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Just a misunderstanding
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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EldemadeDityjon
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Check the second scan. Sukuna surroundings were crushed by Blue. He was trying to stand up.
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Which one?
EldemadeDityjon
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^Gojo did used blue on Sukuna. Sukuna durability was able to tank it. I mean normal blue.
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He's being pulled, that's not the same thing.
EldemadeDityjon
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What leg pulled
Arkenis
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WHO SAID LEG????What leg pulled
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He's literally being pulled by blue backwards yes. Where is he tanking it?
Is the paper clone guy also tanking blue now for being pulled away? Like what.
Also his surroundings weren't being crushed. Only the place where he reached a level height, could he place his legs down and then the blue stopped. He was going to stand but rolled away since gojo was trying to stomp.
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Eldemade discombobulating people with his messages is my favorite genre of discussion thread
EldemadeDityjon
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My bad. I read it wrong lmao.
Anyway second scan you can literally see him putting Effort to stand up. His eyes literally shows blank expression in one of the panels.
EldemadeDityjon
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Whatever makes you sleep at night
Arkenis
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Dude he's not putting effort to stand he's hearing Gojo stomping to him lmao
EldemadeDityjon
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Look at his eyes. It's clearly the expression when Gege draws characters putting some efforts. 3rd panel in this page. It's clearly shows him putting his hand on the ground and trying to stand up. Next panel seems like CT got undone because Gojo was trying to crush him with his foot. Sukuna dodges it.
Oliver_de_jesus
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At least a 1/10 come from bad translations but i get you
EldemadeDityjon
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Anyone shared this here 
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once you get into the mentality of "all the people who disagree with me are just dishonest and are liars" then you're probably too deep into your beliefs to have a valuable conversation on the topic
One thing to note in regards to the current conversation, Sukuna mentioned that even with DA protecting his body he can't mitigate the full force of red or blue so...
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You saying this for or against Sukuna scaling to blue?
Also wtf is this argument even about at this point. First I thought it was output, then turns out it was about resistance to spatial manip or something, now its back to output and Sukuna resisting the force of blue. Wtf is even being argued here exactly
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Not really sure, I'm just against the notion that Sukuna can "tank" red. I think he scales to them in the sense he can survive them with non-severe injury, but Sukuna never tanks anything of Gojo's (same way Gojo scales to but can't tank any of Sukuna's slashes).
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I think I was the first person to bring up Sukuna "tanking" red so I'm just gonna say it, when I say "tank", like 99% of the time I don't mean "took with no visible or little visible damage" I mean "took with no severe or major injuries".
Obviously Sukuna isn't uninjured by red but he's still able to survive it relatively well, even if he's amped a bit by DA
EldemadeDityjon
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"Implying True form Sukuna is less skilled than Agito, Mahoraga and Grasshopper curse"
Yeah this is not dishonest arguments made by Gojo supporters in that thread. It all has to do with my mentality?
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If you want to call out specific people, go ahead, but I can also list absurd cope arguments from Sukuna fans. I've been told heian era Sukuna would simply "figure out" the WCS immediately and modern Sukuna was just "rusty", I've been told that Sukuna held back on domain refinement to let Gojo be evenly matched, I've been told that Gojo is only 1F Sukuna level, I've been told that Yorozu was more impressive against Sukuna, I've been told that Gojo is closer to Jogo's level than he is to Sukuna's, I've been told that Gojo is slower than Kashimo, Kusakabe, Maki, Yuji, etc., that Sukuna has a secret third CT he never used, that Sukuna faked having brain damage ("Implying True form Sukuna is less skilled than Agito, Mahoraga and Grasshopper curse"
Yeah this is not dishonest arguments made by Gojo supporters in that thread. It all has to do with my mentality?
), like we can all list wacky arguments we've heard and make generalisations.
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"Implying True form Sukuna is less skilled than Agito, Mahoraga and Grasshopper curse"
Yeah this is not dishonest arguments made by Gojo supporters in that thread. It all has to do with my mentality?
If you want to call out specific people, go ahead, but I can also list absurd cope arguments from Sukuna fans. I've been told heian era Sukuna would simply "figure out" the WCS immediately and modern Sukuna was just "rusty", I've been told that Sukuna held back on domain refinement to let Gojo be evenly matched, I've been told that Gojo is only 1F Sukuna level, I've been told that Yorozu was more impressive against Sukuna, I've been told that Gojo is closer to Jogo's level than he is to Sukuna's, I've been told that Gojo is slower than Kashimo, Kusakabe, Maki, Yuji, etc., that Sukuna has a secret third CT he never used, that Sukuna faked having brain damage (
These are... certainly takes. Some of the takes of all time some would say
EldemadeDityjon
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I did specifically said Gojo fans from that thread though? Did I said anything about other sites. Gojo fans also got crazy coping arguments outside the wiki. Bringing those here is useless. Which I don't care. I was specifically talking about Sukuna vs Gojo thread.If you want to call out specific people, go ahead, but I can also list absurd cope arguments from Sukuna fans. I've been told heian era Sukuna would simply "figure out" the WCS immediately and modern Sukuna was just "rusty", I've been told that Sukuna held back on domain refinement to let Gojo be evenly matched, I've been told that Gojo is only 1F Sukuna level, I've been told that Yorozu was more impressive against Sukuna, I've been told that Gojo is closer to Jogo's level than he is to Sukuna's, I've been told that Gojo is slower than Kashimo, Kusakabe, Maki, Yuji, etc., that Sukuna has a secret third CT he never used, that Sukuna faked having brain damage (
Edit: My bad. Now that I checked I should have specified. I mentioned site but overall that was pointed at the thread. That's why I replied to @Sir_sun_man
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whether on site or off it's the same, and again if it's on site you can @ them. I'll even go first:
@Guacamolefletcher your take that Gojo is relative to 1F Sukuna and Maki is relative to 16F Sukuna whilst slower than human Naoya is absurd
my point is that saying "well Gojo stans say x and y" is a generalisation argument and doesn't excuse dismissing a position outright.
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As far as I know, normal users can't tag other members of the site, so that doesn't work.
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Why is Guac catching a stray right now? Leave Guac be
EldemadeDityjon
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I just don't want to waste my time checking the thread again seeing how less those arguments makes sense. Especially there were 2 matches and Both threads has like more than 10-15 pages.
LMAO
Well my bad then. I'm just too lazy to check those massive threads.
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he came back to discord after months and started glazing ass music, he deserves the strays
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If this is in reference to the whole extra arms not being an issue for Gojo then its not really absurd. I've probably given the example already, but Kashimo handled the four arms decently well, considering he's inferior to Gojo in h2h like everyone is; then there's the fact that Gojo fought a 2v1 against two abnormally tall opponents with reach like Sukuna and he did so brained damaged and holding back his ct."Implying True form Sukuna is less skilled than Agito, Mahoraga and Grasshopper curse"
Yeah this is not dishonest arguments made by Gojo supporters in that thread. It all has to do with my mentality?
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Yuta and Yuji themselves offset the reach advantage too. The trouble is really just the extra arms, and it's more of a point for Sukuna to stalemate in h2h rather than turn around getting shitcanned in h2h
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He's only ever either stat boosted or using power nullification, not both. I don't believe Domain Amplification amps stats, it just negates techinques.Da is like
Stats boost + Power nullification
Also W stray there rosa
Edit: When getting hit with red I mean. Because he does do both at the same time in the fight.
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Pretty sure it's just power null. So technically its more just Sukuna is tanking a weakened red each timeDa is like
Stats boost + Power nullification
Also W stray there rosa
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I mean they were aided by several ct, RIKA, and Yuji's presence
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I mean their individual battles. Yuji proves numerous times that he can deal with Sukuna's reach, and Yuta had no trouble in that regard either despite struggling to adapt to using Gojo's body. The real trouble for Yuji was dealing with extra arms
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By the way, do you think Yuji will use fuga/open/divine flame in case merged leaves Megumi's body?
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Arkenis
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Oh yeah definitely. It's pretty crazy both them handled him well.
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Sukuna rarely uses his additional arms in skillful ways. In the recent chapters fighting Yuji he's not using any grapples or combinations, just punching with two arms in the same swing trajectory like this, and Yuta in Gojo's body was lowkey ragdolling Sukuna. The only time I think Sukuna used any grapple techniques was with Kashimo and he only successfully did so due to a large speed difference.
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