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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

I don't know where relative comes from. Is this trans wrong or are you referring to something else?
I don't think it's speed alone. Gojo was beating down Miguel to pulp still we don't see an injuries from that guy.
Gojo also talks about physicals Overall
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I don't think it's speed alone. Gojo was beating down Miguel to pulp still we don't see an injuries from that guy.
Gojo also talks about physicals Overall
Yeah I don't think its about speed at all. When gojo says marathon he's talking about lasting longer while Miguel would have more spirit in the fight, likely just perform better.
 
Yeah I don't think its about speed at all. When gojo says marathon he's talking about lasting longer while Miguel would have more spirit in the fight, likely just perform better.
Rare TCB flub apparently

Streets said John Werry was for once right

Line movement and point movement are actual concepts
 
Jjk Gojo is probably stronger than jjk0 because at that time Rika was the Sukuna of jjk

When Gege came up with Sukuna, he made Gojo stronger
 
Ehhhhhhhhh, her best punching feat is punching through Kenjaku's arms and not even damaging his head much and Gojo is leagues above Kenny in terms of reinfocment. But considering there isn't really a limit to the amount of mass she can add then theoretically she probably could
he simply just resists, 😭 allat punching he'll eat, like Kenny did. that's also how JJK powers work btw when interacting with sorcerers with Strong Reinforcement (Strong Cleave reference)
 
Yeah, idk if I would feel someone punching through my head, basically. Gojo might be dead before he’s touched

Yuki is the peak of the JJK verse in AP,
excluding true sphere, but she does have the peak energy exertion
no bro he is simply resisting that and feeling nothing but a tickle. u have no idea of the gap between the real god tiers (Sukuna and Gojo) vs the rest of the verse.
Yeah with some key points
  • Geto was around 30% sure he could defeat Jujutsu high knowing Gojo was with them
  • Gojo has to risk his life to take down JJK0 Rika
  • Geto also states something about his chances becoming 99% if he had Rika to take our jujutsu high if I'm correct.
It's canon that Geto and Kenjaku underestimates Gojo's power . Even Kenjaku did. See Gojo being unsealed chapter.
 
I mean what Gojo said might even apply to current Gojo

When his CT was off inside the domain
He was dodging Sukuna's attacks and blocking them (linear movement)

But he wasn't really that effective in attacking (point movement)
Also Ino said Sukuna was drowning Gojo with attacks iirc

Also I don't remember Gojo dealing damage to Sukuna without his CT, when Sukuna used DA he could block Gojo's punches easily which means his normal attacking force in punching isn't really that great
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On the other hand Sukuna's punch sent Gojo flying
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So you can easily say Sukuna's punching force/attacks are > Gojo
Miguel is also better than Gojo in this
Gojo stands at top in linear movement (defending and parrying)
 
no bro he is simply resisting that and feeling nothing but a tickle. u have no idea of the gap between the real god tiers (Sukuna and Gojo) vs the rest of the verse.
It’s not an AP gap like that, buddy

It's canon that Geto and Kenjaku underestimates Gojo's power . Even Kenjaku did. See Gojo being unsealed chapter.
Geto definitely doesn’t know shit. How the **** was he gonna beat Gojo if Gojo had a domain like that, when he didn’t
 
I find it weird that Miguel can stall a 100% Gojo but was afraid of taking on a weakened Sukuna.
Simply because he isn't at Gojo's level physically speaking.

Not really TCB translation has different word but same meaning.
tcb was wrong. Ima hit yall up with the translations

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There is no stated gap though. Just calcs and scaling for the most part.
? I'm not looking at visuals here. (Calcs)
I'm looking at the established narrative that has Gojo beyond SG level, alongside Sukuna. Them being placed by the others on another level. And that one "narrator" calling gojo on a different level amongst SG.
Then there's the fact that a massively nerfed af Gojo and Sukuna being easily above the others just by their own admission and the like 😭 Finger levels also play a role here.
 
So you can easily say Sukuna's punching force/attacks are > Gojo
????? That was a gojo and Sukuna who are nerfed. Gojo took a heavier nerf tho. (There's a obvious difference even in chapter 230) His brain damage is directly situated at the CT part, unlike Sukuna's. No way you're arguing he's > Gojo in punches against a off guard Gojo even. (in that scene)
 
Yuki is the peak of the JJK verse in AP,
excluding true sphere, but she does have the peak energy exertion
What suggests this?

Yuta and Hakari can't even withstand a suppressed punch from Gojo, with Uraume (who's comparable to them stat wise) suffering massive internal damage she can't even RCT from via a random punch from a fatigued Gojo. Yuta and Hakari are also the same people who are talked of as relative to Yuki, suggesting that even whilst she may have an edge in AP it's not going to be a one-shot level gap (otherwise they wouldn't even be in the same conversation as her).
 
Speaking about this, the brain damaged parts or whatever is just stupid
Gojo says the damage Sukuna took was on the area responsible for barrier techniques, which made using domain not possible, that doesn't explain how Sukuna could use HWB which is a barrier technique (It might also indicate that even his HWB was nerfed, but still had enough output to match Yuta's domain output which is a big L for Yuta's side lmfao)
 
????? That was a gojo and Sukuna who are nerfed. Gojo took a heavier nerf tho. (There's a obvious difference even in chapter 230) His brain damage is directly situated at the CT part, unlike Sukuna's. No way you're arguing he's > Gojo in punches against a off guard Gojo even. (in that scene)
I mean is it really like that
Gojo mightve suffered more because his CE is lower than Sukuna's which made Sukuna endure that damage better than Gojo who fell on his knees

Also I was just making a theory there to explain Miguel's statement
 
? I'm not looking at visuals here. (Calcs)
I'm looking at the established narrative that has Gojo beyond SG level, alongside Sukuna. Them being placed by the others on another level. And that one "narrator" calling gojo on a different level amongst SG.
Then there's the fact that a massively nerfed af Gojo and Sukuna being easily above the others just by their own admission and the like 😭 Finger levels also play a role here.
Yeah all of that is about jujutsu sorcery, it isn't just about ce reinforcement strength is the point. We can all agree Sukuna and Gojo are better overall but the story makes it clear Gojo's strongest status comes from his ct, Sukuna's strongest status comes from his capabilities as a sorcerer is all. And we see this through all the praise they get for their knowledge and cursed technique skill.
 
the story makes it clear Gojo's strongest status comes from his ct
no? Every time Gojo is in a major conflict his CT is being countered in some way where he has to rely on his other abilities, in which we're always told by the characters that Gojo isn't just a man with a good CT but also just a powerhouse in almost every other way.
 
Even this, I mean that it's his greatest weapon

But don't forget that theres someone with the six eyes and limitless was killed by Mahoraga.
 
Yuta and Hakari can't even withstand a suppressed punch from Gojo,
because blue uses hax to make every strike a critical hit

with Uraume (who's comparable to them stat wise) suffering massive internal damage she can't even RCT from via a random punch from a fatigued Gojo
what I said before

Yuta and Hakari are also the same people who are talked of as relative to Yuki
As sorcerers, not AP

suggesting that even whilst she may have an edge in AP it's not going to be a one-shot level gap (otherwise they wouldn't even be in the same conversation as her).
Not necessarily. That's her as a sorcerer being in the same level as Yuta, but her AP would punch through Gojo's skull.

Also all of Gojo and Sukuna's feats suggest they're tier 7, while Yuki has 5-A scaling
 
no? Every time Gojo is in a major conflict his CT is being countered in some way where he has to rely on his other abilities, in which we're always told by the characters that Gojo isn't just a man with a good CT but also just a powerhouse in almost every other way.
This proves my point more. Every time he's in a fight, it's always about his ct, when he's fighting Jogo, Jogo points out he's not just using ce infused attacks, Blue's amping him. The beginning of the manga has Sukuna saying similar as well, Blue aids Gojo in speed and power tremendously. After Gojo trained, Getou deemed him the strongest, this wasn't based on ce reinforcement, its all ct. I'm already saying I agree Gojo is strong, but that is not what makes him the strongest.
 
because blue uses hax to make every strike a critical hit
AKA amping it's AP, which makes it still relevant to a discussion about AP. Even then, Gojo is shown to still be keeping up with Sukuna physically without blue, so the difference isn't that large.
Not necessarily. That's her as a sorcerer being in the same level as Yuta, but her AP would punch through Gojo's skull.
How is she on the same level as Yuta if she'd just casually punch through Yuta's body like it's nothing, Rika too? What feats does she have to even suggest this?
 
AKA amping it's AP
Amping its lethality by manipulating space to land a critical hit. The actual energy used and force is less

AP. Even then, Gojo is shown to still be keeping up with Sukuna physically without blue, so the difference isn't that large.
When does he physically keep up with Sukuna without blue?

How is she on the same level as Yuta if she'd just casually punch through Yuta's body like it's nothing, Rika too? What feats does she have to even suggest this?
Because Yuta would avoid this happening.

It's why as sorcerers, this scaling chain exists:

Kenjaku >>> Yuta >~ Yuki

When Yuki can punch through Kenjaku and use the second highest AP in the verse. She'd punch through Gojo if he didn't use the limitless to avoid such thing


Gojo is the strongest because of the six eyes not because of his CT
ACTUALLY it's stated in the fanbook that the six eyes make the limitless the strongest cursed technique
 
This proves my point more. Every time he's in a fight, it's always about his ct, when he's fighting Jogo, Jogo points out he's not just using ce infused attacks, Blue's amping him. The beginning of the manga has Sukuna saying similar as well, Blue aids Gojo in speed and power tremendously. After Gojo trained, Getou deemed him the strongest, this wasn't based on ce reinforcement, its all ct. I'm already saying I agree Gojo is strong, but that is not what makes him the strongest.
It's kinda the whole package that makes him the strongest

If he's just a random limitless six eyes user he wouldn't have been the strongest

He said 10 shadows rival the limitless, Mahoraga killed a limitless six eyes user

Yet he defeated the strongest 10S user of all times (Meguna)
 
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