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Nobody is really arguing here. You don't have to worry about answeringAlso guys you have to realize I am not going to entertain every JJK fan and reply to every single one of you.
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Nobody is really arguing here. You don't have to worry about answeringAlso guys you have to realize I am not going to entertain every JJK fan and reply to every single one of you.
Above subsonic is Speed of SoundThis doesn't make any sense and I believe you know it, if he reached Sonic speed or exceeded it then why did she says that he exceeded subsonic speed? Why didn't Gege point out that he was moving and supersonic speeds? I think the answer is that he probably wasn't and sub-sonic was the closest speed he was moving at.
That just means it’s faster at closer rangeYuji himself stated that he can't dodge Piercing Blood without some distance and trajectory calculation.
Although preferably don’t make it soon I got exams coming upAbove subsonic is Speed of Sound
The statement is weird not wrong but weird
Why isn’t the statement just
Reached the speed of Sound
Even then this still puts Naoya above Mach 1 near the end which is still at least slightly consistent with calcs
(Anyway I’m pretty sure Naoya perception blitzing Choso and Yuji is Supersonic minimum anyway)
That just means it’s faster at closer range
That is all.
Plus Feats>Statements, him moving more than piercing blood after it slowed down from travel is pretty objective it’s right there on panel.
Although I’m not arguing tho I’m done. I can wait for a revision thread discussing speed.
Because this needs to be settled
Didn’t we agree the bullet catch is an outlier tho?
Which one is that?I at least did not agree. There is another possible MHS feat
I mean that ones kinda weird and maybe inconsistent?Jujutsu Kaisen - Kento avoids Mahito at point-blank range
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Honestly I think we should just call it a rubber bullet and call it a dayThe bullet Maki caught is very plausibly a subsonic rubber bullet.
Imo, the only strong counter argument is the Piercing Blood dodge
Nope we gotta have evaluated calcs so we gotta waitIs it possible for no one to create a thread before the calculations are evaluated?
If you mean this, I only found this passage regarding the speed of such bullets:There is literally a link to the speed of the bullet
Less-lethal bullets are larger and less aerodynamic. Loaded with less gunpowder, they fire at roughly ⅓ the speed of a normal bullet, meant to hit the target slow but hard. |
I mean after doing some quick googling myself the model you point to I see Muzzle Velocties of 350-380m/s but also saw 440m/sThis link crashes my computer. But it is not this part, this is about normal rubber bullets, in Mai's case it is different, she uses a gun not specified for rubber bullets
So Mach 89With 60m/s the result is 30830.6802788m/s
Actually Yuji dodging piercing blood yields supersonic+ assuming it slowed to exactly the Speed of Sound since it’s Initially SupersonicBy the way, for Choso's Piercing Blood, Yuji is too slow to dodge it normally and he needs to aim dodge, as he stated that his chance of dodging it is 50/50 since he needs to guess where to dodge.
And it is very easy and straight-forward to calculate the Piercing Blood dodging feat at Subsonic+.
I edited the calculation
Honestly, I disagree with using the Piercing Blood to calculate the speed of the characters. Piercing Blood is the fastest thing among the protagonists, it makes no sense to scale. We don't even have a specific number for the attack, just "Exceeded the speed of sound".
This is 100% not in Jujutsu alone but you're gonna see it more here because JJK is a lower powered verse unlike say BC, Fire Force or BleachOh Jesus Christ. Why do people want to use this stupid idea only in Jujutsu?
Not really arguing for subsonic Maki or anything but moving fte isn't a product of pure speedLMAO Do you at least know how far Naoya was from the subsonic baseline?
Random clan warriors are faster than the eye
Maki with a casual movement is much faster than the perception of one of the clan's strongest sorcerers
Naoya is much faster than Maki
They were not close to Subsonic. And again, there are 4 calculations above the speed of sound, what you are arguing is stupid and dishonest
Oof sameAlthough preferably don’t make it soon I got exams coming up
Lol
what is it thenNot really arguing for subsonic Maki or anything but moving fte isn't a product of pure speed
Calm the heck down I'm just making a point that your reasoning there was wrongHoly shit man, don't come back with this stupid subject
To go fte to someone it depends on the size of the object in motion, angle to the observer and distance between them.what is it then
how fast would a 5'9 male or 6'2 male have to move to be fte from straight forward?To go fte to someone it depends on the size of the object in motion, angle to the observer and distance between them.
Can't say. It's not exactly something you could just look up and find an answer cause scientists aren't testing stuff like that.how fast would a 5'9 male or 6'2 male have to move to be fte from straight forward?
so you're saying it's useless to use?Can't say. It's not exactly something you could just look up and find an answer cause scientists aren't testing stuff like that.
You'd need to know exactly how to calculate that stuff so for now yeah. Someone on the calc group might know how to do it.so you're saying it's useless to use?
I agree with the idea Piercing Blood is a couple MachNaoya was confident he can dodge Piercing Blood, even when he is slowed down by blood. So it is not like Piercing Blood is many times faster in magnitude than sound.
I think just going by the wording would be enough to assume it's at least supersonic tbh. Also I remember someone bringing up that the statement can be interpreted as it exceeds the speed of sound meaning it's above any speed of sound, but that's probably not consistentI agree with the idea Piercing Blood is a couple Mach
It is odd for it to be an order of magnitude above sound for example although that’s not an argument in of its self like what happened to the last JJK speed downgrade thread
Although his speed vs Choso in the case of Naoya puts him above sound
Characters don't do that in jjk but I understand wymHave any of you guys seen Kuroko no Basket? Kuroko can move FTE but he mainly uses misdirection to do so. Basically a magicians trick.
It’s kinda too interpretation basedI think just going by the wording would be enough to assume it's at least supersonic tbh. Also I remember someone bringing up that the statement can be interpreted as it exceeds the speed of sound meaning it's above any speed of sound, but that's probably not consistent
The link doesn’t work for me
Those links don't work
Yes people don’t take this into account when talking about piecing bloodFrankly I'm fine with Supersonic+ Yuji. Piercing Blood is rather small so he could have trouble because his eyes have trouble tracking it not it being 100% faster than him.