no we just talking about the fact that Sukuna has techniques that he has hidden for the purpose of the fact that they're useless unbeknownst to Gojo. What was revealed to us, was Heian true form.
Honestly Gojo was just praising a rival, likely swept up in his defeat he viewed Sukuna as a greater sorcerer than he is compared to himself. Gege just let the Sukucock get to his head
both were being humble and praising each other anyways in ch236. though gojo could also be saying this because he might have thought that sukuna could use WS all along or something. although transformation and fire arrow holds more credibility than this.
What’s crazier is the reason Kusakabe thinks the arrow is impressive is it’s capable of exorcizing Jogo in one shot, so current Kusakabe isn’t capable of doing the same
Certainly an interpretation.
I mean yeah, but he literally sees Sukuna use other Shikigami CT. and then sees Mahoraga use Sukuna's slash, with expanded target. Which is Sukuna's own slash. So like, can you really say he held back there when Sukuna copied it?Kusakabe: What’s frightening is he hasn’t used that fire arrow from Shibuya!
World Slash:
He only heard it after the chat in his innate domain(?). and no sukuna didn't see it. otherwise he would have been in it.
Nah he didn't really talk like that.
That’s mostly what Greg meant with that statement.
Dork gets blitzed and destroyed by slashes that can harm Sukuna.
Why would Dagon be a problem?
Where’s the “haha” reaction emote when you need it the most
No really look at this. Doesn’t make any sense. At all.
So you think Jogo could react to the simple domain amped slashes? Stop it. Lets just accept Sukuna met the strongest first grade and had no counter!
It's not semantics; Guac is using the very specific wording of "considering it has enough power to kill Jogo, we'd be toast" to infer that Kusakabe < Jogo, however such meaning isn't present in the text at all as Kusakabe is simply saying the attack is concerning due to how casually it can kill special grades such as Jogo - meaning even if Kusakabe > Jogo it'll still make sense for Kusakabe to be worrisome.
He tanked Red!
Your translations are consistently unreliable, and there's two translations which say the same thing
Yep, your translation was severely flawed and so was your text extraction, as usual.
Of course the debater speak for no reason. Kusakabe is just 2034081841027310124973217419087432x stronger and faster than Jogo now. He became stronger than Nanami in AP and faster than Naobito for sure
He's having fun by relishing in the combat and not going all out.
What's your basis for saying this?
As I explained twice, that doesn't infer Jogo > Kusakabe in durability, nice try tho!
Sukuna already knows he’s the strongest, he has no reason to flex and destroy his entertainment like that. He consciously likes holding back his abilities to fight the best a sorcerer can show him. This is why when he fights Higuruma, he waits and lets him try rct, this is why he lets Kusakabe try everything he’s got, why he actively went the riskier route in his fight with Gojo. The man is just having fun in his second life and wants a challenge the best way he can.
It literally just does mean that Jogo holds relevance.
It's legit just like the Ryu example, where the Werry, TCB, and my own expert translator both agreed that it was saying Ryu > Current Yuta in durability, and you're still like
Notice how this isn't at all relevant to any of my arguments? I find it funny how Guac constantly jumps into debate topics just badmouthing me and refuses to listen to me, at this point it's just borderline toxic and you should just stop.
Yes, but Jogo holding relevance isn't the same thing as Jogo being ABOVE Kusakabe in durability or that Jogo would beat Kusakabe and make 20F Sukuna struggle in combat, which is what you claimed initially. This is a classic motte and bailey fallacy; you posit this obviously absurd claim and then when given pushback you retreat to this more reasonable claim whilst misconstruing the other person as attacking the more reasonable claim - stop being dishonest.
wtf are you on about? No one's talking about chatgpt. Whenever I get into translation disputes I always say we can break down the phrasing and discuss where the meaning is being extracted from to see if it's founded, I have never made these broad appeals to authority (unlike you) as the basis for my conclusions.
what's up with this smearing constantly. chill out with it if ur gonna tackle someone's argument.
he does it constantly, even if I make a thread on here he's joined it in the past just to say "don't listen to this motivated reasoner, he believes x and y" where he pivots to topics irrelevant to the thread to just try discredit me, and now he's even made a copy-pasta of lies about me to spam that. Genuinely might just report the guy for toxicity and harassment atp
No? He's literally had a month to prep, he should know and be informed on Jogo's power. Even if he didn't, he's been there to sense Jogo directly, so it makes sense that he understands Jogo's power.
Why would he be "informed" on Jogo's power when he's training to fight Sukuna?
How do you think "sensing" works in JJK? Besides Gojo, there's never been an instance where a person can sense another's exact individual stats, CE output, and CT, hence why binding vows involving the reveal of these things are so significant and why characters characters have to discover such facts during combat. Kusakabe only saw his maximum meteor, that's his basis.
Then defend that instead of retelling a more tame position and acting as though that's what I'm challenging.
It's not because what I held from the start is that Jogo would for example beat Kusakabe, AKA he would hold relevance.
"Hey we're trying to beat Sukuna"
Jogo could one shot Kusakabe with the maximum meteor itself
Eh its pretty clear they can differentiate between special grade curses and not special grade. Kusakabe also determines the power of the random sorcerers he and Panda were faced with and preferred fighting them as well. So he definitely has good senses for power. But still why would they even tell him in depth about Jogo? The only one who fought him was Gojo and Gojo explaining how strong someone is just isn’t going to make sense with the power difference anyway
No? Maki, Naobito, and Nanami did and they got almost instantly dispatched by a casual Jogo. I maintain it makes sense for them to say Jogo's power, and discuss something this relevant.
