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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

eibwen said:
my issues with binding vow that its a VOW, a trade off, and that it has consequences, the descriptions of it does not make it sounds like a technique to be mastered, but IS used that way
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Eh, not really like that. Binding vows would only cause harm to Sukuna if he broke them. As of now he didn’t.

I see people saying that the downsides of the binding vows would catch Sukuna but does anyone know how it works in the first place?

He can make a thousand, and as long as he doesn’t break them, he’s fine. IIRC we know all of his vows and consequences now; the WCS now has to be used with chants and signs, Divine Flame has a vow to not be used on multiple targets etc etc.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Eh, not really like that. Binding vows would only cause harm to Sukuna if he broke them. As of now he didn’t.

I see people saying that the downsides of the binding vows would catch Sukuna but does anyone know how it works in the first place?

He can make a thousand, and as long as he doesn’t break them, he’s fine. IIRC we know all of his vows and consequences now; the WCS now has to be used with chants and signs, Divine Flame has a vow to not be used on multiple targets etc etc.
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do you think there's a secret voice to remind him everything that he need not to do? or does he have to remember them manually
 
Arkenis said:
Weirdest thing, Lightning translated 236.

Its like Lightning knew John was gonna **** it up, and just had to step in.

I know Lightning trans like two other series but she really should be on JJK more.

There's no way its just basic incompetence on SJ's part either, Gege must've ****** with a higher up so they sent their worst translator+google trans to destroy the manga.
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What are the other series she translates? Nue's Exorcist?
 
eibwen said:
do you think there's a secret voice to remind him everything that he need not to do? or does he have to remember them manually
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He only has 2-3 vows at best and he can't break them. Like WCS is just impossible with 2 hands. Fire arrow is fixed with single target outside the domain. Open barriers gives escape route.

He doesn't have any other vows which will give him life threatening risks as far as I remember.
 
Arkenis said:
Im talking about manga assistants not people explaining science and math to him lmao
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Sure but these ones are what actually allow him to further expand on the concepts he's using in the story. And he does have his editors for help if he needs any, should count as a "manga assistant" if need for any in regards to suggestion. Since he did get suggestions in the past from his previous editors.
EldemadeDityjon said:
What are the other series she
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She? Huh. Thought it was a guy tho 🤔
 
Arkenis said:
That is heat resistance. And by the looks of it very basic heat resistance. Oh and this was calced, he got MCB durability for it before. OH and this is his own ce so he's less damaged by it.

Seems like Gege doesn't want them scaling to their ultimate attacks?
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Resisting an explosion is more than "very basic heat resistance", there's still the force of the blast, and it being his own CE isn't that great of an answer. Ryu got damaged by his granite blast, Gojo by his hollow purple, yet these attacks aren't several tiers above their other attacks given they can both be survived by the same opponent. Also, where's the calc for this getting it to MCB? There hasn't even been a calc of the blast yet which treats it as a thermobaric explosion instead of defaulting to the standard formula for explosions.
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
If Sukuna scales to the Fire Arrow why he just didnt killed Itadori with a punch instead of risking himself by using a incomplete Domain
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1. You realise you can scale to something whilst it's still stronger than you to some degree? If red is 2x the potency of blue and red performs a galaxy level feat, yet blue only has building level showings, we clearly wouldn't reflect such a huge disparity on the profiles.
2. Furnace has many other valuable attributes, such as its nature as the decompression and supercompression of air being something you can't really defend against and also it's incredible range. For instance Sukuna scales to his own slashes, but a domain is still valuable to him when fighting opponents.
3. Sukuna did punch a chunk of Yuji's flesh off with a single blow right before activating his domain so...
 
Rosa said:
Resisting an explosion is more than "very basic heat resistance",
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It is basic heat resistance though. You can look at the ground around them, it didn't even vap it, it just broke it a lot.

Rosa said:
it being his own CE isn't that great of an answer. Ryu got damaged by his granite blast, Gojo by his hollow purple, yet these attacks aren't several tiers above their other attacks given they can both be survived by the same opponent.
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That proves my point more? The attacks are within their tier, and barely harms them.

Rosa said:
Also, where's the calc for this getting it to MCB? There hasn't even been a calc of the blast yet which treats it as a thermobaric explosion instead of defaulting to the standard formula for explosions.
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It was for the previous one calc. What is the formula for thermobaric explosions?

AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Why are we arguing about this when fire arrow is like over 10x weaker than where he currently scales at his peak
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They think since its a thermobaric explosion the formula will make it higher. Is there a formula for thermobaric explosions?
 
Arkenis said:
They think since its a thermobaric explosion the formula will make it higher. Is there a formula for thermobaric explosions?
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No clue and coming up with one is outside my nonexistent paygrade

LIFE_OF_KING said:
You need to wank better. I have seen 6-C versions of that feat. Wheres your motivation?
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Arkenis said:
It is basic heat resistance though. You can look at the ground around them, it didn't even vap it, it just broke it a lot.
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You do you if you think surviving an explosion can be ignored based on "lol probs got heat resistance"
Arkenis said:
That proves my point more? The attacks are within their tier, and barely harms them.
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RIGHT, so if the attacks don't harm them.... then it's within their tier? By what you yourself just said.
Arkenis said:
It was for the previous one calc. What is the formula for thermobaric explosions?
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Idk, that's why I'm waiting to see a calc which addresses that, if someone already has then send it, but so far I've just been seeing calcs using the standard explosion formula.
Arkenis said:
They think since its a thermobaric explosion the formula will make it higher. Is there a formula for thermobaric explosions?
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No one said anything about it being higher lol, jeez, my point is we should have a calc reflecting the nature of the explosion instead of using the default one given we now know the properties of it.
 
Rosa said:
You do you if you think surviving an explosion can be ignored based on "lol probs got heat resistance"

RIGHT, so if the attacks don't harm them.... then it's within their tier? By what you yourself just said.

Idk, that's why I'm waiting to see a calc which addresses that, if someone already has then send it, but so far I've just been seeing calcs using the standard explosion formula.

No one said anything about it being higher lol, jeez, my point is we should have a calc reflecting the nature of the explosion instead of using the default one given we now know the properties of it.
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The calcs currently being used aren't using basic explosion formulas, it's calcing the fire itself which ends up far higher than just using a basic explosion calc. If it was a basic explosion calc, fire arrow would be only be MCB.
 
Rosa said:
You do you if you think surviving an explosion can be ignored based on "lol probs got heat resistance"
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The damn thing is a massive ball of fire. I'm not ignoring anything, his durability will depend how far away he is from the center, but its still heat resistance overall.

Rosa said:
RIGHT, so if the attacks don't harm them.... then it's within their tier? By what you yourself just said.
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Within their tier doesn't mean it scales. Gojo doesn't scale to Red for example.

Rosa said:
Idk, that's why I'm waiting to see a calc which addresses that, if someone already has then send it, but so far I've just been seeing calcs using the standard explosion formula.
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Yeah I don't think there's some different formula for thermobaric explosions. It's still just a fireball at the center.
 
Mfers will defend their agenda and refuse to admit they’re wrong even if it means they need to tell lies about things they don’t know, like calcs and math.
 
Arkenis said:
Within their tier doesn't mean it scales. Gojo doesn't scale to Red for example.
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Idk what definition you use for this, but specified that when I say it scales I'm referring to things being in the same tier and even used the example of blue scaling to red
 
Rosa said:
Idk what definition you use for this, but specified that when I say it scales I'm referring to things being in the same tier and even used the example of blue scaling to red
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You're kinda confusing. You brought up Gojo scaling to Purple, but the scaling goes like this Purple > Red > Gojo and Red goes to Low 7-B. Gojo is only High 7-C so they aren't in the same tier. The reduced damage is why Gojo appears to scale but he realistically doesn't and would've gotten destroyed by Red or Purple like Sukuna did if it weren't his own ce.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Fire Arrow (Ultimate technique) > Cleave > Dismantle 🐸
People are just coping if they think Fire Arrow scales to physicals at this point.
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Purple > Fire Arrow > Red > Cleave > Dismantle > Blue > Physicals < Purple < Fire Arrow < Red < Cleave < Dismantle < Blue

Physicals just end up scaling back idk what to tell you. I mean they can just punch really hard.
 
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