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I was thinking more narratively. Besides the risking life the rest is scaling.
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Makes sense but what proves this?
EldemadeDityjon
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Well Gojo saying Miguel is relative to him with CE reinforcements does narratively implies Current Gojo is stronger.
Like Miguel didn't wanted to smoke Sukuna until he was nerfed around Yuta's level and Miguel performance is nowhere near current Gojo's level.
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The plan was for him to get his ass beat by Gojo for 12 minutes
Geto really had faith icl
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I don't know where relative comes from. Is this trans wrong or are you referring to something else?
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Against Sukuna I mean.
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Well then Yuta had too much faith in this man lmao
He literally just styled on Sukuna and decided he wants to peace out
Guacamolefletcher
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If Rika was really ~ Gojo and Geto was ~ Gojo, then Kempnjaku could’ve shat on Gojo in the first week of having Geto’s body
Gojo telling the higher ups that what he’d put on the line would be his own life instead of sending other sorcerers to deal with Rika doesn’t mean Rika could beat Gojo in a fight.
also we know the lore about Jjk0 Gojo being the strongest still applies through guides.
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Dude appeared, called Gojo a racist, made Gojo say he's equal to Miguel w/o his CT, beat Sukuna for a few seconds and got his ass out lol he's a chad
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I'm just asking what stated he was just praising them? All you're really talking about is scaling.
Guacamolefletcher
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No but that’s what he’s doing in context
EldemadeDityjon
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I don't think it's speed alone. Gojo was beating down Miguel to pulp still we don't see an injuries from that guy.
Gojo also talks about physicals Overall
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Yeah what tells us that through the story? Like where's it implied he's "glazing to appease the higher ups at the moment".
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You know what that means.
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Yeah I don't think its about speed at all. When gojo says marathon he's talking about lasting longer while Miguel would have more spirit in the fight, likely just perform better.
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Rare TCB flub apparently
Streets said John Werry was for once right
Line movement and point movement are actual concepts
EldemadeDityjon
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Not really TCB translation has different word but same meaning.
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I took a look for myself
John Werry's translations are too literal
"Supreme Martial Solution" lmao
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TCB received a lot of complaints for losing the literal, on point aspect of their translations. They adapt too much.
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"Funeral for the living" got lost in translation
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Tcb translation means Miguel will win initially but Gojo will beat him in the end
Other translations don't indicate this meaning afaik, they say Gojo is better in defense and Miguel is better in attacking
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he simply just resists,
allat punching he'll eat, like Kenny did. that's also how JJK powers work btw when interacting with sorcerers with Strong Reinforcement (Strong Cleave reference)
Guacamolefletcher
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Yeah, retroactively too
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no bro he is simply resisting that and feeling nothing but a tickle. u have no idea of the gap between the real god tiers (Sukuna and Gojo) vs the rest of the verse.
It's canon that Geto and Kenjaku underestimates Gojo's power . Even Kenjaku did. See Gojo being unsealed chapter.
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I mean what Gojo said might even apply to current Gojo
When his CT was off inside the domain
He was dodging Sukuna's attacks and blocking them (linear movement)
But he wasn't really that effective in attacking (point movement)
Also Ino said Sukuna was drowning Gojo with attacks iirc
Also I don't remember Gojo dealing damage to Sukuna without his CT, when Sukuna used DA he could block Gojo's punches easily which means his normal attacking force in punching isn't really that great
On the other hand Sukuna's punch sent Gojo flying
So you can easily say Sukuna's punching force/attacks are > Gojo
Miguel is also better than Gojo in this
Gojo stands at top in linear movement (defending and parrying)
When his CT was off inside the domain
He was dodging Sukuna's attacks and blocking them (linear movement)
But he wasn't really that effective in attacking (point movement)
Also Ino said Sukuna was drowning Gojo with attacks iirc
Also I don't remember Gojo dealing damage to Sukuna without his CT, when Sukuna used DA he could block Gojo's punches easily which means his normal attacking force in punching isn't really that great
On the other hand Sukuna's punch sent Gojo flying
So you can easily say Sukuna's punching force/attacks are > Gojo
Miguel is also better than Gojo in this
Gojo stands at top in linear movement (defending and parrying)
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There is no stated gap though. Just calcs and scaling for the most part.
Guacamolefletcher
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It’s not an AP gap like that, buddy
Geto definitely doesn’t know shit. How the **** was he gonna beat Gojo if Gojo had a domain like that, when he didn’t
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Yuta and Hakari said they can't even take one punch from a serious Gojo
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Not a stated gap. I'm just saying there's no real gap we can use to measure them in the story, just scaling and statements.
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When you say gap you mean multipliers or what?
Because I see that as a huge gap between them and Gojo
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Simply because he isn't at Gojo's level physically speaking.
tcb was wrong. Ima hit yall up with the translations
(read this post and scroll down to read more in it)
? I'm not looking at visuals here. (Calcs)
I'm looking at the established narrative that has Gojo beyond SG level, alongside Sukuna. Them being placed by the others on another level. And that one "narrator" calling gojo on a different level amongst SG.
Then there's the fact that a massively nerfed af Gojo and Sukuna being easily above the others just by their own admission and the like
Finger levels also play a role here.
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????? That was a gojo and Sukuna who are nerfed. Gojo took a heavier nerf tho. (There's a obvious difference even in chapter 230) His brain damage is directly situated at the CT part, unlike Sukuna's. No way you're arguing he's > Gojo in punches against a off guard Gojo even. (in that scene)
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What suggests this?
Yuta and Hakari can't even withstand a suppressed punch from Gojo, with Uraume (who's comparable to them stat wise) suffering massive internal damage she can't even RCT from via a random punch from a fatigued Gojo. Yuta and Hakari are also the same people who are talked of as relative to Yuki, suggesting that even whilst she may have an edge in AP it's not going to be a one-shot level gap (otherwise they wouldn't even be in the same conversation as her).
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Speaking about this, the brain damaged parts or whatever is just stupid
Gojo says the damage Sukuna took was on the area responsible for barrier techniques, which made using domain not possible, that doesn't explain how Sukuna could use HWB which is a barrier technique (It might also indicate that even his HWB was nerfed, but still had enough output to match Yuta's domain output which is a big L for Yuta's side lmfao)
Gojo says the damage Sukuna took was on the area responsible for barrier techniques, which made using domain not possible, that doesn't explain how Sukuna could use HWB which is a barrier technique (It might also indicate that even his HWB was nerfed, but still had enough output to match Yuta's domain output which is a big L for Yuta's side lmfao)
