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Without Gojo and Sukuna he would have been the King of Curses of the modern era
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Giannysmag
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Honestly that's debatable, anime twitter is a cesspool to begin with and subreddits like jujutsufolk are only really there for the memes. At least here everyone has so wildly different opinions of the series that it doesn't feel like an echochamber
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Not debatable at all. In reddit you have a lot of different JJK related subreddits each for different discussions about JJK, Twitter is a social network with a number of niches. VSBW, as the name suggests, it's a vs debating wiki.
I mean it's cool to debate but acting like the vs debating part isn't the most relevant part of what we do is plain wrong
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He's literally not stated to be above 3F level. In all instances, one is Kenjaku implying that he's being heavily generous. The other is Mahito actually saying that what makes him better is just CE capacity as the raws say, which is also what Gojo in context is alluding too as well. Infact the Mahito instance literally has Mahito say he's stronger than Jogo.
It is vital sure, but you're trying to act like discussions are barely relevant when they do actually give a purpose for one to actually debate and argue about a topic and prove who's right or wrong which is literally what yall do through crt.
Like seriously. In CRT's, you discuss and try to prove yourself right on a topic. Discussions here are also the literal same in that regard, where you try to be the right person at the end
Yeah it does matter heavily since you can beforehand settle and discuss extensively about something before trying to get certain things accepted ""officially"" through a CRT.
Since you care so much about arguments only mattering in a crt then here you go
15 Fingers Sukuna Output
Ryu never acknowledges the wound, begins charging the next attack, and running towards Sukuna. I really don’t think it was significant at all.
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And debating is literally what I do here both on discussion and crt.
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Tbf if Jogo didn't have the biggest anti-feats in the series (would be harmed by GWE Todo's punches and be relative in speed to him, would be blitzed by Naobito, likely being inferior to the Shibuya Yuji victim of Mahito, etc.,) I'd be inclined to agree and say Jogo is simply top 2 of the modern era behind Gojo. But as it stands, his anti-feats are too prominent and all 3 of those scenes have consistent interpretations which don't relate it to raw power / speed (with Jogo himself implying his own power was exaggerated when he compares himself to Sukuna later on). I do wish Gege portrayed the disaster curses with more power.
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NOOOOOOOOO
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I'm ignoring because I don't ******* care what is decided, I just want it to be decided. And that thread has nothing to do with any Sukuna that isn't the 15 fingers one.
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Still a crt where you disagreed with my arguments. So I don't really care.
It's also a crt that widely affects literally 99% of the verse too in where and which they would scale to and what not.
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Isnt the statement itself is so incredibly vauge? yes the reducement happens but we do not know how much
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Vague in a mathematical/statistical sense yes.
We see Gojo is barely harmed, while Sukuna lost a hand, and can barely stand, and likely was protected by Mahoraga or did a vow similar to Hakari, or minimized the damaged with ce.
And same with the shadows, we don't know the exact amp, but its clearly a tier superior to Megumi.
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I disagreed with the way you wanted to make 15F Sukuna's output below 10%, not with anything related to any other version of him.
It doesn't. The only thing it will change is that Sukuna will upscale from his MCB calc. Nothing else changes.
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Not like he hasn’t seen it before though.
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Spark+trace ce+Gege+Binding Vows, Todo's cooked.
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I mean, that would make sense though. A sudden surge of cursed energy in both targets, no matter how minute would probably be required if you had to go about some logical way of explaining how exactly the technique works.
Why does Yuta having Todo for the assist in jumping Kenjaku make him look bad?
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Yuta did still outpace Kenjaku, so he's at least on a similar level of speed
Also, on the topic of finger scaling, if Jogo is 8-9F level, then Yuta is sure as shit not sub 9F level
Also, on the topic of finger scaling, if Jogo is 8-9F level, then Yuta is sure as shit not sub 9F level
Arkenis
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Kenjaku was generous with that. He's probably just 6f, the heavy hitters are probably 8-9 fingers.
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That's too low. 7F sounds right if you really take issue with 8-9F. And even then, that makes it sounds like 8F is about where he's at
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It makes a fuckton of sense but this explanation being revealed NOW is suspicious.
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Idk. Going by feats, Jogo and Hanami are relative in physicals to Yuji and Todo, I don't see either being that high in finger level. And if you think finger level was meant to refer to curse energy amount then maybe I can see that but then its less about scaling.
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Not out of character for Greg
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That's by statements, and statements also say that Kenjaku would have trouble capturing Jogo
Really, the problem is his lack of feats that aren't him getting bitched by Gojo and Sukuna
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No it wouldn't be. The spark of cursed energy was established nearly a year ago, about 20 chapters ago.
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No that isn't what's said. Its that against Mahito and Jogo he'd have trouble. This is likely due to certain conditions needing to be met or fighting two powerful curses with potentially one shot abilities and the fact both are able to evolve in the middle of battle.
I mean it isn't like he has good feats otherwise.
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What are you even talking about
Arkenis
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Was a heavily weakened Kenjaku anyway. People just need to reread this arc, the views are just getting less insightful
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So he'd have trouble against Jogo. Got it
Seriously, the last point only provably applies to Mahito, and even his feats aren't at Kenjaku's level
That's what I'm saying. He is hyped up for getting his shit kicked in by them
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Arkenis
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You may be downplaying Jogo and Mahito. Mahito spamming various transfigured humans, soul haxxing any curses Kenjaku throws, Jogo placing numerous volcanos, his speed as well, both of them running up on Kenjaku is simply a tight spot, they probably would do better than Yuki and Lhoso.
Nah it says he was being damaged by the simulations from Takaba.
Yuta pulled up on a weakened Kenjaku, with less curses likely zero of them being special grade, and a distracted Kenjaku.
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I think Jogo is overrated as hell. Sure, he got ****** up by fighting Gojo and Sukuna but I don’t know how it proves he’s strong.
His other feats are one taping weakened Naobito, Maki and Nanami.
He gets cooked by the 4 Special Grade Sorcerers, get cooked by Higuruma (Domain + sword gg). Toji/Maki absolutely demolishes his ass, so does CT Kashimo, Yorozu and Kenjaku. Current Yuji might defeat him as well, same for Uraume.
His other feats are one taping weakened Naobito, Maki and Nanami.
He gets cooked by the 4 Special Grade Sorcerers, get cooked by Higuruma (Domain + sword gg). Toji/Maki absolutely demolishes his ass, so does CT Kashimo, Yorozu and Kenjaku. Current Yuji might defeat him as well, same for Uraume.
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Jogo is stuck in a middle ground of having no notable feats while also having varying statements that either shoot him down or prop him up
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Yuji is still comparable to him, big dawg. Kenjaku has scaling SIGNIFICANTLY away from that to the point that Shinjuku Yuta resorted to sneaking him just to be safe
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Anime only, even Panda and Kusakabe dodged this.Yeah mhm
