Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Guacamolefletcher]

Probably still small town level.

From what though

 

[Sir_sun_man]

That isn't what Gege made canon in the verse. So sure in reality maybe? Though I don't think that's true at all, at just 2cm the mass of Earth turns into a bh, a fist is bigger and a mountain weighs less.

a black hole is not a neutron star there is a BIG differene, a neutron star is just a bunch of compressed weight that basically turns to plasma.
A black hole is a literal singularity and a hole in the fabric of existence through sheer density, not even comperable really.

Now as to canon, Like she did the black hole thing, she could probably turn into a neutron star (since it should be reletively easier honestly) and that would kill gojo although not by punching.

It'd go sorta like this:

Yuki: hey gojo check this out

POP

Gojo: oh...

 

[Giannysmag]

From what though

Iirc Ryu's Granite Blast

 

[Sir_sun_man]

From what though

Ryu

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Iirc Ryu's Granite Blast

god damn it

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Iirc Ryu's Granite Blast

IMO Ryu should honestly be "varies with Granite Blast" though, since he can either fire Granite blasts that only scratch Yuta's hand to Granite blasts which overpower Yuta when rsurpassing the limits of his cursed energy

 

[Arkenis]

From what though

Ryu granite calc. Check the pages.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Nah

sir the lasix procedure requires you to stand still

 

[Arkenis]

IMO Ryu should honestly be "varies with Granite Blast" though, since he can either fire Granite blasts that only scratch Yuta's hand to Granite blasts which overpower Yuta when rsurpassing the limits of his cursed energy

This wouldn't make sense to his output theme though.

 

[Giannysmag]

IMO Ryu should honestly be "varies with Granite Blast" though, since he can either fire Granite blasts that only scratch Yuta's hand to Granite blasts which overpower Yuta when rsurpassing the limits of his cursed energy

Well Yuta tanked the Low 7-C GB so he scales to that either way

 

[Arkenis]

a black hole is not a neutron star there is a BIG differene, a neutron star is just a bunch of compressed weight that basically turns to plasma.
A black hole is a literal singularity and a hole in the fabric of existence through sheer density, not even comperable really.

Now as to canon, Like she did the black hole thing, she could probably turn into a neutron star (since it should be reletively easier honestly) and that would kill gojo although not by punching.

It'd go sorta like this:

Yuki: hey gojo check this out

POP

Gojo: oh...

Bruh what are you talking about. Its as simple as the manga says. She made a black hole just about the size of her torso or more, iirc it was several times the mass of Earth, prior to that it wouldn't be neutron star or a bh, it'd be contained within her body without a problem and she'd rock him.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Bruh what are you talking about. Its as simple as the manga says. She made a black hole just about the size of her torso or more, iirc it was several times the mass of Earth, prior to that it wouldn't be neutron star or a bh, it'd be contained within her body without a problem and she'd rock him.

I don't think that's the case, its flat out stated that she does have a limit prior to her mass becoming so large it starts to effect her, nothing says she can't push past that limit to form something far more impressive than a neutron star.

basically I am saying she simply pushed past the neutron star stage of compression straight to black hole.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Well Yuta tanked the Low 7-C GB so he scales to that either way

wouldn't that mean he only tanked like a part of it though?

This wouldn't make sense to his output theme though.

It does because he's not always outputting his full power, which is why he later clashes with an eye-opened Rika

In JJK0, Rika undergoing that form gave her a one-shot level amp

 

[Sir_sun_man]

In JJK0, Rika undergoing that form gave her a one-shot level amp

I mean not the same thing.

One was achived through a death binding vow, the other one was just her gettting a wee bit mad.

plus different rika.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

I mean not the same thing.

One was achived through a death binding vow, the other one was just her gettting a wee bit mad.

plus different rika.

might be true, NGL.

JJK0 Rika is overall super underrated, considering that Kenjaku is considered insanely strong and he can get one shot by JJK0 Rika

 

[Arkenis]

wouldn't that mean he only tanked like a part of it though?


It does because he's not always outputting his full power, which is why he later clashes with an eye-opened Rika

In JJK0, Rika undergoing that form gave her a one-shot level amp

Yeah in JJK0 it gave her that, it was a binding vow, she doesn't still have it, JJK Rika is a different Rika. A more realistic reason is that Yuta's reinforcement just fluctuations and isn't always able to do 100%, especially after using rct several times, he's just getting lower and lower on ce

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Gojo's output in JJK0 ~ Miguel ~ Yuta
More of less
Low 7-C

 

[Arkenis]

Gojo's output in JJK0 ~ Miguel ~ Yuta
More of less
Low 7-C

Besides scaling, is there anything implying Gojo got stronger since jjk0?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Besides scaling, is there anything implying Gojo got stronger since jjk0?

Saying Gojo in JJK0 & Current Gojo scales same would just mess up the scaling chain.

Shinjuku Showdown Arc scaling goes like this more or less
Miguel ~ Weakened Sukuna ~ Yuta
Weakened Sukuna <<< Full power Sukuna ~ Gojo
JJk 0 Gojo was comparable to more or less to Miguel (I'm talking about physically). If JJK0 & Current Gojo was in same league it would like Yuta ~ Current Gojo.

 

[Woomica]

Besides scaling, is there anything implying Gojo got stronger since jjk0?

Said that he is the strongest and toyed with sukuna...so he must be the strongest after jjk0

 

[Arkenis]

Saying Gojo in JJK0 & Current Gojo scales same would just mess up the scaling chain.

Shinjuku Showdown Arc scaling goes like this more or less
Miguel ~ Weakened Sukuna ~ Yuta
Weakened Sukuna <<< Full power Sukuna ~ Gojo
JJk 0 Gojo was comparable to more or less to Miguel (I'm talking about physically). If JJK0 & Current Gojo was in same league it would like Yuta ~ Current Gojo.

But I'm asking, besides scaling is there anything implying Gojo got stronger since jjk0?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

But I'm asking is there anything implying Gojo got stronger since jjk0?

Yeah with some key points

• Geto was around 30% sure he could defeat Jujutsu high knowing Gojo was with them
• Gojo has to risk his life to take down JJK0 Rika
• Geto also states something about his chances becoming 99% if he had Rika to take our jujutsu high if I'm correct.

I know JJK0 was earlier project before current series but gege clearly had no intention of changing the scaling chain if take a look at this

Saying Gojo in JJK0 & Current Gojo scales same would just mess up the scaling chain.

Shinjuku Showdown Arc scaling goes like this more or less
Miguel ~ Weakened Sukuna ~ Yuta
Weakened Sukuna <<< Full power Sukuna ~ Gojo
JJk 0 Gojo was comparable to more or less to Miguel (I'm talking about physically). If JJK0 & Current Gojo was in same league it would like Yuta ~ Current Gojo.

Also Gojo talks about CE Reinforcements Miguel is around same level as him this was happening when he asked Miguel to teach Yuta so this is right after JJK0.

So there are few things from manga indicates Gojo gotten stronger.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Saying Gojo in JJK0 & Current Gojo scales same would just mess up the scaling chain.

No....

JJK0 Gojo isn't a thing. JJK0 Gojo = Current Gojo

Geto was around 30% sure he could defeat Jujutsu high knowing Gojo was with them

Him achieving his objective =/= defeating Gojo necessarily. He can wipe out humanity without killing Gojo first.

ALSO he said there was below a 20% chance, while with Rika it was 99%.

• Gojo has to risk his life to take down JJK0 Rika

SUPER out of context. He's glazing to appease the higher ups at the moment

Also Gojo talks about CE Reinforcements Miguel is around same level as him this was happening when he asked Miguel to teach Yuta so this is right after JJK0.

This applies to current Gojo

 

[M3X_2.0]

Nah

Gege saying he exaggerated in this scene will never not be hilarious

 

[Woomica]

Nah

First of many reason why i love maki

 

[Arkenis]

• Geto was around 30% sure he could defeat Jujutsu high knowing Gojo was with them
• Gojo has to risk his life to take down JJK0 Rika
• Geto also states something about his chances becoming 99% if he had Rika to take our jujutsu high if I'm correct.

I was thinking more narratively. Besides the risking life the rest is scaling.

 

[Arkenis]

SUPER out of context. He's glazing to appease the higher ups at the moment

Makes sense but what proves this?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I was thinking more narratively. Besides the risking life the rest is scaling.

Well Gojo saying Miguel is relative to him with CE reinforcements does narratively implies Current Gojo is stronger.

Like Miguel didn't wanted to smoke Sukuna until he was nerfed around Yuta's level and Miguel performance is nowhere near current Gojo's level.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Miguel's performance was actually very underwhelming.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Miguel's performance was actually very underwhelming.

The plan was for him to get his ass beat by Gojo for 12 minutes

Geto really had faith icl

 

[Arkenis]

Well Gojo saying Miguel is relative to him with CE reinforcements does narratively implies Current Gojo is stronger.

I don't know where relative comes from. Is this trans wrong or are you referring to something else?

 

[M3X_2.0]

The plan was for him to get his ass beat by Gojo for 12 minutes

Geto really had faith icl

Against Sukuna I mean.

 

[Arkenis]

Miguel's performance was actually very underwhelming.

Could've at least seen him tank Red or slightly react to Blue amp

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Against Sukuna I mean.

Well then Yuta had too much faith in this man lmao

He literally just styled on Sukuna and decided he wants to peace out

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Makes sense but what proves this?

If Rika was really ~ Gojo and Geto was ~ Gojo, then Kempnjaku could’ve shat on Gojo in the first week of having Geto’s body

Gojo telling the higher ups that what he’d put on the line would be his own life instead of sending other sorcerers to deal with Rika doesn’t mean Rika could beat Gojo in a fight.

also we know the lore about Jjk0 Gojo being the strongest still applies through guides.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Well then Yuta had too much faith in this man lmao

He literally just styled on Sukuna and decided he wants to peace out

Dude appeared, called Gojo a racist, made Gojo say he's equal to Miguel w/o his CT, beat Sukuna for a few seconds and got his ass out lol he's a chad

 

[Arkenis]

If Rika was really ~ Gojo and Geto was ~ Gojo, then Kempnjaku could’ve shat on Gojo in the first week of having Geto’s body

Gojo telling the higher ups that what he’d put on the line would be his own life instead of sending other sorcerers to deal with Rika doesn’t mean Rika could beat Gojo in a fight.

also we know the lore about Jjk0 Gojo being the strongest still applies through guides.

I'm just asking what stated he was just praising them? All you're really talking about is scaling.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

I'm just asking what stated he was just praising them? All you're really talking about is scaling.

No but that’s what he’s doing in context

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I don't know where relative comes from. Is this trans wrong or are you referring to something else?

I don't think it's speed alone. Gojo was beating down Miguel to pulp still we don't see an injuries from that guy.
Gojo also talks about physicals Overall

 

[Arkenis]

No but that’s what he’s doing in context

Yeah what tells us that through the story? Like where's it implied he's "glazing to appease the higher ups at the moment".