Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[EldemadeDityjon]

Sukuna doesn't scale to blue.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Sukuna doesn't scale to blue.

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Mf also tanks red like 5 times

 

[GunshyFever]

"Tanks"

 

[Arkenis]

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Mf also tanks red like 5 times

That's debris from Blue.

This is Blue

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Kenjaku surviving 2 six eyed Users in the past is mystery.
What do you guys think any theories

 

[Arkenis]

Kenjaku surviving 2 six eyed Users in the past is mystery.
What do you guys think any theories

Probably ran away.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Probably ran away.

I mean running away from Six eyes not once but twice?

 

[Duedate8898]

That's debris from Blue.

This is Blue

Sukuna spends the entire fight, not in the domain, tanking blue enhanced strikes. If we're going to act like he can't scale to Red, we need to at least admit that he tanks Blue.

 

[Arkenis]

Sukuna spends the entire fight, not in the domain, tanking blue enhanced strikes. If we're going to act like he can't scale to Red, we need to at least admit that he tanks Blue.

Again that's not Blue, that's Blued enhanced punches.

 

[Duedate8898]

Kenjaku surviving 2 six eyed Users in the past is mystery.
What do you guys think any theories

They weren't as strong as Gojo nor the same threat, so the battles were probably more even and allowed for Kenjaku to survive

 

[Arkenis]

 

[Duedate8898]

Again that's not Blue, that's Blued enhanced punches.

Blue enhanced punches is just blue surrounding gojo's fist. It's not a wholly new techinque that Gojo is using, nor is it even an extension. It's just Blue surrounding his fist.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

"Tanks"

The fact he doesn’t get mulched by something with twice the output of blue means he can tank a blue

Kenjaku surviving 2 six eyed Users in the past is mystery.
What do you guys think any theories

Having six eyes doesn’t mean they have limitless. Having six eyes would just give them good efficiency. For all we know their technique could’ve been a f*cking culling games tier technique (ie some f*cking weird ass hair thing like knives in their hair or some sh*t)

 

[Arkenis]

Blue enhanced punches is just blue surrounding gojo's fist. It's not a wholly new techinque that Gojo is using, nor is it even an extension. It's just Blue surrounding his fist.

its not

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

That's debris from Blue.

This is Blue

Gojo not doing something like this could also just mean he thinks it wouldn’t be effective

 

[Arkenis]

Gojo not doing something like this could also just mean he thinks it wouldn’t be effective

Just an assumption. And it could not be effective because Sukuna would dodge

 

[Arkenis]

The fact he doesn’t get mulched by something with twice the output of blue means he can tank a blue

Red and Blue have different effects though? Red's blasting whatever it touches away from it, Blue warps space to fix the error in the world.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Just an assumption. And it could not be effective because Sukuna would dodge

There were several points where Sukuna wouldn’t have been able to dodge. Hell he could’ve used it in the scan I used to show him surviving a blue considering that one hit

Red and Blue have different effects though? Red's blasting whatever it touches away from it, Blue warps space to fix the error in the world.

Red would still be outputting more force than a Blue just through it having twice the CE output

 

[Arkenis]

There were several points where Sukuna wouldn’t have been able to dodge. Hell he could’ve used it in the scan I used to show him surviving a blue considering that one hit

So what? He didn't do it, he didn't do it.

Red would still be outputting more force than a Blue just through it having twice the CE output

When I said scale I meant being unaffected by Blue itself. Like yeah the guy scales physically to the energy output but Blue's warping of space he doesn't scale to.

 

[Arkenis]

I mean running away from Six eyes not once but twice?

BTW, what happened to this being removed from Infinity?

The main cast agrees that Gojo's Infinity is impossible to bypass and is inviolable,[17] which means that the many Cursed Techniques they've witnessed are useless against him, which likely include Uro's Thin Ice Breaker, a technique that Yuta can use,[18][19] Kenjaku's Antigravity System Reversal,[20] and Yuki's Black Hole[21])

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

So what? He didn't do it, he didn't do it.

If he didn’t use it, there’s probably a reason. He probably thought it wasn’t going to work. Or if we go with Nanami’s beliefs it may have worked but Gojo wanted to prolong the fight because he wanted a good fight or whatever the hell

When I said scale I meant being unaffected by Blue itself. Like yeah the guy scales physically to the energy output but Blue's warping of space he doesn't scale to.

Wait that’s what we’re talking about? I thought we were talking about just him surviving the output/force? Then yeah Sukuna doesn’t have any resistance to spatial manip obviously unless we go with the black flash distorting space or whatever that bs was

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

They weren't as strong as Gojo nor the same threat, so the battles were probably more even and allowed for Kenjaku to survive

The fact he doesn’t get mulched by something with twice the output of blue means he can tank a blue


Having six eyes doesn’t mean they have limitless. Having six eyes would just give them good efficiency. For all we know their technique could’ve been a f*cking culling games tier technique (ie some f*cking weird ass hair thing like knives in their hair or some sh*t)

Didn't Tengen he lost low diff or something

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

BTW, what happened to this being removed from Infinity?

@SunDaGamer downgrade thread got accepted. So this should be removed

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Didn't Tengen he lost low diff or something

Nah he just said the six eyes user showed up day of, no elaboration

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

If he didn’t use it, there’s probably a reason. He probably thought it wasn’t going to work. Or if we go with Nanami’s beliefs it may have worked but Gojo wanted to prolong the fight because he wanted a good fight or whatever the hell


Wait that’s what we’re talking about? I thought we were talking about just him surviving the output/force? Then yeah Sukuna doesn’t have any resistance to spatial manip obviously unless we go with the black flash distorting space or whatever that bs was

Gojo did used blue on Sukuna. Sukuna durability was able to tank it. I mean normal blue.

 

[Arkenis]

Oh yeah what happened with Kashimo's explosion calc?

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Oh yeah what happened with Kashimo's explosion calc?

Which one?

 

[Arkenis]

Which one?

The steam one

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

The steam one

I genuinely don’t remember which one that is. I think I mentally checked out on the kashimo fight lmao

 

[Arkenis]

I genuinely don’t remember which one that is. I think I mentally checked out on the kashimo fight lmao

Oh it is my calc lmao,

JJK - Kashimo's Steam Explosion

vsbattles.fandom.com

But I think someone else did it as well.

 

[LIGHTYW]

pov: True form sukuna mid diffs gojo

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

pov: True form sukuna mid diffs gojo

true form from the heian era or current true form, cause im sure there was a match between gojo and heian era sukuna and it was an incon

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I genuinely don’t remember which one that is. I think I mentally checked out on the kashimo fight lmao

If you don't mind can you check it out.

Oh it is my calc lmao,

JJK - Kashimo's Steam Explosion

vsbattles.fandom.com

But I think someone else did it as well.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

true form from the heian era or current true form, cause im sure there was a match between gojo and heian era sukuna and it was an incon

I still disagree with that conlusion because most people just argued that sukuna would fight the same as he did in the actual fight even though he'd have 2 more tools than he had during the domain fight and two more arms and while hiten is an unknown kamotuke gives him a rather solid offense option for when gojo's domain goes down to further amplify the damage gojo takes making it a far more scewed fight than it was in the actual manga and having two arms would also off set the actual neck a neck situation in the 3 min domain clash which would lead to gojo losing all of the domain clashes and dying.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I still disagree with that conlusion because most people just argued that sukuna would fight the same as he did in the actual fight even though he'd have 2 more tools than he had during the domain fight and two more arms and while hiten is an unknown kamotuke gives him a rather solid offense option for when gojo's domain goes down to further amplify the damage gojo takes making it a far more scewed fight than it was in the actual manga and having two arms would also off set the actual neck a neck situation in the 3 min domain clash which would lead to gojo losing all of the domain clashes and dying.

Well Gojo has more fans in the site they don't care about facts. They just want to see Gojo win even if they had to make up headcanons.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Ywah wtf with translations

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

If you don't mind can you check it out.

I do mind actually

Eval'd it. Just use the 8-C end for what M3X said.

 

[TheGunsFinalWrath]

Gojo did used blue on Sukuna. Sukuna durability was able to tank it. I mean normal blue.

? He's using blue to fling him away. He's not directly taking it in a lethal form of blue orb impacting his ass.

 

[TheGunsFinalWrath]

Again that's not Blue, that's Blued enhanced punches.

Wait are they arguing that blue Enhanced punches are the same as normal blue orb?

If that's the case we would be seeing this. They don't look non existent at all when manifested on a normal output level. There are varying levels of output as we know. He's clearly not using that high level of output for his punches enhanced by blue

Red would still be outputting more force than a Blue just through it having twice the CE output

This is normally dependent on the level of output used.
For example infusing tiny bit of red into a pencil is not stronger than a normal basketball sized blue orb. Or a maximum blue output whatsoever. It's never stated this was the case. We can however infer that a hypothetical maximum red output is twice the CE output of maximum blue output. So there's that.

Anyways, regarding Sukuna taking red that I'm seeing here being talked about: Sukuna never tanks red. Best you got is him taking it from round 2 gojo with a brain damage directly centered on precisely where his CT is, which is quite a heavy nerf. Whilst using DA.

As for the first instance, that was domain buffed Sukuna versus bleeding from everywhere damaged gojo, who used red against Sukuna where Sukuna's DE had the debuff effect against any CT used inside of his DE. On top of that he just newly recovered his Ct from the burnout after recently just destroying part of his brain and regenerating it, and did that much damage whilst he had no domain buff for himself, pulled off a quick red.

You can't even scale Sukuna here anywhere. At all.