You don't get it. If it was about them being equal in strength and speed and dura, then Miguel would smoke Sukuna in one shot lmao. But obviously he isn't. And that's also not what the raws say, which Lightning the best translator in JJK community explains. Reread man.
My “switch up” is exaggerated because I never agree with half of his positions. Like we debated for a long time Naobito vs Ogi and he maintained for a long time that Ogi should be = Naobito and > Naoya
Prove that
Is that why the manga now disagrees with you?
I do? please show me saying that!!!
We debated it once and when you showed the official statement of Ogi's statement being wrong I dropped it and said "fair enough"
now we thinking heavily nerfed Sukuna with less than 10F reserves is tanking a hit from a CT buffed miguel who's base stats are supposedly 20F? Be serious please.
What ap feats are we even talking about? Scaling? Sure. Here's one
If Sukuna has less than 10F CE reserves then the output he can generate would only amount to 10F level Sukuna or 9F. he sucks. Keep in the mind that this was couple of chapters back, as time went on after that statement, he kept using more of his ce, whether it be world slash, large amount of dismantle in one go, RCT which uses double of your ce or whatever, etc. He has used rct so many times since then. Sukuna 9F level (keep in mind it is stated that his output is heavily ass, and he still has various other wounds that nerf him too ontop of all these things I mentioned about Sukuna's state) is tanking Miguel's CT amped hits who is >= Normal Gojo who is >>>>>> Domain Amped 20F Sukuna? Be serious please.
It doesn’t disagree because it is still an anti feat for basically every other sorcerer in the series
That is severely underselling it. You kept on saying it was death of the author or something and refused to change your tier list
You're misquoting him lmao
It doesn't go against anything, if Gojo isn't reliable in CE manipulation, then no one in the series is, not even Sukuna can manipulate CE on the level of the 6eyes, you will need to provide evidence with at least equal authority to Gojo to prove that Gojo is just lying there/doesn't have a clue about what's he's talking about.
so you fully concede on it being an anti-feat for Gojo? Thank youuuuuuu
Gojo without blue has no stat scaling like that
this is unconfirmed headcanon
No cursed technique Gojo has no Ap scaling
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He has scaling to Sukuna even without blue, why are you ignoring his feats of still keeping up with a domain buffed Sukuna without blue and whilst impeded by constant RCT usage?
Although you are a known sophist / person who participates in sophistry and motivated reasoner, you defend the takes such as Gojo being universal and FTL any time someone disagrees with you on it
He never damaged that Sukuna without using a cursed technique
Because I debated a topic on discord I'm suddenly stuck holding that belief for life and can't have any valid opinion outside of it anymore? Just admit you're pivoting to avoid the fact I was right about black flash and you was wrong, idk why you need to bring up old debates on completely separate topics to try and slander my credibility instead of engaging with my present arguments - you're unironically the most disingenuous person in this thread by far and it's embarrassing watching you struggling to keep up with conversations sometimes.
In the scan I literally show you Gojo breaking Sukuna's guard and sending him backwards + Sukuna acknowledging how impressive Gojo's combat ability is even without blue. How is your response to that just "nuh uh"?
Gojo isn't in the quote there. u hallucinating bro.
you're just repeating yourself, when I just explained to you why he does have scaling. Rosa also showed the evidence, and extra more.
He said he moves well, and this is the same Sukuna that’s holding back
You say this like we know it scales to the percentage of cursed energy each finger gives access to
He wasn't holding back
ye holding back in techniques. we know this. that doesn't mean the output of his domain and the buff it gives him is gone now when he's trying to kill gojo.
This is not embarrassing, Heian era Sukuna is just stronger than Gojo. The only problem is Yorozu ~ Heian Sukuna, but Ryu’s max output is 100% stronger than Heian Sukuna and Gojo w/o a cursed technique
Any proof he's holding back his stats and not just his cursed technique via utilising Mahoraga instead (like what's stated several times)? Even if I accept that Sukuna held back his stats on Gojo in the fight, any proof Sukuna is holding back MORE than normal during these interactions to refute there being relativity between blue amped Gojo and no-CT Gojo?
You never said "Gojo without a CT", but even then the take is still completely unfounded and absurd.
20 fingers is full power Sukuna. He already had 19F, and then got the corpse allowing him to reach his peak. If he loses one of his fingers, his maximum output goes down. If Sukuna loses more than double of his 20F ce reserves, do you think he can still output 20F level of ce?
Heian Era Sukuna gets mid diffed by gojo at worst, and low diffed at best. He doesn't have the overwhelming advantage of knowledge over Gojo, nor does he have a extra ct to rely on, alongside a mini meatshield for that other ct. Next.
Because it doesn’t apply to things like red or purple who’s strength comes from different things
He has access to the body which is the greatest advantage a sorcerer can have, two cursed tools, and non held back techniques which he could’ve used on Gojo to beat him without the ten shadows
How does it bypass infinity?
How does it bypass infinity?
How does it bypass infinity?
Non held back domain / whatever Gojo was referring to
Did you read the manga? He makes a racist statement in which he implies that the physiques and muscles of people from Africa + cursed energy reinforcement are far better than sorcerers in Japan, where such physiques and muscles are extremely rare. Aka their combat is based upon CE reinforcement and the base of muscle / physique
Yes for incantations and hand signs. Which are useless to doing anything against Gojo. please use something better. if it is the 4 arms argument then cool. Unfortunately he gets dogged by gojo in skill. and Gojo had a 3vs1 fight where Agito and Maho kept ganging up on him, with his infinity for the most of the time if not almost all of the time, kept down due to their coordination, with Sukuna especially sneaking around. 4 arms against gojo does little to help.
One that is trash. 15F Nue has a much much better lightning than mid Kamutoke
what will that tool do against gojo when he can't even use it with DA on? And he can't interact with gojo without DA on. the ct in the tool will be disabled if he uses DA 
so trash. and the other one is unknown with nothing about it. please stop using unknown tools. what he held back was true form, like it was stated. but we know that's practically useless against gojo. is that it?
so useless. if u think otherwise then welcome to gojo taking on Malevolent shrine full onslaught from cleave and dismantle.
"I have no clue how it would work, just whatever Gojo was referring to, Sukuna stomps Gojo"
and Miguel said he was wrong, we using racist stereotypes to upscale your favs now???
The implication of your arguments is just Gojo is dumb as hell then, which doesn’t make sensestated. but we know that's practically useless against gojo. is that it?
oh right, i remember now. fire arrow. that's also trash when gojo's infinity prevents it from hitting him. and gojo can also easily sense the ce spark coming, and quickly stop Sukuna from using it. Or simply just dodge... Or use red and disrupt it. Or teleport away. Even if used in domain, where gojo's infinity was down, which Sukuna very pointedly did not use it despite the fact that it belongs to his own CT. It wouldn't even one shot gojo, let alone incapacitate him. All it would do is cause second degree burns at best
Miguel said he was wrong because he was generalizing african people, that was the racist part…
Gojo says muscle mass and physique like the one Miguel has. Not like the one Sukuna has. They're mutually different. Secondly, the context of that isn't about pure physical stats there, it was about skill and how X body type plays a role in displaying those skills.
"Sukuna beats Gojo with his own CT"
You're stretching it.
