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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

EldemadeDityjon said:

“ABSOLUTE PERFECTION”…!

This is the kind of tweet that no one asked for, but I'm going to bring it up because there is something very interesting about Kashimo's observation, when evaluating Sukuna in his true form.

In the Manga Plus translation (the one on the right), you can see that the definition Kashimo arrived at was “Absolute Perfection”.

Which is relatively correct with the original, usually brought into English.

But the meaning of the original, 完全無欠 (Kanzen-muketsu), is further contrasted with the context delivered by the observation of Kashimo itself.

You see: “perfection” and “absolute” are intimate synonyms. Concepts that define something that has no room for improvement. It's the pinnacle. The state of something definitive.

完全無欠 (Kanzen-muketsu) is something that brings the meaning of something full. Complete. Perfect. And its second part, “無欠 (…muketsu)”, denotes the sense of impeccable. In other words, something that does not sin, that does not lack anything.

This is because Kashimo evaluated Sukuna's true body in relation to Jujutsu, that is:

- Four arms; perfect for conjuring his cursed technique, while two others were free for hand-to-hand combat;

— Two mouths; perfect for chanting your verbal conjuration, while you can breathe freely in a fierce fight;

— A larger body with more arms gives you an advantage in melee, and despite a huge body, none of this compromises your bodily functions.

In other words, this body, in the sense of Kanzen-muketsu is… “Impeccable Fullness”!
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JJK fans will either be writting essays for the different translations and naunces of a single word and finishing by dropping some ancient buddhist teaching or they are completely illiterate. There is no in-between
 
EldemadeDityjon said:

“ABSOLUTE PERFECTION”…!

This is the kind of tweet that no one asked for, but I'm going to bring it up because there is something very interesting about Kashimo's observation, when evaluating Sukuna in his true form.

In the Manga Plus translation (the one on the right), you can see that the definition Kashimo arrived at was “Absolute Perfection”.

Which is relatively correct with the original, usually brought into English.

But the meaning of the original, 完全無欠 (Kanzen-muketsu), is further contrasted with the context delivered by the observation of Kashimo itself.

You see: “perfection” and “absolute” are intimate synonyms. Concepts that define something that has no room for improvement. It's the pinnacle. The state of something definitive.

完全無欠 (Kanzen-muketsu) is something that brings the meaning of something full. Complete. Perfect. And its second part, “無欠 (…muketsu)”, denotes the sense of impeccable. In other words, something that does not sin, that does not lack anything.

This is because Kashimo evaluated Sukuna's true body in relation to Jujutsu, that is:

- Four arms; perfect for conjuring his cursed technique, while two others were free for hand-to-hand combat;

— Two mouths; perfect for chanting your verbal conjuration, while you can breathe freely in a fierce fight;

— A larger body with more arms gives you an advantage in melee, and despite a huge body, none of this compromises your bodily functions.

In other words, this body, in the sense of Kanzen-muketsu is… “Impeccable Fullness”!
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I thought we all knew this tho
Not the super deep focus on the meaning of the words but allat benefits Sukuna gets
 
Gege differentiates his drawings. That Cubes of Slashes on Kashimo are definitely WCS. I don't see him drawing normal Dismantle like that.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Supported by Uraume as well (might as well be Gege too)
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Uraume who is irrelevant because she doesn't know a guy has soul punching that nerfs Sukuna? Literally she's just going off of by her GPS senses like Hakari is doing without any awareness of his injuries and the like.
Yall should look into the reason as to why it says Sukuna was desperate to use WS.
Or why it says Sukuna was backed into a corner and had to use DE.
he's not holding back 🗿
 
Normal Dismantle
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Signs & Chants Amped Dismantle
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WS
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Anyone can see the difference between them. I know people hate Kashimo but can we stop Downplaying WS because of that.
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TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Ngl might just be WS. Also there were no chants. Doubt he'd need signs too for this.
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DA and SD can't null WS and If you zoom the image you can see Sukuna making hand signs while he fired Dismantle against Higuruma.
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
That might have been amped too.
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That was when he was using HWB. So no extra signs and Chants to amp it. Also we see Yuji and Meguna using lines for normal dismantle like that
 
Giannysmag said:
It is insane to me that one of the biggest manga on the planet currently doesn't have a decent translation. TCB is the closest we've got to an accurate translation of the whole series but even they arent perfect and they definitely aren't official.

Its even more of a shame because Werries translation have also ruined the physical copies of the series
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TCB also messed up from recent 2 chapters. They are giving out of context stuff.
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Ngl might just be WS. Also there were no chants. Doubt he'd need signs too for this.
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That entire barrage hit Higu and Kusakabe. If it were a WCS, that would have undoubtedly killed them.

And I doubt the barrage of slashes against Kashimo was a WCS. He had used it literally right before, and we don't even see him setting it up. Moreover, every WCS was shown to be a single slash
 
Giannysmag said:
It is insane to me that one of the biggest manga on the planet currently doesn't have a decent translation. TCB is the closest we've got to an accurate translation of the whole series but even they arent perfect and they definitely aren't official.

Its even more of a shame because Werries translation have also ruined the physical copies of the series
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EldemadeDityjon said:
TCB also messed up from recent 2 chapters. They are giving out of context stuff.
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The goat Lightning could never
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
DA and SD can't null WS and If you zoom the image you can see Sukuna making hand signs while he fired Dismantle against Higuruma.
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No, but it can weaken it. Which might allow them to get away from being turned half like gojo.
EldemadeDityjon said:
That was when he was using HWB. So no extra signs and Chants to amp it.
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I'm saying more so that it is a far more serious dismantle usage. It is a heavy reference to the Anime one in Shibuya where Sukuna locks in with that dismantle.
1:06
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
In chapter 246, Kusakabe's internal dialogue suggests that no amount of power null in JJK can stop the WCS. Maybe it can "weaken" it, but it's too all-encompassing
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In chapter 246 Kusakabe does not suggest that. For them at their output sure. But if your output is really good then you're surviving it, lol. This is basic logic in jjk.
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
The goat Lightning could never
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Weirdest thing, Lightning translated 236.

Its like Lightning knew John was gonna **** it up, and just had to step in.

I know Lightning trans like two other series but she really should be on JJK more.

There's no way its just basic incompetence on SJ's part either, Gege must've ****** with a higher up so they sent their worst translator+google trans to destroy the manga.
 
Arkenis said:
Weirdest thing, Lightning translated 236.

Its like Lightning knew John was gonna **** it up, and just had to step in.

I know Lightning trans like two other series but she really should be on JJK more.

There's no way its just basic incompetence on SJ's part either, Gege must've ****** with a higher up so they sent their worst translator+google trans to destroy the manga.
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Werry wasn't available (thank god)
 
Arkenis said:
If only Gege had the braincells to think about putting this interpretation in the manga for this moment. "he was sick" "he didn't have enough time" get assistants ffs
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he is already getting help tbh. Ksshimo one. Higuruma one. Kenjaku & US one. Gojo limitless one volume 14-15. Gojo limitless part 2 Jump Giga + JJK math on other stuff like Domain expansion, like with the vector stuff etc.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Has anyone calced the new Fire Arrow feat.

Also would Hollow Purple still scale above that or nah.
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I calced it yesterday, the thing is only 7-C, actually lower than the other Shibuya fire arrow calc. Mostly cause like 99% of that calc's yield came from the vaporized layer of the Earth meanwhile we don't have any indication of that here.
 
It looks like the Earth wasn't even vaporized with all the chunks of rock around.

Also crazy feat for Choso's blood considering they were like right at the epicenter
 
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