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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Guacamolefletcher said:
It's not because what I held from the start is that Jogo would for example beat Kusakabe, AKA he would hold relevance.
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Holding relevance != being superior to
Guacamolefletcher said:
"Hey we're trying to beat Sukuna"
"Ok, so how does Sukuna fight, or what does he do"
"He's used this fire arrow before, super powerful"
"Oh, interesting. I don't actually care how powerful that is though, just give me a basic rundown because it's not relevant."
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The only people who witnessed the fire arrow would be Kusakabe, Panda, and Yuji; none of those people know how strong Jogo is.
Guacamolefletcher said:
Jogo could one shot Kusakabe with the maximum meteor itself
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If it hit, yes. How would he get it to hit Kusakabe before SD?
Arkenis said:
Eh its pretty clear they can differentiate between special grade curses and not special grade. Kusakabe also determines the power of the random sorcerers he and Panda were faced with and preferred fighting them as well. So he definitely has good senses for power.
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We know sorcerers can feel the amount of cursed energy a person has, which correlates with power, and this actually helps my case given Jogo is noted to have a vast pool of CE (which we can infer is something he can't fully utilise in his stats) and so Kusakabe was likely sensing that also.
Guacamolefletcher said:
No? Maki, Naobito, and Nanami did and they got almost instantly dispatched by a casual Jogo.
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Naobito and Nanami are dead, they aren't going to be doing much talking, and Maki was blitzed before she even got a good look at him and she specifically can't sense cursed energy.
Guacamolefletcher said:
I maintain it makes sense for them to say Jogo's power, and discuss something this relevant.
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What feats does Jogo have to suggest this? He has anti-feats suggesting he'd be severely damaged by GWE Todo and Yuji, people we know aren't significant to current characters.
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
No? Maki, Naobito, and Nanami did and they got almost instantly dispatched by a casual Jogo. I maintain it makes sense for them to say Jogo's power, and discuss something this relevant.
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They didn’t fight him? Are you kidding me? Three fatigued sorcerers, one missing an arm and you call what he did a fight? Please reread the entire manga cause what? Also Kusakabe is the strongest first grade sorcerer, do not compare him to those randoms
 
Since we’re talking stats Kusakabe’s the same guy dodging/reacting to Sukuna’s slashes, lets maintain Jogo’s never touching Kusakabe especially not when simple domain weakens the ct too
 
Arkenis said:
They didn’t fight him? Are you kidding me? Three fatigued sorcerers, one missing an arm and you call what he did a fight? Please reread the entire manga cause what? Also Kusakabe is the strongest first grade sorcerer, do not compare him to those randoms
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Kusakabe has less raw power than Nanami who has less raw power than Naobito. All 3 sorcerers there deem Jogo to be in a different level to Domain Dagon, and it's immediately apparent to them.
 
Arkenis said:
Okay debunking tier 2 Naruto which has more going for it but arguing Uni Gojo is wild
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you're not seeing the vision of saying Sukuna no diffs the Naruto verse in a room full of "Danzo is uni+ and base Naruto is multi+ with MFTL++++ speed by the war arc"

the tactic is just pointing how only JJK has an explicit mention of a 4th dimensional space existing, never Naruto :D
 
Rosa said:
we used to be on the same team when it came to debunking tier 2 Naruto in CSAP, what happened to us?! @Guacamolefletcher
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Me and Rosa before debating JJK:

Me and Rosa after:


you're not seeing the vision of saying Sukuna no diffs the Naruto verse in a room full of "Danzo is uni+ and base Naruto is multi+ with MFTL++++ speed by the war arc"
the tactic is just pointing how only JJK has an explicit mention of a 4th dimensional space existing, never Naruto :D
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Yeah NGL the Naruto wank we were surrounded by was so absurd, it's insane. We were debating people who thought Naruto was f*cking 2-A and MFTL+ because of some Hagoromo wank and pocket space-times
 
Rosa said:
you're not seeing the vision of saying Sukuna no diffs the Naruto verse in a room full of "Danzo is uni+ and base Naruto is multi+ with MFTL++++ speed by the war arc"
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I mean you're scaling on CSAP what did you expect? 😭
 
Rosa said:
I remember when that certain infamous csap mod said "1-A Naruto isn't actually that insane, it's got some supporting evidence" and "what if planets in Naruto are just uni+"
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Adult Goku from OG DB solos both verses in the end, both JJK and Naruto
 
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TheGunsFinalWrath said:
yip yap going around here, let's discuss something better
(@Thebannanaworkshop ima steal yo idea bitch 😂👌💯)

Top 3 endurance feats in JJK, go. Make yo list. (This isn't "stats" type of thing)
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Gojo full throttle Rct
Maki fighting with her intestines hanging out
Nanami fighting numerous curses/trans humans with half his body burned to the bone
 
Arkenis said:
Gojo full throttle Rct
Maki fighting with her intestines hanging out
Nanami fighting numerous curses/trans humans with half his body burned to the bone
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Huh, I expected something like this:
"1.Sukuna tanking Yujis soul punches+ Angel CT+ SSK stab whilst being brain damaged and still not being pressed. 2.Gojo getting up 5 seconds later after literally tearing his own brain apart(he prolly felt more brain damage than sukuna). 3.Mahito getting his soul killed down to 40%, taking 2 Black flashes offguard one being post domain, and laughing off the combined damage of allat at once"
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not mine but just saying. Speaking of full throttle rct, in first domain battle gojo is fully experiencing Malevolent Shrine, and at some point, is destroying part of his brain and regenerating it, under those Slashes. that would be easily top 3 imo. But given how gojo reaching his limits with the side effects in chapter 230 easily made him go down on his knees and start heaving... that one seems like it's far more painful. Though he did take it like a champ, and get up several seconds later after going down, and start shit-talking Sukuna and punch him in.
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
yip yap going around here, let's discuss something better
(@Thebannanaworkshop ima steal yo idea bitch 😂👌💯)

Top 3 endurance feats in JJK, go. Make yo list. (This isn't "stats" type of thing)
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1. Gojo (Fought Toji with a stab wound in the chest and several days of fatigue, fought Sukuna whilst his CT is burnt out, has RCT at full throttle, being slashed all over, having limbs chopped off, and with his brain drowning in its own blood)
2. Yuki (Fought Kenjaku whilst her limbs were distorted and mangled and her body was crushed to the point of constant bleeding all over)
3. Yuji (Fought a finger bearer with his arm chopped arm, fights at 10% health, constantly runs through fatal attacks just to land hits (Sukuna), and forces his body to continue fighting even with massive amounts of internal bleeding)
 
"1.Sukuna tanking Yujis soul punches+ Angel CT+ SSK stab whilst being brain damaged and still not being pressed. 2.Gojo getting up 5 seconds later after literally tearing his own brain apart(he prolly felt more brain damage than sukuna). 3.Mahito getting his soul killed down to 40%, taking 2 Black flashes offguard one being post domain, and laughing off the combined damage of allat at once"
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Feel like 1 and 2 is just survivability more than endurance. Sukuna is enduring stuff others could like those punches Mahito could take those, Jacob’s ladder doesn’t seem to take a lot to withstand, and the stab is something that I see Kenjaku, Yuta, Hakari, Gojo, and Yuji enduring. Even all of that together it doesn’t seem that big. And Mahito’s isn’t that crazy either, those bf aren’t messing up his soul either.

Maki’s feat is incredible because she’s has no means of healing that like rct so she’s literally just combating numerous semi or first grades with loss of blood and an open stomach.
 
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