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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Arkenis
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Nope normal feat for him. He felt bad for Sukuna's fire being unable to melt even blood, so he decided to die to make things dramatic for Yuji so Yuji can hit five more black flashes
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Eh, not really like that. Binding vows would only cause harm to Sukuna if he broke them. As of now he didn’t.
I see people saying that the downsides of the binding vows would catch Sukuna but does anyone know how it works in the first place?
He can make a thousand, and as long as he doesn’t break them, he’s fine. IIRC we know all of his vows and consequences now; the WCS now has to be used with chants and signs, Divine Flame has a vow to not be used on multiple targets etc etc.
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do you think there's a secret voice to remind him everything that he need not to do? or does he have to remember them manually
EldemadeDityjon
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What are the other series she translates? Nue's Exorcist?
EldemadeDityjon
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He only has 2-3 vows at best and he can't break them. Like WCS is just impossible with 2 hands. Fire arrow is fixed with single target outside the domain. Open barriers gives escape route.
He doesn't have any other vows which will give him life threatening risks as far as I remember.
Arkenis
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Sure but these ones are what actually allow him to further expand on the concepts he's using in the story. And he does have his editors for help if he needs any, should count as a "manga assistant" if need for any in regards to suggestion. Since he did get suggestions in the past from his previous editors.
She? Huh. Thought it was a guy tho
EldemadeDityjon
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You are rightShe? Huh. Thought it was a guy tho
my badThat series would have been one of my new gen favourite if it wasn't for chocking MC
Arkenis
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Tap into Kyokuto Necromancer, 3 chapters, got a cool vibe so far and the arts nice (I need more supporters)That series would have been one of my new gen favourite if it wasn't for chocking MC
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Wdym by "wdym."? U said latest chapter debunked Sukuna scaling to fire arrow, and I asked you why.
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Because it’s his ultimate attack that needs a lot of preparation to be even released?
Sukuna is not punching with the strength of the divine flame.
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the preparation is explicitly for the range of the blast, this is stated verbatim.
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The flames ignite from every piece of rubble, creating an explosion encompassing everything within the domain, yet Sukuna... is fine? I wonder.....
Arkenis
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That is heat resistance. And by the looks of it very basic heat resistance. Oh and this was calced, he got MCB durability for it before. OH and this is his own ce so he's less damaged by it.
Seems like Gege doesn't want them scaling to their ultimate attacks?
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Resisting an explosion is more than "very basic heat resistance", there's still the force of the blast, and it being his own CE isn't that great of an answer. Ryu got damaged by his granite blast, Gojo by his hollow purple, yet these attacks aren't several tiers above their other attacks given they can both be survived by the same opponent. Also, where's the calc for this getting it to MCB? There hasn't even been a calc of the blast yet which treats it as a thermobaric explosion instead of defaulting to the standard formula for explosions.
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If Sukuna scales to the Fire Arrow why he just didnt killed Itadori with a punch instead of risking himself by using a incomplete Domain
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Gojo stated that the reason why he was able to tank his own Hollow Purple better than Sukuna is because it was his own curse energy.
Same thing could apply to Sukuna and the fire arrow.
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1. You realise you can scale to something whilst it's still stronger than you to some degree? If red is 2x the potency of blue and red performs a galaxy level feat, yet blue only has building level showings, we clearly wouldn't reflect such a huge disparity on the profiles.
2. Furnace has many other valuable attributes, such as its nature as the decompression and supercompression of air being something you can't really defend against and also it's incredible range. For instance Sukuna scales to his own slashes, but a domain is still valuable to him when fighting opponents.
3. Sukuna did punch a chunk of Yuji's flesh off with a single blow right before activating his domain so...
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Arkenis
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It is basic heat resistance though. You can look at the ground around them, it didn't even vap it, it just broke it a lot.
That proves my point more? The attacks are within their tier, and barely harms them.
It was for the previous one calc. What is the formula for thermobaric explosions?
They think since its a thermobaric explosion the formula will make it higher. Is there a formula for thermobaric explosions?
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You need to wank better. I have seen 6-C versions of that feat. Wheres your motivation?
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You do you if you think surviving an explosion can be ignored based on "lol probs got heat resistance"
RIGHT, so if the attacks don't harm them.... then it's within their tier? By what you yourself just said.
Idk, that's why I'm waiting to see a calc which addresses that, if someone already has then send it, but so far I've just been seeing calcs using the standard explosion formula.
No one said anything about it being higher lol, jeez, my point is we should have a calc reflecting the nature of the explosion instead of using the default one given we now know the properties of it.
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ReaperAndBlues
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The calcs currently being used aren't using basic explosion formulas, it's calcing the fire itself which ends up far higher than just using a basic explosion calc. If it was a basic explosion calc, fire arrow would be only be MCB.
Arkenis
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The damn thing is a massive ball of fire. I'm not ignoring anything, his durability will depend how far away he is from the center, but its still heat resistance overall.
Within their tier doesn't mean it scales. Gojo doesn't scale to Red for example.
Yeah I don't think there's some different formula for thermobaric explosions. It's still just a fireball at the center.
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Idk what definition you use for this, but specified that when I say it scales I'm referring to things being in the same tier and even used the example of blue scaling to red
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What lie have I said?
Ped2018
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Yessir
Arkenis
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You're kinda confusing. You brought up Gojo scaling to Purple, but the scaling goes like this Purple > Red > Gojo and Red goes to Low 7-B. Gojo is only High 7-C so they aren't in the same tier. The reduced damage is why Gojo appears to scale but he realistically doesn't and would've gotten destroyed by Red or Purple like Sukuna did if it weren't his own ce.
