguments made by Gojo supporters in that thread. It all has to do with my mentality?
), like we can all list wacky arguments we've heard and make generalisations.
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"Implying True form Sukuna is less skilled than Agito, Mahoraga and Grasshopper curse"
Yeah this is not dishonest arguments made by Gojo supporters in that thread. It all has to do with my mentality?
If you want to call out specific people, go ahead, but I can also list absurd cope arguments from Sukuna fans. I've been told heian era Sukuna would simply "figure out" the WCS immediately and modern Sukuna was just "rusty", I've been told that Sukuna held back on domain refinement to let Gojo be evenly matched, I've been told that Gojo is only 1F Sukuna level, I've been told that Yorozu was more impressive against Sukuna, I've been told that Gojo is closer to Jogo's level than he is to Sukuna's, I've been told that Gojo is slower than Kashimo, Kusakabe, Maki, Yuji, etc., that Sukuna has a secret third CT he never used, that Sukuna faked having brain damage (
These are... certainly takes. Some of the takes of all time some would say
EldemadeDityjon
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I did specifically said Gojo fans from that thread though? Did I said anything about other sites. Gojo fans also got crazy coping arguments outside the wiki. Bringing those here is useless. Which I don't care. I was specifically talking about Sukuna vs Gojo thread.If you want to call out specific people, go ahead, but I can also list absurd cope arguments from Sukuna fans. I've been told heian era Sukuna would simply "figure out" the WCS immediately and modern Sukuna was just "rusty", I've been told that Sukuna held back on domain refinement to let Gojo be evenly matched, I've been told that Gojo is only 1F Sukuna level, I've been told that Yorozu was more impressive against Sukuna, I've been told that Gojo is closer to Jogo's level than he is to Sukuna's, I've been told that Gojo is slower than Kashimo, Kusakabe, Maki, Yuji, etc., that Sukuna has a secret third CT he never used, that Sukuna faked having brain damage (
Edit: My bad. Now that I checked I should have specified. I mentioned site but overall that was pointed at the thread. That's why I replied to @Sir_sun_man
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whether on site or off it's the same, and again if it's on site you can @ them. I'll even go first:
@Guacamolefletcher your take that Gojo is relative to 1F Sukuna and Maki is relative to 16F Sukuna whilst slower than human Naoya is absurd
my point is that saying "well Gojo stans say x and y" is a generalisation argument and doesn't excuse dismissing a position outright.
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As far as I know, normal users can't tag other members of the site, so that doesn't work.
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Why is Guac catching a stray right now? Leave Guac be
EldemadeDityjon
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I just don't want to waste my time checking the thread again seeing how less those arguments makes sense. Especially there were 2 matches and Both threads has like more than 10-15 pages.
LMAO
Well my bad then. I'm just too lazy to check those massive threads.
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he came back to discord after months and started glazing ass music, he deserves the strays
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If this is in reference to the whole extra arms not being an issue for Gojo then its not really absurd. I've probably given the example already, but Kashimo handled the four arms decently well, considering he's inferior to Gojo in h2h like everyone is; then there's the fact that Gojo fought a 2v1 against two abnormally tall opponents with reach like Sukuna and he did so brained damaged and holding back his ct."Implying True form Sukuna is less skilled than Agito, Mahoraga and Grasshopper curse"
Yeah this is not dishonest arguments made by Gojo supporters in that thread. It all has to do with my mentality?
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